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Hi!

Is there a way to list the packages installed by explicit request but
*not* automatically? I.e.:

Suppose I installed packages aaa, bbb, ccc, etc.
Theses packages caused aaa1, aaa2, bbb1, ccc1, etc. also to be installed
as dependencies.

I want a command (way) to display the packages aaa, bbb, ccc, etc. but
not the aaa1, aaa2, bbb1, ccc1, etc.

Thanks.

Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard Paulo da Silva typed:
> Hi!
>
> Is there a way to list the packages installed by explicit request but
> *not* automatically? I.e.:
>
> Suppose I installed packages aaa, bbb, ccc, etc.
> Theses packages caused aaa1, aaa2, bbb1, ccc1, etc. also to be installed
> as dependencies.
>
> I want a command (way) to display the packages aaa, bbb, ccc, etc. but
> not the aaa1, aaa2, bbb1, ccc1, etc.

Is this what you're seeking?

man dpkg

dpkg-query actions
See dpkg-query(1) for more information about the following actions.

dpkg -l | --list package-name-pattern ...
List packages matching given pattern.
dpkg -s | --status package-name ...
Report status of specified package.
dpkg -L | --listfiles package ...
List files installed to your system from package.
dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...
Search for a filename from installed packages.
dpkg -p | --print-avail package
Display details about package, as found in /var/lib/dpkg/available.

dpkg -L totem
/.
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/totem
/usr/share/doc/totem/README
/usr/share/doc/totem/copyright
/usr/share/doc/totem/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/totem/NEWS.gz
/usr/share/doc/totem/changelog.Debian.gz

dpkg -l totem
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version
+++-=========================-=========================-
ii totem 2.16.5-3


Description
================================================== ================
A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package)


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sk8r-365
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thee. -- Matthew 26:73

sk8r-365 escreveu:
> Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard Paulo da Silva typed:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Is there a way to list the packages installed by explicit request but
>> *not* automatically? I.e.:
>>
>> Suppose I installed packages aaa, bbb, ccc, etc.
>> Theses packages caused aaa1, aaa2, bbb1, ccc1, etc. also to be installed
>> as dependencies.
>>
>> I want a command (way) to display the packages aaa, bbb, ccc, etc. but
>> not the aaa1, aaa2, bbb1, ccc1, etc.
>
> Is this what you're seeking?
>
> man dpkg
>

No! I have tested all forms of dpkg I know and could not find what I
need. May be I am missing something however.

For ex. I installed tk8.5. So tcl8.5 was also installed as tk8.5 depends
on it. "dpkg -l" displays *all* packages installed, including tcl8.5
which I didn't request to be installed.

On Sat, 10 May 2008 18:53:27 +0100, Paulo da Silva wrote:

> Is there a way to list the packages installed by explicit request but
> *not* automatically? I.e.:

You read the notebook you maintained while adding packages.

What's that you say, you didn't keep a notebook? Tut-tut.

On 05/10/2008 01:56 PM, Paulo da Silva wrote:
> sk8r-365 escreveu:
>> Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard Paulo da Silva typed:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Is there a way to list the packages installed by explicit request but
>>> *not* automatically? I.e.:
>>>
>>> Suppose I installed packages aaa, bbb, ccc, etc.
>>> Theses packages caused aaa1, aaa2, bbb1, ccc1, etc. also to be
>>> installed as dependencies.
>>>
>>> I want a command (way) to display the packages aaa, bbb, ccc, etc.
>>> but not the aaa1, aaa2, bbb1, ccc1, etc.
>>
>> Is this what you're seeking?
>>
>> man dpkg
>>
>
> No! I have tested all forms of dpkg I know and could not find what I
> need. May be I am missing something however.
>
> For ex. I installed tk8.5. So tcl8.5 was also installed as tk8.5 depends
> on it. "dpkg -l" displays *all* packages installed, including tcl8.5
> which I didn't request to be installed.

Try this:

aptitude search '~i!~M'

This only works if you consistently used aptitude to install packages.
Read the aptitude manual (/usr/share/doc/aptitude) to find out the
search pattern rules.

Mumia W. escreveu:
> On 05/10/2008 01:56 PM, Paulo da Silva wrote:
>> sk8r-365 escreveu:
>>> Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard Paulo da Silva typed:
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to list the packages installed by explicit request
>>>> but *not* automatically? I.e.:
>>>>
>>>> Suppose I installed packages aaa, bbb, ccc, etc.
>>>> Theses packages caused aaa1, aaa2, bbb1, ccc1, etc. also to be
>>>> installed as dependencies.
>>>>
>>>> I want a command (way) to display the packages aaa, bbb, ccc, etc.
>>>> but not the aaa1, aaa2, bbb1, ccc1, etc.
>>>
>>> Is this what you're seeking?
>>>
>>> man dpkg
>>>
>>
>> No! I have tested all forms of dpkg I know and could not find what I
>> need. May be I am missing something however.
>>
>> For ex. I installed tk8.5. So tcl8.5 was also installed as tk8.5
>> depends on it. "dpkg -l" displays *all* packages installed, including
>> tcl8.5 which I didn't request to be installed.
>
> Try this:
>
> aptitude search '~i!~M'
>
> This only works if you consistently used aptitude to install packages.
Are you sure? apt-get is aware of automatically installed packages. Look
for example at "apt-get autoremove".

> Read the aptitude manual (/usr/share/doc/aptitude) to find out the
> search pattern rules.
>

Thanks. That works (I missed the "not" operator when I first read the
doc). "not automatic installed" is the answer.

On 05/10/2008 09:14 PM, Paulo da Silva wrote:
> Mumia W. escreveu:
>> [...]
>> Try this:
>>
>> aptitude search '~i!~M'
>>
>> This only works if you consistently used aptitude to install packages.
> Are you sure? apt-get is aware of automatically installed packages. Look
> for example at "apt-get autoremove".
> [...]

No I'm not sure about what I said above, but my memory of Sarge's
apt-get was that it wasn't aware of the difference between automatically
and purposefully installed packages. The apt-get on my Etch system does
not document an "autoremove" command.

Anyway, I'm glad you got it sorted out.

>> This only works if you consistently used aptitude to install packages.
> Are you sure? apt-get is aware of automatically installed packages. Look
> for example at "apt-get autoremove".
>


I did some tests and yes: Automatically installed packages are handled
by all package managers I tried - apt-get, aptitude, adept and synaptic.
Unfortunately only apt-get and aptitude support the autoremove feature!
At least I couldn't find how to do it using the GUI ones!

· Paulo da Silva <psdasilvaX@esotericaX.ptX> schrieb:

> I did some tests and yes: Automatically installed packages are handled
> by all package managers I tried - apt-get, aptitude, adept and synaptic.

synaptic too? So far as I realized, all packages installed using synaptic
are marked as "manual" even if they were selected to resolve dependencies,
so a later attempt of automatic remove of these packages with aptitude or
apt-get fails.

Martin.

Martin Schnitkemper escreveu:
> · Paulo da Silva <psdasilvaX@esotericaX.ptX> schrieb:
>
>> I did some tests and yes: Automatically installed packages are handled
>> by all package managers I tried - apt-get, aptitude, adept and synaptic.
>
> synaptic too? So far as I realized, all packages installed using synaptic
> are marked as "manual" even if they were selected to resolve dependencies,
> so a later attempt of automatic remove of these packages with aptitude or
> apt-get fails.


Yes. synaptic too. At least for kubuntu 8.04.

BTW, not so sure about adept however. I did something confuse on my 1st.
try :-(