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Old 01-19-2008, 06:33 AM
Rolleston
 
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Default Gentoo kicks Debian over the horizon :)

Feeling somewhat displeased with the whole "emerge"
situation, I thought I'd sample the good life and
dabble with Debian. What a despicable traitor, you
say. Not so fast. I'm back in Gentopia where the
air is pure and bzflag flies.

The X-window rendering was vile in Debian. Whether
that's an XFree86 issue or not, I cannot say.
Nothing I did to the XF86Config-4 file helped, and
"dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" was no use at all.

What I set up in a few seconds with Gentoo I could
not do in four hours with that pustulent pile of
putrefying pimples that is Debian. I exaggerate
only a little

Then there's the DRI situation, a whole other
nightmare, made worse because "X.org" does not
seem to be available in any of the "standard"
Debian releases. Needless to say, the source
to be compiled for XFree86 did not compile
successfully (I think it may be designed to
go with a 2.4.x kernel, the sort of antique
item Debheads so love).

I could rant on and on for hours, a line of
dribble trailing from my foaming gob. I will
not, because, back in the company of Gentoo,
I feel an overwhelming sense of calm.

Now, onto the important bit: how to get the
universal live cd bootup screen on my system
(the one with the cow image). Any suggestions?

Cheers,

R.



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Old 01-19-2008, 06:33 AM
Jim Bowering
 
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Rolleston wrote:

> Feeling somewhat displeased with the whole "emerge"
> situation, I thought I'd sample the good life and
> dabble with Debian. What a despicable traitor, you
> say. Not so fast. I'm back in Gentopia where the
> air is pure and bzflag flies.
>
> The X-window rendering was vile in Debian. Whether
> that's an XFree86 issue or not, I cannot say.
> Nothing I did to the XF86Config-4 file helped, and
> "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" was no use at all.
>
> What I set up in a few seconds with Gentoo I could
> not do in four hours with that pustulent pile of
> putrefying pimples that is Debian. I exaggerate
> only a little
>
> Then there's the DRI situation, a whole other
> nightmare, made worse because "X.org" does not
> seem to be available in any of the "standard"
> Debian releases. Needless to say, the source
> to be compiled for XFree86 did not compile
> successfully (I think it may be designed to
> go with a 2.4.x kernel, the sort of antique
> item Debheads so love).
>
> I could rant on and on for hours, a line of
> dribble trailing from my foaming gob. I will
> not, because, back in the company of Gentoo,
> I feel an overwhelming sense of calm.
>
> Now, onto the important bit: how to get the
> universal live cd bootup screen on my system
> (the one with the cow image). Any suggestions?
>
> Cheers,
>
> R.


And the cow jumped over the Moon.

--
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:33 AM
The B.
 
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:36:56 +0000, Rolleston wrote:

<TROLL snipped>

> Now, onto the important bit: how to get the
> universal live cd bootup screen on my system
> (the one with the cow image). Any suggestions?


Yes. Go away.
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:34 AM
Moe Trin
 
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In article <pan.2004.10.31.23.36.55.118358@tiscali.co.uk>, Rolleston wrote:

>What I set up in a few seconds with Gentoo I could
>not do in four hours with that pustulent pile of
>putrefying pimples that is Debian. I exaggerate
>only a little


It's normal to prefer your first $FOO

>Needless to say, the source to be compiled for XFree86 did
>not compile successfully (I think it may be designed to go
>with a 2.4.x kernel, the sort of antique item Debheads so love).


Ah, so you are a complete failure and couldn't find a clue if
surrounded by them. No, troll - it doesn't depend on the kernel,
but I guess you don't know the first thing about reading documentation.

Troll O Meter

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Normally, I'd say "Sorry, try a little harder next time.", but I can't
be bothered. I'm actually surprised you aren't using Fedora, or Mandrake
as that would better fit your skill level.

<PLONK>

Old guy

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Old 01-19-2008, 06:34 AM
Brian Brunner
 
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On Mon, 01 Nov 2004, (Moe Trin) wrote:

>> I'm actually surprised you aren't using Fedora


Hey! Watch yer mouth!

AssSprain.


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Old 01-19-2008, 06:34 AM
Rolleston
 
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Moe Trin wrote:
>>Needless to say, the source to be compiled for XFree86 did
>>not compile successfully (I think it may be designed to go
>>with a 2.4.x kernel, the sort of antique item Debheads so love).

>
> Ah, so you are a complete failure and couldn't find a clue if
> surrounded by them. No, troll - it doesn't depend on the kernel,
> but I guess you don't know the first thing about reading documentation.


No, you are completely wrong.

If one chooses the compilation route, one needs to compile a DRM
module, a kernel module. A patch needs to be applied to Daenzer's
DRM module source (in the package "drm-mach64-module-src") to get
it to compile against the 2.6.7 kernel.

The patch is available here:

http://www.hjsoft.com/~glynis/mach64...-2.6.patch.txt.

Even then, the DRM source it will not compile unless the the file
"<kernel-src>/debian/rules" has been generated. That is, it will not
compile against vanilla source obtained from "http://www.kernel.org".
And even if one generates the "rules" file, the compilation fails on
some modules. Fortunately, the mach64 module is not one of them,
so you can choose to compile that alone.

Take note: in case you find my words challenging: "source to be
compiled for XFree86" is not equivalent to "XFree86 source".

No doubt you will dismiss what I have written as the words of a troll,
because, for thin-skinned individuals like you, any criticism of your
beloved Debian must be the work of a troll.

Oh, btw: in which century will an official Debian X.Org package be
made available?

Cheers,

R.
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:34 AM
Jim Bowering
 
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Rolleston wrote:

> No doubt you will dismiss what I have written as the words of a troll,
> because, for thin-skinned individuals like you, any criticism of your
> beloved Debian must be the work of a troll.


Well, it looks as if the jig is up. He's seen through us. I guess that
would be easy, what with our thin skin and all. Maybe we should all switch
to Gentoo. It seems to make people superior human beings.

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Old 01-19-2008, 06:34 AM
Rolleston
 
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Jim Bowering wrote:
> Well, it looks as if the jig is up. He's seen through us. I guess that
> would be easy, what with our thin skin and all. Maybe we should all switch
> to Gentoo. It seems to make people superior human beings.


It wouldn't harm you, but I can't say it'd make you any less dull.

Go on, entertain us with your story about the time when you, ahem,
"lost" ldconfig. Any bids for the serialization rights?

R.

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Old 01-19-2008, 06:34 AM
Jim Bowering
 
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Rolleston wrote:

> Jim Bowering wrote:
>> Well, it looks as if the jig is up. He's seen through us. I guess that
>> would be easy, what with our thin skin and all. Maybe we should all
>> switch
>> to Gentoo. It seems to make people superior human beings.

>
> It wouldn't harm you, but I can't say it'd make you any less dull.
>
> Go on, entertain us with your story about the time when you, ahem,
> "lost" ldconfig. Any bids for the serialization rights?
>
> R.


This is where the insults go from general to personal. Right on schedule.

For the record: I don't blame Gentoo for this user's rudeness.

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Old 01-19-2008, 06:34 AM
Rolleston
 
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Jim Bowering wrote:
> For the record: I don't blame Gentoo for this user's rudeness.


An eternal record of your profound utterances?

The world simply couldn't survive without it.

Bring forth the bronze. We'll inscribe it at once.

R.

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