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Installing Debian into a dual boot with win98se.

The whole thing goes nice and smoothly through the partitioning and
installing base packages etc.

Then it gets to the part where it installs Grub and that appears to go fine
as well. (at least no error messages).

Then it ejects the CD and reboots. This is when I get this error:

----
Grub Loading Stage1.5.

Grub Loading, Please wait...
Error 18
----

At this point the machine locks up. further attempts to reboot get the
same results. The only solution so far is to boot from a floppy and use
restorrb.exe to restore the MBR to the state it was in before the
installation which at least lets me get back to windows.

Any suggestions would be most welcome.

Thanks

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:00:27 -0500, Ed
<apostle@REMOVETHISpeculiar.homeip.net> wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:

> Installing Debian into a dual boot with win98se.
>
> The whole thing goes nice and smoothly through the partitioning and
> installing base packages etc.
>
> Then it gets to the part where it installs Grub and that appears to go fine
> as well. (at least no error messages).
>
> Then it ejects the CD and reboots. This is when I get this error:
>
> ----
> Grub Loading Stage1.5.
>
> Grub Loading, Please wait...
> Error 18
> ----
>
> At this point the machine locks up. further attempts to reboot get the
> same results. The only solution so far is to boot from a floppy and use
> restorrb.exe to restore the MBR to the state it was in before the
> installation which at least lets me get back to windows.
>
> Any suggestions would be most welcome.

Does this help?

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18


PJR :-)
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PJR <pjr@NOSPAMkookbusters.org> wrote in
news:slrndkq9r0.iuf.pjr@nntp.petitmorte.net:

>
> Does this help?
>
> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
>
>
> PJR :-)

Yes it did, Thanks. I resized my windows partition to cyls 0-999 and made
a 10 cyl partition for /boot and then followed suggestions I saw someplace
(duh-brain here didn't bookmark it) for the rest of it.

Result is working Win98SE / Debian Sarge dual boot.

I still need to figure out how to deal with video drivers... In the install
I picked 'S3 Virge' 'cause thats what's in here, but the resolution offered
is only 800 x 600 and (i think) 640 x 480 instead of the 1024 x 768 I use
in win98

I figure this has to do with my simply pressing <enter> when the installer
asked me for a physical address for the card, which I've no idea yet where
to find.

Do you (or anyone else) have a clue you can toss my way?

I'm gonna learn this thing yet.

Ed wrote:

> PJR <pjr@NOSPAMkookbusters.org> wrote in
> news:slrndkq9r0.iuf.pjr@nntp.petitmorte.net:
>
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
>>
>>
>> PJR :-)
>
> Yes it did, Thanks. I resized my windows partition to cyls 0-999 and made
> a 10 cyl partition for /boot and then followed suggestions I saw someplace
> (duh-brain here didn't bookmark it) for the rest of it.
>
> Result is working Win98SE / Debian Sarge dual boot.
>
> I still need to figure out how to deal with video drivers... In the
> install I picked 'S3 Virge' 'cause thats what's in here, but the
> resolution offered is only 800 x 600 and (i think) 640 x 480 instead of
> the 1024 x 768 I use in win98
>
> I figure this has to do with my simply pressing <enter> when the installer
> asked me for a physical address for the card, which I've no idea yet where
> to find.
>
> Do you (or anyone else) have a clue you can toss my way?
>
> I'm gonna learn this thing yet.
The 800 x 600 is probably the most posted problem in this newsgroup. I also
have the same problem after installing. The fix is simple:

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Follow through the questions, most you've seen and will default to your
original answers. When you get to the video resolution highlight the 1024
x 768 and press the space bar to select it.

I've done several installs on several computers and it's just one step I've
had to do after every install.

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:30:24 -0500, Ed
<apostle@REMOVETHISpeculiar.homeip.net> wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:

> I still need to figure out how to deal with video drivers... In the
> install I picked 'S3 Virge' 'cause thats what's in here, but the
> resolution offered is only 800 x 600 and (i think) 640 x 480 instead
> of the 1024 x 768 I use in win98
>
> I figure this has to do with my simply pressing <enter> when the
> installer asked me for a physical address for the card, which I've
> no idea yet where to find.

It's more likely something to do with monitor refresh rates. Windows
will provide all the screen resolutions supported by the monitor, but
Debian by default won't include any that have a sub-optimal refresh
rate. The solution, as somebody else has said, is to use
dpkg-reconfigure as root.


PJR :-)
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Meat Loaf wrote:

> The 800 x 600 is probably the most posted problem in this newsgroup.
> I also
> have the same problem after installing. The fix is simple:
>
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
>
> Follow through the questions, most you've seen and will default to
> your
> original answers. When you get to the video resolution highlight the
> 1024 x 768 and press the space bar to select it.
>
> I've done several installs on several computers and it's just one step
> I've had to do after every install.

I tried that command on a new Sarge install - and there was absolutely
no response to it - not even a message saying that the command was not
recognised - and I pasted it from your article to avoid typos.
Any ideas?

In article <RJudnQEZUYjlg9PeRVnyhg@pipex.net>, Chris
<nospam@[127.0.0.1]> writes
>Meat Loaf wrote:

>> The 800 x 600 is probably the most posted problem in this newsgroup.
>> I also
>> have the same problem after installing. The fix is simple:
>> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
>> Follow through the questions, most you've seen and will default to
>> your
>> original answers. When you get to the video resolution highlight the
>> 1024 x 768 and press the space bar to select it.
>> I've done several installs on several computers and it's just one step
>> I've had to do after every install.

>I tried that command on a new Sarge install - and there was absolutely
>no response to it - not even a message saying that the command was not
>recognised - and I pasted it from your article to avoid typos.
>Any ideas?

I found out why - it was because I had already edited XF86Config-4
myself.
I followed the instructions at the top of that file - and could get
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to run.

But I still couldn't get 1024x768 for my 15" tft monitor.
Had to go back to editing XF86Config-4.

All I did there was to change 800x600 to 1024x768 in the last occurrence
of 800x600.

I am now going to try another install of Sarge using the expert26 switch
- to see what difference that makes.
--
Chris

PJR <pjr@NOSPAMkookbusters.org> wrote in
news:slrndkrtu9.iuf.pjr@nntp.petitmorte.net:

> It's more likely something to do with monitor refresh rates. Windows
> will provide all the screen resolutions supported by the monitor, but
> Debian by default won't include any that have a sub-optimal refresh
> rate. The solution, as somebody else has said, is to use
> dpkg-reconfigure as root.

Turns out that the refresh rate was it. In the process of trying to get it
set right I managed to thoroughly mangle xfree86 so bad that I then took
time to figure out how to uninstall and reinstall clean. This time it
worked and 1024x768@75hz is working great.

Thanks again.

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In article <Xns96EE9F132A4192362352@216.196.97.142>, Ed
<apostle@REMOVETHISpeculiar.homeip.net> writes
>PJR <pjr@NOSPAMkookbusters.org> wrote in
>news:slrndkrtu9.iuf.pjr@nntp.petitmorte.net:
>
>> It's more likely something to do with monitor refresh rates. Windows
>> will provide all the screen resolutions supported by the monitor, but
>> Debian by default won't include any that have a sub-optimal refresh
>> rate. The solution, as somebody else has said, is to use
>> dpkg-reconfigure as root.
>
>Turns out that the refresh rate was it. In the process of trying to get it
>set right I managed to thoroughly mangle xfree86 so bad that I then took
>time to figure out how to uninstall and reinstall clean. This time it
>worked and 1024x768@75hz is working great.

With a 15" TFT monitor the screen needs to be set to 1024x768 to
coincide with the monitor's native resolution.

But what should the refresh rate be?

I have read that for TFTs slower is better, which would suggest 60,
rather than 75. Can anyone shed any light on this?
--
Chris