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Gnome is the standard GUI with my recent install of Debian/Gnu Agnula. How do
I set KDM to fire up instead of XDM. I forgot. Is that in the initrd
something or other?
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:56:16 -0700, TimeTraveler
<tardisREMOVE@heartsofmusic.com> wrote:
> Gnome is the standard GUI with my recent install of Debian/Gnu Agnula.
> How do I set KDM to fire up instead of XDM. I forgot. Is that in the
> initrd something or other?

echo /usr/bin/kdm >/etc/X11/default-display-manager


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On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:01 a poster that claims to be Bill Marcum wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:56:16 -0700, TimeTraveler
> <tardisREMOVE@heartsofmusic.com> wrote:
>> Gnome is the standard GUI with my recent install of Debian/Gnu Agnula.
>> How do I set KDM to fire up instead of XDM. I forgot. Is that in the
>> initrd something or other?
>
> echo /usr/bin/kdm >/etc/X11/default-display-manager
>
>

Thanks. I see where that that set kdm as the default but all I got was a
command prompt. I must have been in runlevel 5 'cause gdm would work.

BTY - this Debian distro isn't sarge; it's Agnula.

When I go to kde.org I don't find any source or binaries for Debian. I can
see that there are KDE folders and files on the partition, but KDM won't
initialize.

I'm think that, thus far, Debian hasn't got a lot of KDE support yet. Gnome
is second best in my view.

I'm still trying to get a KDE environment up and running in Agnula.
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when it hits you, you feel no pain.
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TimeTraveler wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:01 a poster that claims to be Bill Marcum wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:56:16 -0700, TimeTraveler
> > <tardisREMOVE@heartsofmusic.com> wrote:
> >> Gnome is the standard GUI with my recent install of Debian/Gnu Agnula.
> >> How do I set KDM to fire up instead of XDM. I forgot. Is that in the
> >> initrd something or other?
> >
> > echo /usr/bin/kdm >/etc/X11/default-display-manager
> >
> >
>
> Thanks. I see where that that set kdm as the default but all I got was a
> command prompt. I must have been in runlevel 5 'cause gdm would work.

There is no differens between run levels 3-5 in debian. All start a
X11 DM (XDM, GDM or KDM) if you have one installed and X is configured.

> BTY - this Debian distro isn't sarge; it's Agnula.

Which is based on a Debian version.

> When I go to kde.org I don't find any source or binaries for Debian. I can
> see that there are KDE folders and files on the partition, but KDM won't
> initialize.

It should be packed in Debian, so you don't need to fetch any source
from KDE.org

> I'm think that, thus far, Debian hasn't got a lot of KDE support yet. Gnome
> is second best in my view.

Debian has a lot of KDE support, as much as Gnome.

> I'm still trying to get a KDE environment up and running in Agnula.

You do not need KDM to run KDE environment, as you don't need GDM to
run Gnome environment.
Just install KDE meta package and select KDE environment when you log
in. It works for me.

KDM is only a graphical X display login manager. As XDM and GDM also
is. You can start any X environment you want from each of them.
XDM is X Display Manager, KDM is KDE Display Manager and GDM is Gnome
Display Manager, becose they use that widget set (buttons labels etc)
to creat the application. Same functionallity, different UI.

You should not need to download anything from some other site, like
kde.org. It should be prepacked for you at debian site. So put the
right lines in /etc/apt/source.list and install it like any other
package. That is why we use Debian and not Suse or Red Hat. We don´t
need to download different packages ourtrself, apt in Debian does it
for us.

On Wednesday 23 August 2006 04:14 a poster that claims to be
anders.jackson@gmail.com wrote:

> TimeTraveler wrote:
>> On Tuesday 22 August 2006 07:01 a poster that claims to be Bill Marcum
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:56:16 -0700, TimeTraveler
>> > <tardisREMOVE@heartsofmusic.com> wrote:
>> >> Gnome is the standard GUI with my recent install of Debian/Gnu Agnula.
>> >> How do I set KDM to fire up instead of XDM. I forgot. Is that in the
>> >> initrd something or other?
>> >
>> > echo /usr/bin/kdm >/etc/X11/default-display-manager
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Thanks. I see where that that set kdm as the default but all I got was a
>> command prompt. I must have been in runlevel 5 'cause gdm would work.
>
> There is no differens between run levels 3-5 in debian. All start a
> X11 DM (XDM, GDM or KDM) if you have one installed and X is configured.
>
>> BTY - this Debian distro isn't sarge; it's Agnula.
>
> Which is based on a Debian version.
>
>> When I go to kde.org I don't find any source or binaries for Debian. I can
>> see that there are KDE folders and files on the partition, but KDM won't
>> initialize.
>
> It should be packed in Debian, so you don't need to fetch any source
> from KDE.org
>
>> I'm think that, thus far, Debian hasn't got a lot of KDE support yet.
>> Gnome is second best in my view.
>
> Debian has a lot of KDE support, as much as Gnome.
>
>> I'm still trying to get a KDE environment up and running in Agnula.
>
> You do not need KDM to run KDE environment, as you don't need GDM to
> run Gnome environment.

I understand. KDE is not one of the choices available with the stock login
manager.

> Just install KDE meta package and select KDE environment when you log
> in. It works for me.

Where do I find the meta package? I looked for it before I posted this.

>
> KDM is only a graphical X display login manager. As XDM and GDM also
> is. You can start any X environment you want from each of them.
> XDM is X Display Manager, KDM is KDE Display Manager and GDM is Gnome
> Display Manager, becose they use that widget set (buttons labels etc)
> to creat the application. Same functionallity, different UI.
>
> You should not need to download anything from some other site, like
> kde.org. It should be prepacked for you at debian site.

I'll take another look. I often do these kinds of things when I should
already be in bed.

> So put the
> right lines in /etc/apt/source.list and install it like any other
> package.

Will check it out, thanks.

> That is why we use Debian and not Suse or Red Hat. We don?t
> need to download different packages ourtrself, apt in Debian does it
> for us.

I'm guessing you're not familiar with YaST2. It's more robust than Synaptic
whatsit.

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TimeTraveler

One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel no pain.
- Bob Marley

>> Just install KDE meta package and select KDE environment when you log
>> in. It works for me.
>
> Where do I find the meta package? I looked for it before I posted this.
>
The meta package _is_ kdm!
# apt-get install kdm

Salve Håkedal wrote:
>>> Just install KDE meta package and select KDE environment when you log
>>> in. It works for me.
>> Where do I find the meta package? I looked for it before I posted this.
>>
> The meta package _is_ kdm!
> # apt-get install kdm

Nope, he still needs the KDE base packages to run the Kdesktop, it's
best to: # apt-get install KDE.
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On 2006-08-27, Bad Dog <Bad_Dog@spam.can> wrote:
> Salve Håkedal wrote:
>>>> Just install KDE meta package and select KDE environment when you log
>>>> in. It works for me.
>>> Where do I find the meta package? I looked for it before I posted this.
>>>
>> The meta package _is_ kdm!
>> # apt-get install kdm
>
> Nope, he still needs the KDE base packages to run the Kdesktop, it's
> best to: # apt-get install KDE.
oh, of course, it was a typo!

On Sunday 27 August 2006 10:35 a poster that claims to be Salve Håkedal wrote:

> On 2006-08-27, Bad Dog <Bad_Dog@spam.can> wrote:
>> Salve Håkedal wrote:
>>>>> Just install KDE meta package and select KDE environment when you log
>>>>> in. It works for me.
>>>> Where do I find the meta package? I looked for it before I posted this.
>>>>
>>> The meta package _is_ kdm!
>>> # apt-get install kdm
>>
>> Nope, he still needs the KDE base packages to run the Kdesktop, it's
>> best to: # apt-get install KDE.
> oh, of course, it was a typo!

I think I'll install pure Debian on a spare partition to see what you guys are
telling me. Agnula seems to be different in it's handling of this package.
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TimeTraveler

One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel no pain.
- Bob Marley