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Jens-Olaf Lindermann wrote:
> John F. Morse wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
>> Have you tried to reconfigure Exim with sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
>>
>
> I have reconfigured it.
> 1. split in multiple files
> 2. SMTP and smarthost (fetchmail),
> 3. E-Mail-Name of my system: Name of my machine
> 4. IP 127.0.0.1
> 5. further domains: name of my machine
> 6. relay: empty
> 7. smtp.mailserver.org:25
> 8. Hide local E-Mail-Name: Yes
> 9. visible name: mailserver.org
> 10.minimize DNS: Yes
> 11.mbox /var/mail/
>
> And I have also configured the client-section of my template-file in confd/.
>


Where is this confd file? I can't locate it on my Debian Etch boxes.


>> Also check your /etc/aliases file to make sure it is correct because
>> Exim uses it.
>>
>
> must there stand something special for me 'user'?
>


I think you can disregard the aliases file as Gregor mentioned. I had
only mentioned it because I remember needing to configure it for my user
"news" mail to be forwarded.


> Hope that there are some more informations for you.

Yes, but I've run out of "steam" for the day. I got up early, and have
worked in the yard part of the day.

Jens, I'll need to go fire up a test box and run the dpkg-reconfigure
exim4-config and see how your results compare to mine.

It's getting late at night here in the Kansas City area (2145 already),
so it will be sometime tomorrow before I can get down to the basement to
boot a spare Debian box.

If you haven't figured it out by tomorrow, or received a
more-knowledgeable help reply than I can give from my failing memory,
I'll try it and be back here with the reconfigure results.


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gregor herrmann wrote:

> so you now have:
> out.alice-dsl.de:alice-user:alice-password
> in passwd.client and
> dc_smarthost='out.alice-dsl.de'
> in update-exim4.conf.conf and it's still not working?

Yes, sorry, gregor (now you can understand, why I am so confused...)
dc_smarthost has the same entry as my passwd.client. And
config.autogenerated has it too at the DCsmarthost line.

Jens

Could it be an error of alice too?

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John F. Morse wrote:

> Where is this confd file? I can't locate it on my Debian Etch boxes.

Sorry, John - I have meant /etc/exim4/conf.d/ and the files stored there in
the subfolders.

This is the output of my re-delivered mutt:

Return-path: <lindermann@machine>
Received: from lindermann by machine with local (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from <lindermann@machine>)
id 1JnpZe-00015E-RV
for jenslindermann@yahoo.de; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:32:22 +0200
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:32:22 +0200
From: "Jens-Olaf Lindermann" <Myemail@alice>
To: jenslindermann@yahoo.de
Subject: Test
Message-ID: <20080421063222.GA4163@Hades>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11)

Test

Greetings from Berlin
Jens

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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:22:19 +0200, Jens-Olaf Lindermann wrote:

>> so you now have:
>> out.alice-dsl.de:alice-user:alice-password
>> in passwd.client and
>> dc_smarthost='out.alice-dsl.de'
>> in update-exim4.conf.conf and it's still not working?
> Yes, sorry, gregor (now you can understand, why I am so confused...)

I understand your confusion

> dc_smarthost has the same entry as my passwd.client. And
> config.autogenerated has it too at the DCsmarthost line.

and you have
dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost'
in update-exim4.conf.conf?

> Could it be an error of alice too?

well, yes, you could check with any email client.

but if I remember your log correctly exim didn't even try to
authenticate ...


gregor
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Jens-Olaf Lindermann wrote:
> John F. Morse wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
>> Have you tried to reconfigure Exim with sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
>>
>
> I have reconfigured it.
> 1. split in multiple files
> 2. SMTP and smarthost (fetchmail),
> 3. E-Mail-Name of my system: Name of my machine
> 4. IP 127.0.0.1
> 5. further domains: name of my machine
> 6. relay: empty
> 7. smtp.mailserver.org:25
> 8. Hide local E-Mail-Name: Yes
> 9. visible name: mailserver.org
> 10.minimize DNS: Yes
> 11.mbox /var/mail/
>
> And I have also configured the client-section of my template-file in confd/.
>
>> Also check your /etc/aliases file to make sure it is correct because
>> Exim uses it.
>>
>
> must there stand something special for me 'user'?
>
> Hope that there are some more informations for you.
>
> Jens

OK, Jens, I have reconfigured my Exim4 server on a spare Debian Etch
box. My settings are quite different than yours.

1. split in multiple files -- No, I use a single file.

2. SMTP and smarthost (fetchmail) -- No, I use "Internet Site."

3. E-Mail-Name of my system: Name of my machine -- No, I use a FQDN.

4. IP 127.0.0.1 -- This is OK since I don't expect incoming mail.

5. further domains: name of my machine -- No, I use a FQDN.

6. relay: empty -- This is OK.

7. smtp.mailserver.org:25 -- No, mine is blank.

8. Hide local E-Mail-Name: Yes -- Not used.

9. visible name: mailserver.org -- Not used.

10.minimize DNS: Yes -- No, I have "No" chosen.

11.mbox /var/mail/ -- Yes, this is what I use.

Numbers 7 through 9 are probably because number 2 is Internet Site.

I sent a test e-mail message from the computer to an Internet address
and it worked perfectly. It went out from Exim4 on my cable ISP to
another ISP, att.net. Then I used Fetchmail to retrieve it and put it on
my SIMS server.

Here is the message header (with some munging):


From - Mon Apr 21 17:17:47 2008
X-Account-Key: account10
X-UIDL: 2115065
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
Return-Path: john@optim3.my.net
Received: from [192.168.1.24] (HELO postoffice.att.net) by my.net (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0002115065 for <me@mail.my.net>; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:07:28 -0500
Received: from sccwmxc02.att.net ([205.127.208.84])
by att.net (mtiwmxc18) with ESMTP
id <2008042121595001800ngbvhe>; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:59:51 +0000
Received: from localhost (75-224-216-191.dyn.cable.net[75.224.216.191])
by att.net (sccwmxc02) with ESMTP
id <20080421202936s0200avh5fe>; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:29:36 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [75.224.216.191]
Received: from john by localhost with local (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from <john@optim3.my.net>)
id 1Jo2dn-0000PY-3s
for mymail@att.net; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:29:31 -0500
To: mymail@att.net
Subject: Test
Message-Id: <E1Jo2dn-0000PY-3s@localhost>
From: john <john@optim3.my.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:29:31 -0500



It's been so long since I read your original failure report that I'm
confused what you were trying to do. ;-)

My memory says it was a failure to be able to send e-mail out to the
Internet. If this is so, then maybe my configuration will fix it.

If it was another problem, please accept my apology for straying off the
path.

I'm sorry this test took so long but the att.net ISP has a problem today
with their POP3 server and their Webmail interface. I had not received
any bounce message back to Exim4, so I suspected att.net had a problem,
which just cleared up in the past hour.


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gregor herrmann wrote:


> I understand your confusion

Thanks gregor ;-)

configtype smarthost I have in my update-exim4.conf indeed. A curious thing
about the configuration is, that in the case I have
written 'mail.alice-dsl.net' instead of 'smtp.alice-dsl.net' the
message 'unable to relay' turns to authentication failure... As I now have
found out, it could be an error of my isp, because they naturally won't
relay an email of an external host (spam) and so the relayhost is different
from my normal email-configuration.


> well, yes, you could check with any email client.
kmail works fine...

I will try on - being a little 'blockhead' (in the positive sense - don't
know the right word for this...)

Jens

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John F. Morse wrote:


Hi John,

> 1. split in multiple files -- No, I use a single file.
Ok, I too now

> 2. SMTP and smarthost (fetchmail) -- No, I use "Internet Site."
smtp and over smarthost (fetchmail) was, because my private workstation
machine runs not all time and I have to dial in (though DSL) so the IP is
not static.

> 3. E-Mail-Name of my system: Name of my machine -- No, I use a FQDN.
The name of my machine is, say, XY - how could I get a FQDN? In my case this
goes not, I suppose?


7 to 9 (sounds like star trek ;-) ) were the configurations for '...over
smarthost'

> 10.minimize DNS: Yes -- No, I have "No" chosen.
Ok, so I do now.


Beside I still have 'machinename' in the configuration for missing FQDN I
now get this when sending a mail to my yahoo over alice: (some changings in
here)

jenslindermann[AT]yahoo.de
SMTP error from remote mail server after initial connection:
host c.mx.mail.yahoo.com [IP-ADRESS]: 553 Mail from [MY-IP] not
allowed - 5.7.1 [BL21]
+Connections not accepted from IP addresses on Spamhaus PBL; see
http://postmaster.yahoo.com/550-bl21.html
+[550]

------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------

Return-path: <lindermann@machinename>
Received: from lindermann by machinename with local (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from <lindermann@machinename>)
id 1JoCIK-0001T4-Aa
for jenslindermann[AT]yahoo.de; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:48:00 +0200
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:48:00 +0200
From: Lindermann <me[AT]alice>
To: jenslindermann[AT]yahoo.de
Subject: Test
Message-ID: <20080422064800.GA5639@Hades>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11)

Test


> I'm sorry this test took so long
Please, John, no excuses! I must excuse this bothering problem - and its
great, that there are such people in the community, answering an
bad-English-writing German Debian-newbie...

Jens



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Jens-Olaf Lindermann wrote:
> John F. Morse wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
>> 1. split in multiple files -- No, I use a single file.
>>
> Ok, I too now
>


This option really shouldn't matter. One file may be easier to maintain
than multiple files, especially for a small site like yours and mine.


>> 2. SMTP and smarthost (fetchmail) -- No, I use "Internet Site."
>>
> smtp and over smarthost (fetchmail) was, because my private workstation
> machine runs not all time and I have to dial in (though DSL) so the IP is
> not static.


I don't think this matters for outgoing mail, but according to your new
failure that you show below, it seems you are now getting out to the
Internet.


>> 3. E-Mail-Name of my system: Name of my machine -- No, I use a FQDN.
>>
> The name of my machine is, say, XY - how could I get a FQDN? In my case this
> goes not, I suppose?
>


One easy and quick method is to make up one, but that could cause
problems with the real domain name owner if there is one. ;-)

If you want to register a domain, I think GoDaddy is the cheapest.
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/default.asp

You can also get a free domain from several registrars. I have one from
no-ip.com that I've used for years. http://www.no-ip.com

The problem with it is their "no-ip.*" is used, such as
"mydomain.no-ip.org" so you are advertising for them. But it is free.


> Beside I still have 'machinename' in the configuration for missing FQDN I
> now get this when sending a mail to my yahoo over alice: (some changings in
> here)
>
> jenslindermann[AT]yahoo.de
> SMTP error from remote mail server after initial connection:
> host c.mx.mail.yahoo.com [IP-ADRESS]: 553 Mail from [MY-IP] not
> allowed - 5.7.1 [BL21]
> +Connections not accepted from IP addresses on Spamhaus PBL; see
> http://postmaster.yahoo.com/550-bl21.html
> +[550]
>
> ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------
>
> Return-path: <lindermann@machinename>
> Received: from lindermann by machinename with local (Exim 4.63)
> (envelope-from <lindermann@machinename>)
> id 1JoCIK-0001T4-Aa
> for jenslindermann[AT]yahoo.de; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:48:00 +0200
> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:48:00 +0200
> From: Lindermann <me[AT]alice>
> To: jenslindermann[AT]yahoo.de
> Subject: Test
> Message-ID: <20080422064800.GA5639@Hades>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Disposition: inline
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11)
>
> Test
>
>> I'm sorry this test took so long
>>
> Please, John, no excuses! I must excuse this bothering problem - and its
> great, that there are such people in the community, answering an
> bad-English-writing German Debian-newbie...
>
> Jens

No bother at all. Your English is far better than my German! ( Ihr
Englisch ist weit besser als mein Deutscher! Dieses ist nicht ich aber
Alta Vista Babel Fisch http://world.altavista.com/tr ) ;-)

It seems your problem now is Spamhaus has your ISP's IP range listed in
their RBL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL

This is a common problem, due to so much spam being sent by hijacked
Windows PCs on residential-grade ISPs. I sometimes have to go to
Spamhaus and remove my IP from their RBL.

Spamhaus actually lists the whole range of IPs of ISPs that have a
history of spammers. I have a cable ISP, so my dynamically-assigned IP
will remain the same for many months, and even several years. So
Spamhaus can remove the one IP that is assigned to me, and my RBL
problems no longer exist.

Go to the suggested Website and see what they require you to do to get
your IP cleared: http://postmaster.yahoo.com/550-bl21.html

Since you are on a dialup ISP, which usually provides only a dynamic IP
assignment, getting an IP off the remote black list may be futile
because you will get a new one on every new connection.

Running a mail server on a dynamic IP is a constant fight. If you can
get a static IP from your dialup ISP, or even better some kind of
broadband like DSL or cable TV, that would be the solution.

Then you could register a domain name and have a non-changing IP to
point it toward.

Using a Yahoo/MSN/Google e-mail address is nearly always certain to
cause an RBL block because so many spammers use those "throw-away"
e-mail addresses. A small ISP would probably not be such a target for
spammers, and appear "cleaner," but who knows, since spammers do
whatever it takes to spam.

You can also try sending your e-mail test message backwards, reversing
the ISP direction, and see if the other ISP e-mail address is blacklisted.

tschüß


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The EULA sounds like it was written by a team of lawyers who want to tell me what I can't do. The GPL sounds like it was written by a human being, who wants me to know what I can do.

John F. Morse wrote:

<wise and much>

Thank you, John for the answer. I will see if I can get a static IP from my
isp (think that this will be the better way to solve the problem).
And then I will going to remove some German ngs which were bothering me with
questions without solutions ;-)

If I should solve my problem I will write it!

Jens

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Jens-Olaf Lindermann wrote:
> John F. Morse wrote:
>
> <wise and much>
>
> Thank you, John for the answer. I will see if I can get a static IP from my
> isp (think that this will be the better way to solve the problem).
> And then I will going to remove some German ngs which were bothering me with
> questions without solutions ;-)
>
> If I should solve my problem I will write it!
>


Yes, please do inform me of what you discovered.

Good luck!

tschüß


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The EULA sounds like it was written by a team of lawyers who want to tell me what I can't do. The GPL sounds like it was written by a human being, who wants me to know what I can do.