Joel Garry said:
> "Obnoxio The Clown" <obnoxio@serendipita.com> wrote in message
> news:<cac24q$6mn$1@news.xmission.com>...
>> Daniel Morgan said:
>>
>> > The reason Oracle doesn't concentrate on OS/390, if that is the case,
>> > might also relate to the difficulty of selling into a marketshare very
>> > carefully managed by IBM.
>>
>> Jesus, Daniel, why don't you blame IBM for the ebola virus as well,
>> while
>> you're at it?
>>
>> I'd like to point out that companies like Compuware, BMC and Computer
>> Associates do exceptionally well in the "carefully managed" IBM
>> mainframe
>> market. Could it possibly be that either Oracle doesn't grok the
>> mainframe
>> market or sees it as different to core business and so doesn't work as
>> hard on it? Or maybe something else? Does it *have* to be nasty IBM's
>
> Maybe it's because the founders of all those companies used to work
> for IBM?
> http://www.compuware.com/corporate/793_ENG_HTML.htm
> http://www.bmc.com/BMC/Common/CDA/ho...128252,00.html
> http://www.ca.com/about/history.htm

Actually, I seem to recall that Larry had some sort of job cutting code
for mainframes as well, but he got out of it because he thought Unix was a
coming thing. Could it be as simple as that...? Nahh...

>> fault that Oracle doesn't have big marketshare in the mainframe database
>> as well? Is it not remotely possible that Oracle cannot or will not
>> commit
>> to the market? Have you considered that it could be entirely or largely
>> Oracle's own responsibility to try and compete in a given market.
>
> Yes, it could very well be Larry doesn't see competing directly on the
> platform as a growth market, versus growing competing platforms.
>
>>
>> Sure, IBM does stuff we don't agree with. So does every other company
>> that
>> walks the earth. Get over it.
>
> We can make a difference, sometimes with as little as letting them
> know it is an issue. Other times by letting the gummint have it's way
> with them.

Yeah, I'm sure Sam Parmagiano reads CDI all the time to find out how he
should run IBM and what he's doing wrong.

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