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Hi,
I'm very new in Linux, just dl and installed Freespire (Debian based) a few
days ago. So far so good, small problems but it works great, lots to learn.
But there is one problem bugging me. I've 3 Hds, one NTFS for XP, one for
Linux and one, fat 32, As a Bridge. Thais one is detected by XP as active
and healthy, but no program can see it, not in my computer or elsewhere. It
works in Linux, no problem. The only option in the XP disk manager is delete
Partition, I rather do it not :-).
Please help me, any help is very much appreciated.
Greetings, Joe.

On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:22:05 -0400, Joe B.
<herzbua@rogers.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm very new in Linux, just dl and installed Freespire (Debian based) a few
> days ago. So far so good, small problems but it works great, lots to learn.
> But there is one problem bugging me. I've 3 Hds, one NTFS for XP, one for
> Linux and one, fat 32, As a Bridge. Thais one is detected by XP as active
> and healthy, but no program can see it, not in my computer or elsewhere. It
> works in Linux, no problem. The only option in the XP disk manager is delete
> Partition, I rather do it not :-).
> Please help me, any help is very much appreciated.
> Greetings, Joe.
>
In Linux "fdisk -l", what is the ID of the FAT32 partition?


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Bill Marcum wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:22:05 -0400, Joe B.
> <herzbua@rogers.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm very new in Linux, just dl and installed Freespire (Debian based) a few
>> days ago. So far so good, small problems but it works great, lots to learn.
>> But there is one problem bugging me. I've 3 Hds, one NTFS for XP, one for
>> Linux and one, fat 32, As a Bridge. Thais one is detected by XP as active
>> and healthy, but no program can see it, not in my computer or elsewhere. It
>> works in Linux, no problem. The only option in the XP disk manager is delete
>> Partition, I rather do it not :-).
>> Please help me, any help is very much appreciated.
>> Greetings, Joe.
>>
> In Linux "fdisk -l", what is the ID of the FAT32 partition?
>
Hi and thank you,
here is what it shows:
> Here DISK is something like /dev/hdb or /dev/sda
> and PARTITION is something like /dev/hda7
> -u: give Start and End in sector (instead of cylinder) units
> -b 2048: (for certain MO disks) use 2048-byte sectors
> jberger@Joecomputer:/mnt/dos$
No idea what it means, no idea about Linux, but i hope it tells you
something.
Greetings, Joe.

Bill Marcum wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:22:05 -0400, Joe B.
> <herzbua@rogers.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm very new in Linux, just dl and installed Freespire (Debian based) a few
>> days ago. So far so good, small problems but it works great, lots to learn.
>> But there is one problem bugging me. I've 3 Hds, one NTFS for XP, one for
>> Linux and one, fat 32, As a Bridge. Thais one is detected by XP as active
>> and healthy, but no program can see it, not in my computer or elsewhere. It
>> works in Linux, no problem. The only option in the XP disk manager is delete
>> Partition, I rather do it not :-).
>> Please help me, any help is very much appreciated.
>> Greetings, Joe.
>>
> In Linux "fdisk -l", what is the ID of the FAT32 partition?
>
Hi Bill,
I always get :fdisk: invalid option -- 1, I never press the - more than
once. Sorry I do not get the ID thing.
In properties it says: Maxtor 90871U2 (partition1)
Type: folder
Location: /home/jberger/my computer
Size 8.0 KB (8192)
Mounted on: /mnt/dos
Free disk space: 5.3 GB out of 8.1 (35%used)
Points to: /mnt/dos
I hope this helps you to help me. Please assume that I am an idiot
without any computer knowledge, since I work for many years in Windows
(from 3.1 to XP).
Thank you for your patience, greetings
Joe.

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:44:06 -0400, Joe B.
<herzbua@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
> Hi Bill,
> I always get :fdisk: invalid option -- 1, I never press the - more than
> once. Sorry I do not get the ID thing.
That's the letter l, not the number 1, and you need to specify which
drive, probably /dev/hda.


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"Bill Marcum" <bmarcum@iglou.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:44:06 -0400, Joe B.
> <herzbua@rogers.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> > Hi Bill,
> > I always get :fdisk: invalid option -- 1, I never press the - more than
> > once. Sorry I do not get the ID thing.
> That's the letter l, not the number 1, and you need to specify which
> drive, probably /dev/hda.

Files systems have ID types that are labeled as numbers/letters. A swap
type is one designation (sorry I don't remember them off the top of my
head) and FAT32 has another type and the labels are all different. What
the other poster was trying to get at was that under XP it might not have
the ID that XP expects and that is why XP isn't "working" correctly.
I am not familiar with the distibution you are using but I did have a couple
of other questions that might shed some light:

1. what is the size and order of the hds and the master/slave config
of the drives in your system?
2 did the system have xp on it first (I assume so) when you added linux?
3. did you addd the third hd just before you added linux?
4. did XP "see" the hd with the fat32 partition before you added linux?

I know that some partition managers have the option to list all of the
partitioin types it supports. If you do a help function, it may tell you
what that command is to list them.

later,
charles.....

"Joe B." <herzbua@rogers.com> writes:

> Bill Marcum wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:22:05 -0400, Joe B. <herzbua@rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm very new in Linux, just dl and installed Freespire (Debian
>>> based) a few days ago. So far so good, small problems but it works
>>> great, lots to learn.
>>> But there is one problem bugging me. I've 3 Hds, one NTFS for XP,
>>> one for Linux and one, fat 32, As a Bridge. Thais one is detected
>>> by XP as active and healthy, but no program can see it, not in my
>>> computer or elsewhere. It works in Linux, no problem. The only
>>> option in the XP disk manager is delete Partition, I rather do it
>>> not :-).
>>> Please help me, any help is very much appreciated.
>>> Greetings, Joe.
>>>
>> In Linux "fdisk -l", what is the ID of the FAT32 partition?
>>
> Hi and thank you,
> here is what it shows:
>> Here DISK is something like /dev/hdb or /dev/sda
>> and PARTITION is something like /dev/hda7
>> -u: give Start and End in sector (instead of cylinder) units
>> -b 2048: (for certain MO disks) use 2048-byte sectors
>> jberger@Joecomputer:/mnt/dos$
> No idea what it means, no idea about Linux, but i hope it tells you
> something.
> Greetings, Joe.

Use cut & paste.

It is "fdisk -l" where "l" is "el" or lower case "L".

"man fdisk"

for more information.

Bill Marcum wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:22:05 -0400, Joe B.
> <herzbua@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>>
> In Linux "fdisk -l", what is the ID of the FAT32 partition?
>
Hi bill and Charles,
thank you very much. Yes, Charles I had XP on the system before
Freespire, Yes, the HD in question was there before as well and worked
fine.Here is what fdisk shows:
> Disk /dev/hdd: 8700 MB, 8700346368 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1057 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hdd1 * 1 1057 8490321 83 Linux
I hope that's better small cap L looks too much like 1 and I'm an newbie
in Linux (curious how long this excuse will work :-), but I've got the
next one in my drawer, I'm getting old :-).
Thank you once more,
Joe.

"Joe B." <herzbua@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> Bill Marcum wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:22:05 -0400, Joe B.
> > <herzbua@rogers.com> wrote:
> >>
> > In Linux "fdisk -l", what is the ID of the FAT32 partition?
> >
> Hi bill and Charles,
> thank you very much. Yes, Charles I had XP on the system before
> Freespire, Yes, the HD in question was there before as well and worked
> fine.Here is what fdisk shows:
> > Disk /dev/hdd: 8700 MB, 8700346368 bytes
> > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1057 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> >
> > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> > /dev/hdd1 * 1 1057 8490321 83 Linux
> I hope that's better small cap L looks too much like 1 and I'm an newbie
> in Linux (curious how long this excuse will work :-), but I've got the
> next one in my drawer, I'm getting old :-).
> Thank you once more,
> Joe.

The ID listed above is NOT recognized by XP. If it was the one
that was supposedly FAT32 something got changed. In the
computer world Windows dosn't have to make itself compatible
with anyone else, Linux has to make itself compatible with
Windows. Somehow I would figure out how to read and copy
the stuff that Windows can not see now onto another media
like DVD or another hard drive. Then reformat the partition
under Windows so it can see it again and copy the stuff back to
the new configuration. With Windows one is stuck with only
two file formats: FAT32 and NTFS for the moment for big drives.

later,
charles.....

On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 16:45 +0000, ***** charles wrote:
> "Joe B." <herzbua@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:ecb04c$r40$1@news.albasani.net...
> >
> > Bill Marcum wrote:
> > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:22:05 -0400, Joe B.
> > > <herzbua@rogers.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > > In Linux "fdisk -l", what is the ID of the FAT32 partition?
> > >
> > Hi bill and Charles,
> > thank you very much. Yes, Charles I had XP on the system before
> > Freespire, Yes, the HD in question was there before as well and worked
> > fine.Here is what fdisk shows:
> > > Disk /dev/hdd: 8700 MB, 8700346368 bytes
> > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1057 cylinders
> > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> > >
> > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> > > /dev/hdd1 * 1 1057 8490321 83 Linux
> > I hope that's better small cap L looks too much like 1 and I'm an newbie
> > in Linux (curious how long this excuse will work :-), but I've got the
> > next one in my drawer, I'm getting old :-).
> > Thank you once more,
> > Joe.
>
> The ID listed above is NOT recognized by XP. If it was the one
> that was supposedly FAT32 something got changed. In the
> computer world Windows dosn't have to make itself compatible
> with anyone else, Linux has to make itself compatible with
> Windows. Somehow I would figure out how to read and copy
> the stuff that Windows can not see now onto another media
> like DVD or another hard drive. Then reformat the partition
> under Windows so it can see it again and copy the stuff back to
> the new configuration. With Windows one is stuck with only
> two file formats: FAT32 and NTFS for the moment for big drives.
>
Are you sure that hdd1 is meant to be an XP accessible partition?
I would guess that hda1 is more common (assuming XP was loaded before
Linux).

For a list of what that 2 digit number (83=linux) means, see
http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partition...n_types-1.html

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Jeremy Boden