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Old 04-20-2008, 03:20 PM
Martin Fuerderer
 
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Default Re: Out of Box Experience for Cheetah.

OTC wrote on 17.03.2007 16:25:19:
>
> Tool said:
> > If the assumption is to install on Linux, then one could simply walk
> > through
> > the boot up messages, such as what dmesg puts out, parse CPU

information,
> > or
> > also parse /proc/cpuinfo or /proc/meminfo, etc. These information

sources
> > are
> > relatively easy to find on Linux, however, it doesn't address other
> > unix-type
> > platforms, or Windows.

>
> Yes, it would be fairly easy to do with Linux, probably also easy but
> different with (each different flavour of) Unix and possibly even easy

but
> different again with Windoze.
>
> That's why, as a first approximation, I'd suggest a handful of

half-decent
> options, it's easier than trying to suss every possible platform
> accurately.
>
> > Might want a combination of a recommended choice based on your system

or
> > choose from a list.
> >
> > -t-
> >
> > Obnoxio The Clown wrote:
> >> DL Redden said:
> >>> Wouldn't it be nice if the installer was smart enough to sniff out

the
> >>> machine info and suggest a reasonable list of configurations to

choose
> >>> from based on the machine size. That would be most useful for

getting
> >>> started right out of the box.
> >>
> >> Although it's possible to write something that probed a box's config,

it
> >> would be a lot of very platform-specific maintenance. Maybe we could
> >> write
> >> something on a GPL basis as a community with designated maintenance
> >> teams
> >> for each supported platform ... ?
> >>


Looking at this (and similar issues) from a different angle ...:

As a professional at work (in my profession that is) I want control.
And many options, parameters, etc. provide a lot of control (assuming
they work . That is control for the professional who knows what he
is doing. Ideally the stuff works somehow automatically-magically with
some default settings, so it would work for those that "do not
(exactly) know what they are doing". But I would not expect that it
works optimally for my needs. And there's nothing more annoying than
some "system" (often software) that "thinks" it knows better than
myself what I want. Such behaviour really puts me off!

A database system like IDS is a very complex system. Why is there
the expectation that such systems should work optimally in all sorts
of disparate scenarios?

Nobody expects that the average passenger can fly a Boing 767 in a
safe way. There's tangible hardware, and generally wide acceptance
that "touching earth the wrong way" is a disaster.

But with highly complex software systems? People expect an
out-of-the-box installation on any chosen hardware in any chosen
infrastructure, and of course it should scale very well for 1 user
just developing something up to thousands of users running complex
queries. And, please, all this without having to configure anything.

My guess is, such expectations prevail because there is no tangible
hardware. Nothing to really see ... so it must be easy.
But I'm sure there must be a more profound way to explain this
interesting phenomen that again and again astonishes me since many
years.

Cheers,
Martin
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