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Have a box with P4, 1G RAM, 60 Gig HDD dual booting Linux Mint and Debian
Etch 4.0 with GRUB.

Have had a major crash.

Computer worked fine in the morning but later in the day I powered up and
got the GRUB screen showing Mint and Etch selection menu as per normal.

Tried to boot into Etch, which I use normally and after some scrolling text
in a console the system froze with a kernel panic indication.

I did a soft reboot using the computer reset button into Mint and got the
same frozen kernel panic warning.

Inserted a Knoppix Live Distro Disc into the DVD tray and tried a reboot.
The computer recognised the live distro and then froze with the same kernel
panic message whilst trying to boot.

Any thoughts please ...maybe HDD or motherboard ...thanks in advance.

Klang

"Klang" <gclegg@ozemail.com.au> writes:

> Collegues
>
> Have a box with P4, 1G RAM, 60 Gig HDD dual booting Linux Mint and Debian
> Etch 4.0 with GRUB.
>
> Have had a major crash.
>
> Computer worked fine in the morning but later in the day I powered up and
> got the GRUB screen showing Mint and Etch selection menu as per normal.
>
> Tried to boot into Etch, which I use normally and after some scrolling text
> in a console the system froze with a kernel panic indication.
>
> I did a soft reboot using the computer reset button into Mint and got the
> same frozen kernel panic warning.
>
> Inserted a Knoppix Live Distro Disc into the DVD tray and tried a reboot.
> The computer recognised the live distro and then froze with the same kernel
> panic message whilst trying to boot.
>
> Any thoughts please ...maybe HDD or motherboard ...thanks in advance.
>
> Klang

Why would it be HDD if a Live CD does the same? Sounds like RAM or Mobo
or some other HW to me.

Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard Klang typed:
<snip>
> in a console the system froze with a kernel panic indication.
>
> I did a soft reboot using the computer reset button into Mint and got the
> same frozen kernel panic warning.
<snip>
> live distro and then froze with the same kernel panic message whilst
> trying to boot.
>
> Any thoughts please ...maybe HDD or motherboard ...thanks in advance.

LiveCD - maybe the HDD if the LiveCD is trying to set up a ramdisk on
it but unlikely. Other hardware? Perhaps. But, how are we to correctly
help since you've not posted that "same" kernel panic message of three
times for our knowledge?

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"Klang" <gclegg@ozemail.com.au> writes:

>Collegues

>Have a box with P4, 1G RAM, 60 Gig HDD dual booting Linux Mint and Debian
>Etch 4.0 with GRUB.

>Have had a major crash.

>Computer worked fine in the morning but later in the day I powered up and
>got the GRUB screen showing Mint and Etch selection menu as per normal.

>Tried to boot into Etch, which I use normally and after some scrolling text
>in a console the system froze with a kernel panic indication.

>I did a soft reboot using the computer reset button into Mint and got the
>same frozen kernel panic warning.

>Inserted a Knoppix Live Distro Disc into the DVD tray and tried a reboot.
>The computer recognised the live distro and then froze with the same kernel
>panic message whilst trying to boot.

>Any thoughts please ...maybe HDD or motherboard ...thanks in advance.

It is a hardware problem. Almost certainly motherboard-- maybe memory.
Now if you actually told us what that kernel panic message was....

I demand that Unruh may or may not have written...

> "Klang" <gclegg@ozemail.com.au> writes:
>> Have a box with P4, 1G RAM, 60 Gig HDD dual booting Linux Mint and Debian
>> Etch 4.0 with GRUB.

>> Have had a major crash.

>> Computer worked fine in the morning but later in the day I powered up and
>> got the GRUB screen showing Mint and Etch selection menu as per normal.

>> Tried to boot into Etch, which I use normally and after some scrolling
>> text in a console the system froze with a kernel panic indication.
[snip; repeatable, even when booting from CD]

> It is a hardware problem. Almost certainly motherboard-- maybe memory. Now
> if you actually told us what that kernel panic message was....

Include whatever triggered the panic; chances are that it's an "oops" message
with a register dump and stack backtrace. If you can possibly capture the
kernel log on another computer, you should...

http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Docum...netconsole.txt
http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Docum...al-console.txt

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On 4/9/2008 10:23 PM PT, Klang typed:

> Have a box with P4, 1G RAM, 60 Gig HDD dual booting Linux Mint and Debian
> Etch 4.0 with GRUB.
>
> Have had a major crash.
>
> Computer worked fine in the morning but later in the day I powered up and
> got the GRUB screen showing Mint and Etch selection menu as per normal.
>
> Tried to boot into Etch, which I use normally and after some scrolling text
> in a console the system froze with a kernel panic indication.
>
> I did a soft reboot using the computer reset button into Mint and got the
> same frozen kernel panic warning.
>
> Inserted a Knoppix Live Distro Disc into the DVD tray and tried a reboot.
> The computer recognised the live distro and then froze with the same kernel
> panic message whilst trying to boot.
>
> Any thoughts please ...maybe HDD or motherboard ...thanks in advance.

Check your RAM. I had the same exact problem a month ago on my old box.
I fiddled with my two RAM pieces. One went bad. I RMA'ed it and waiting
to get it returned.
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On 2008-04-19, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> On 4/9/2008 10:23 PM PT, Klang typed:
>
>> Have a box with P4, 1G RAM, 60 Gig HDD dual booting Linux Mint and Debian
>> Etch 4.0 with GRUB.
>>
>> Have had a major crash.
>>
>> Computer worked fine in the morning but later in the day I powered up and
>> got the GRUB screen showing Mint and Etch selection menu as per normal.
>>
>> Tried to boot into Etch, which I use normally and after some scrolling text
>> in a console the system froze with a kernel panic indication.
>>
>> I did a soft reboot using the computer reset button into Mint and got the
>> same frozen kernel panic warning.
>>
>> Inserted a Knoppix Live Distro Disc into the DVD tray and tried a reboot.
>> The computer recognised the live distro and then froze with the same kernel
>> panic message whilst trying to boot.
>>
>> Any thoughts please ...maybe HDD or motherboard ...thanks in advance.
>
> Check your RAM. I had the same exact problem a month ago on my old box.
> I fiddled with my two RAM pieces. One went bad. I RMA'ed it and waiting
> to get it returned.

I second the RAM suggestion, I had a similar story.

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On 4/18/2008 10:33 PM PT, Ignoramus15242 typed:

> On 2008-04-19, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>> On 4/9/2008 10:23 PM PT, Klang typed:
>>
>>> Have a box with P4, 1G RAM, 60 Gig HDD dual booting Linux Mint and Debian
>>> Etch 4.0 with GRUB.
>>>
>>> Have had a major crash.
>>>
>>> Computer worked fine in the morning but later in the day I powered up and
>>> got the GRUB screen showing Mint and Etch selection menu as per normal.
>>>
>>> Tried to boot into Etch, which I use normally and after some scrolling text
>>> in a console the system froze with a kernel panic indication.
>>>
>>> I did a soft reboot using the computer reset button into Mint and got the
>>> same frozen kernel panic warning.
>>>
>>> Inserted a Knoppix Live Distro Disc into the DVD tray and tried a reboot.
>>> The computer recognised the live distro and then froze with the same kernel
>>> panic message whilst trying to boot.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts please ...maybe HDD or motherboard ...thanks in advance.
>> Check your RAM. I had the same exact problem a month ago on my old box.
>> I fiddled with my two RAM pieces. One went bad. I RMA'ed it and waiting
>> to get it returned.
>
> I second the RAM suggestion, I had a similar story.

My story was that I had two hard random lockups for no reasons within
two days. After that, my machine refused to boot up so I thought maybe
my PSU, video card, or motherboard went dead. My friend and I didn't
think it was RAM when we changed them (except motherboard). Then, he
tried RAM with different combinations and in various slots (three).
Either Kernel would panic at Linux boot up or not. They were random. As
you can see the lockup problem went to worse.

I don't know what caused the RAM to go bad. Maybe old age?
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Ant wrote:
> I don't know what caused the RAM to go bad. Maybe old age?

In the absence of knowledge of the real reason why memory gates appear
to spontaneously fail, I evenly attribute these kind of failures to bad
luck, neutrinos, and divine providence, depending on my mood.

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On 4/19/2008 2:15 PM PT, Sheridan Hutchinson typed:

> Ant wrote:
>> I don't know what caused the RAM to go bad. Maybe old age?
>
> In the absence of knowledge of the real reason why memory gates appear
> to spontaneously fail, I evenly attribute these kind of failures to bad
> luck, neutrinos, and divine providence, depending on my mood.

Bad computer luck for me then. Computers hate me. I break them too
easily, but then that is why I am a software quality assurance tester.
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