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This distribution (woody) seems to have ancient versions of packages in it?
Are there updates to bring it somewhere into the last 2 years or so?
If so where do they live?

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Bjarne Oftedahl
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Bjarne Oftedahl wrote:

> This distribution (woody) seems to have ancient versions of packages in
> it? Are there updates to bring it somewhere into the last 2 years or so?
> If so where do they live?
>

Woody is the oldest of the currently active Debian versions.

Sarge and Sid are as current as any other distro.

Bjarne Oftedahl wrote:

> This distribution (woody) seems to have ancient versions of packages in
> it? Are there updates to bring it somewhere into the last 2 years or so?
> If so where do they live?
>

Debian has three main repositories for packages. They are stable/woody
(which has the ancient versions you're seeing), testing and unstable. If
you edit /etc/apt/sources.list, replacing the references to woody (or
stable) with testing, save it and do apt-get update, you'll have access to
newer packages. Apt-get upgrade will give you a big list of replacements.
If you want even newer you can go to unstable, which is a little more risky
but not that bad.

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:11:43 -0400,
Bjarne Oftedahl <viking1293@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This distribution (woody) seems to have ancient versions of packages
> in it? Are there updates to bring it somewhere into the last 2 years
> or so? If so where do they live?
>


Debian stable (currently woody) is intended for use in situations where
stability of packages is important, not stability in the sense of not
crashing, that's allways important. But stability in the sense of not
changing if it doesn't have to. It's very popular with servers for that
reason, you don't want to go changing stuff on a server on a weekly
basis if you can avoid it.

If you want more cutting edge stuff, either switch to testing or
unstable (Sarge, and Sid respectively) or try another distro, even a
Debian related one like Ubuntu.


You can use backports if you only want a couple of more cutting edge
packages, but if you need more than a couple, you are better off
switching to testing, Sid, or something like Kanotix.


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On Sunday 31 October, Bjarne Oftedahl wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:

> This distribution (woody) seems to have ancient versions of packages
> in it? Are there updates to bring it somewhere into the last 2
> years or so? If so where do they live?

Sarge is due to replace Woody as the stable version "when it's ready",
which may be before the end of the year if we're lucky.

Meanwhile, upgrading from "stable" to "testing" might give you
packages that are recent enough for you.

<http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-woody.en.html>

In the above instructions, instead of

# apt-get update

you *may* need to use

# apt-get -o APT::Cache-Limit=16777216 update

but I think this may be a problem only in the earliest release of
Debian 3.0, which is the one I used.

You can also get CDs of Sarge.

If you want the latest of everything, you may prefer "unstable", alias
"Sid", but be prepared for the possibility that something important
will break occasionally.

PJR :-)
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 04:37:05 +0000,
Peter J Ross <gadfly@NOSPAMmeow.org> wrote:
> On Sunday 31 October, Bjarne Oftedahl wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
>
>> This distribution (woody) seems to have ancient versions of packages
>> in it? Are there updates to bring it somewhere into the last 2
>> years or so? If so where do they live?
>
> Sarge is due to replace Woody as the stable version "when it's ready",
> which may be before the end of the year if we're lucky.
>
> Meanwhile, upgrading from "stable" to "testing" might give you
> packages that are recent enough for you.
>
><http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-woody.en.html>
>
> In the above instructions, instead of
>
> # apt-get update
>
> you *may* need to use
>
> # apt-get -o APT::Cache-Limit=16777216 update
>
> but I think this may be a problem only in the earliest release of
> Debian 3.0, which is the one I used.
>
> You can also get CDs of Sarge.
>
> If you want the latest of everything, you may prefer "unstable", alias
> "Sid", but be prepared for the possibility that something important
> will break occasionally.
>
> PJR :-)


I use Sid on this laptop, and the only problems to date, have been the
occasional out of sync upgrades of mozilla, and a couple of like apps.
Once, mozilla was upgraded, but phoenix (now firefox) wasn't ready at
the time, so I had to switch to Mozilla for a couple of days, or go back
to the earlier version of mozilla for phoenix compatibility. That's
about it. I have had more problems with XP barfing over itself than Sid


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Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
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is lower than those of other principal female opera singers?
A: A deep C diva.

Bjarne Oftedahl wrote:

> This distribution (woody) seems to have ancient versions of packages in
> it? Are there updates to bring it somewhere into the last 2 years or so?
> If so where do they live?
>

Debian's claim isn't the bleeding edge latest software, it is the guarantee
that Debian is 100% GPL and free, and that it is stable, with no known
bugs. IF you want bleeding edge then try Sarge.
-
GreyGeek

Jim Richardson wrote:
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> On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:11:43 -0400,
> Bjarne Oftedahl <viking1293@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>This distribution (woody) seems to have ancient versions of packages
>>in it? Are there updates to bring it somewhere into the last 2 years
>>or so? If so where do they live?
>>
>
>
>
> Debian stable (currently woody) is intended for use in situations where
> stability of packages is important, not stability in the sense of not
> crashing, that's allways important. But stability in the sense of not
> changing if it doesn't have to. It's very popular with servers for that
> reason, you don't want to go changing stuff on a server on a weekly
> basis if you can avoid it.
>
> If you want more cutting edge stuff, either switch to testing or
> unstable (Sarge, and Sid respectively) or try another distro, even a
> Debian related one like Ubuntu.
>
>
> You can use backports if you only want a couple of more cutting edge
> packages, but if you need more than a couple, you are better off
> switching to testing, Sid, or something like Kanotix.
>
>


I like Mepis


-A

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On 2004-12-30, Andrew <yogig@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jim Richardson wrote:
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>> On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:11:43 -0400,
>> Bjarne Oftedahl <viking1293@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>This distribution (woody) seems to have ancient versions of packages
>>>in it? Are there updates to bring it somewhere into the last 2 years
>>>or so? If so where do they live?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Debian stable (currently woody) is intended for use in situations where

Don't like Woody? Then use Sarge.

A test version of Debian is as solid as the production version of
anything else.

End of discussion.

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