Hi,

I just realised I have dial up all around Australia, so want to take
advantage of this.
So, my laptop has a win modem in side it. So can anyone tell me a brand
and model to look for on ebay, so I can get a cheap 56 k modem that will
work with linux?

After that I think I know how to configure it, I found a page on it...
I just want to make sure I don't get one of those stupid win modems... I
know there is linmodem, but it seems I have to pay for the driver, and I
believe all software on my linux box should be free...

And... it seems easier just to get a proper modem.
Should I be getting a modem that connects to the serial port?
So can anyone help me on this one?

Thanks,

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On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:30:45 +1000
Daniel Dalton <d.dalton@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just realised I have dial up all around Australia, so want to take
> advantage of this.
> So, my laptop has a win modem in side it. So can anyone tell me a brand
> and model to look for on ebay, so I can get a cheap 56 k modem that will
> work with linux?

There were some list messages about this recently. I recommend
checking Ebay, which seems to have plenty of inexpensive hardware
modems available. I bought a 16 bit PC card Xircom which has been
working perfectly, with no drivers other than the basic in kernel
modules necessary. See this list [in particular, the section "Modem
and serial cards"]: http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/SUPPORTED.CARDS

> After that I think I know how to configure it, I found a page on it...
> I just want to make sure I don't get one of those stupid win modems... I
> know there is linmodem, but it seems I have to pay for the driver, and I
> believe all software on my linux box should be free...

If you get a hardware modem, no special configuration of the modem
should be necessary. Just point your apps to the appropriate serial
port, and you'll be good to go.

> Daniel Dalton

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On 07/01/2008 05:30 PM, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just realised I have dial up all around Australia, so want to take
> advantage of this.
> So, my laptop has a win modem in side it. [...]

Go to http://www.Linmodems.org/ ; they have a scanModem tool that can
help you find drivers for it ; I was able to get my "linmodem" working
with that website's help and without paying for any proprietary drivers.

However, I am using an external serial hardware modem now because it
*is* both better and far easier to set up. Try Ebay:

http://search.ebay.com/hardware-mode...dsreturnedZ300
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lucent-Venus-Chi...QQcmdZViewItem

Now that wasn't so hard, was it?


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On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 07:16:00PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/Lucent-Venus-Chi...QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Now that wasn't so hard, was it?

No, I know how to do an ebay search, I was just asking if anyone new of
a well supported modem by linux and one that was definitely not a win
modem.

And also, I looked at linmodem's site, but... can you use the standard
tools with a linmodem as you would with a non-win modem?

Thanks,

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On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 08:30 +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote:

> I just realised I have dial up all around Australia, so want to take
> advantage of this.
> So, my laptop has a win modem in side it. So can anyone tell me a brand
> and model to look for on ebay, so I can get a cheap 56 k modem that will
> work with linux?

If it connects to a serial port, it works in Linux.

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On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 09:44:34PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 08:30 +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote:
>
> > I just realised I have dial up all around Australia, so want to take
> > advantage of this.
> > So, my laptop has a win modem in side it. So can anyone tell me a brand
> > and model to look for on ebay, so I can get a cheap 56 k modem that will
> > work with linux?
>
> If it connects to a serial port, it works in Linux.

So what your basically saying is there is no such thing as a serial win
modem?

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On 07/01/2008 08:55 PM, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> [...]
> And also, I looked at linmodem's site, but... can you use the standard
> tools with a linmodem as you would with a non-win modem?
>
> Thanks,
>

A short answer would probably be "no," but it depends upon what you mean
by standard tools.

My modem requires both low-level and high-level drivers. The low-level
driver is in the current kernel, but the high-level driver had to be
gotten online.

Once both drivers are loaded, I can access my modem using minicom, or
dial out using pppd/chat or wvdial.


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On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:47 +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 09:44:34PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 08:30 +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> >
> > > I just realised I have dial up all around Australia, so want to take
> > > advantage of this.
> > > So, my laptop has a win modem in side it. So can anyone tell me a brand
> > > and model to look for on ebay, so I can get a cheap 56 k modem that will
> > > work with linux?
> >
> > If it connects to a serial port, it works in Linux.
>
> So what your basically saying is there is no such thing as a serial win
> modem?

Exactly. An external win-modem brings visions of the Disney Sound
Source with an RJ-11 jack instead of a headphone jack for output...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Sound_Source

If it's smart enough to handle a serial port, it's smart enough to
actually modulate and demodulate on it's own.

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On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 08:30:45AM +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> I just realised I have dial up all around Australia, so want to take
> advantage of this.
> So, my laptop has a win modem in side it. So can anyone tell me a brand
> and model to look for on ebay, so I can get a cheap 56 k modem that will
> work with linux?
>
> After that I think I know how to configure it, I found a page on it...
> I just want to make sure I don't get one of those stupid win modems... I
> know there is linmodem, but it seems I have to pay for the driver, and I
> believe all software on my linux box should be free...
>
> And... it seems easier just to get a proper modem.
> Should I be getting a modem that connects to the serial port?
> So can anyone help me on this one?

The gold-standard in modems is the 3Com/US Robotics Courier
V-Everything. It works with a serial port and requires no drivers. It
also does great on noisy lines. I purchased mine off eBay for $49.

3Com/USR also makes the Sportster which is less functional and cheaper
when new (the courier new is about $400).

Doug.


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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 08:30:45AM +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote:
>> I just realised I have dial up all around Australia, so want to take
>> advantage of this.
>> So, my laptop has a win modem in side it. So can anyone tell me a brand
>> and model to look for on ebay, so I can get a cheap 56 k modem that will
>> work with linux?
>>
>> After that I think I know how to configure it, I found a page on it...
>> I just want to make sure I don't get one of those stupid win modems... I
>> know there is linmodem, but it seems I have to pay for the driver, and I
>> believe all software on my linux box should be free...
>>
>> And... it seems easier just to get a proper modem.
>> Should I be getting a modem that connects to the serial port?
>> So can anyone help me on this one?
>
> The gold-standard in modems is the 3Com/US Robotics Courier
> V-Everything. It works with a serial port and requires no drivers. It
> also does great on noisy lines. I purchased mine off eBay for $49.


What's the model number of that?

Hugo


>
> 3Com/USR also makes the Sportster which is less functional and cheaper
> when new (the courier new is about $400).


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