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Old 01-19-2008, 08:41 AM
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: MULTILEVEL MARKETING (snip)" slrn scoring help needed

Horton heard a Who named multilevel@marketing.com saying:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MULTILEVEL MARKETING SPAMBLOCK OF 'INTERNET WISE GUY, MACON GEORGIA USA'
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> bulk emailing is completely legal!! method for to advertising multilevel
> marketing opportunities, and all such ' spam fighters ' who interfere in
> violation of usa FREE SPEECH laws. one who is such 'spam fighter' using
> name of the 'internet wise guy, macon georgia usa' has ILLEGALLY engage
> in restraint of trade interfered with legitimate business ventures. we
> demand that ''internet wise guy, macon georgia usa'' reveal the identity
> so we can serve important papers regarding restraint of a trade lawsuit!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

<snip>
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> our customers are happy to see arival our emails, plus many of them have
> reached financial independence through the multilevel marketing. IS NOT
> as this 'internet wise guy, macon georgia usa' claims a PYRAMID SCHEME!!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

<snip>

Needs to improve his English.

BTW, it's my privilege to ignore free speech as I chose.

Anyone know how to limit, score against, x-posting with slrn's score file? The
FAQ explains howto cross-post, but I see nothing where to control/limit seeing
the number of cross-posted articles. I'd like to set the number at two. If it's
not possible, how about catch phrases, such as "marketing"? Here's my current
score file:

% Below is my general filtering.
%BOS[*]
Score: -9999
Xref: advocacy
Xref: windows
Xref: conspiracy
Xref: flame
Xref: kook
Xref: microsoft
Xref: politics
Xref: \<alt\.religion\.jehovahs-witn
Xref: \<rec\.ponds[^.]
Xref: \<soc\.culture\.jewish
Xref: \<soc\.singles
Xref: wrestling

%EOS

%BOS
% specifically rejected newsgroups
% since the general filter doesn't
% always catch them
Score: -9999
Newsgroups: advocacy
Newsgroups: windows
%EOS

%BOS
% kills all "test" posts not in a *test NG
[~*.test]
Score: -9999
Subject: ^test$
%EOS

%BOS
% Interested in slrn articles only
[news.software.readers]
Score: 9999
Subject: slrn
%EOS


%BOS
% scoring for ONLY 'slrn' posts in listed NG
% and discard all others
[news.software.readers]
Score: -9999
~Subject:^slrn$
%EOS

Thank you,
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:41 AM
Mark South
 
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Default Re: MULTILEVEL MARKETING (snip)" slrn scoring help needed

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:05:56 -0500, sk8r-365 wrote:

> Anyone know how to limit, score against, x-posting with slrn's score file? The
> FAQ explains howto cross-post, but I see nothing where to control/limit seeing
> the number of cross-posted articles. I'd like to set the number at two.


I don't know the answer with slrn, but it's really easy to do with
leafnode.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: (snip) slrn scoring help needed

Horton heard a Who named Mark South saying:
> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:05:56 -0500, sk8r-365 wrote:
>
>> Anyone know how to limit, score against, x-posting with slrn's score file? The
>> FAQ explains howto cross-post, but I see nothing where to control/limit seeing
>> the number of cross-posted articles. I'd like to set the number at two.

>
> I don't know the answer with slrn, but it's really easy to do with
> leafnode.


I have it figured out - filtering by keyword ... of course, when I apply it I
won't see further messages for this post due to word matching; which would have
included this reply, except that I changed the Subject so as to *not* have a
match:
[*] % filter for all NG
Score: -9999 % absolute death of article
Subject: market % any match of this word and _poof_ !

Thanks for reminding me of leafnode's method, Mark!
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:41 AM
Moe Trin
 
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Default Re: (snip) slrn scoring help needed

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.debian, in article
<mqydnSiXEbufAZ_anZ2dnUVZ_rSinZ2d@bresnan.com>, sk8r-365 wrote:

>Horton heard a Who named Mark South saying:


>> sk8r-365 wrote:


>>> Anyone know how to limit, score against, x-posting with slrn's score
>>> file? The FAQ explains howto cross-post, but I see nothing where to
>>> control/limit seeing the number of cross-posted articles. I'd like
>>> to set the number at two.


That's a bit on the low side. For _most_ of the 84 groups I try to scan
daily, I allow up to 4 groups. OK, inexpensive killing of cross-posts:

% When a newsreader contacts the newsserver, it requests a so-called Xover,
%which gives a subset of the headers for the requested article. Headers
%present in this list include From:, Subject:, References:, Date:, Bytes:,
%Lines:, Message-ID: and Xref:. Newsreaders use this to compose their
%header list, and to perform threading. OTHER headers can be queried
%from the server, but this is expensive and should be avoided over the
%Internet.
%
%Killfile rules based on these headers can be implemented quite efficiently,
%since this information has to be requested for normal operation anyway.

so given the choice of 'From:', 'Subject:', 'References:', 'Date:',
'Bytes:', 'Lines:', 'Message-ID': and 'Xref:':

-----
From: sk8r-365 <sk8r-365@sk8r.debian.etch.invalid.org>
Subject: Re: (snip) slrn scoring help needed
References: <0aadnfMN8ZJErZ_aRVn_vwA@giganews.com>
<QNadnUok1aOp35_anZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
<47025d2e$1_4@news.bluewin.ch>
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:29:06 -0500
Bytes: 2115
Lines: 25
Message-ID: <mqydnSiXEbufAZ_anZ2dnUVZ_rSinZ2d@bresnan.com>
Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.os.linux.debian:7519
-----

the latter is the only one with any indication of newsgroup. From
another posting today in another newsgroup:

-----
Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com news.announce.newgroups:6172
news.groups:430617 news.groups.proposals:3031
-----

you said two groups are OK? Try

Xref: :.*:.*:

which should kill posts where the Xref: header contains three colons.

>> I don't know the answer with slrn, but it's really easy to do with
>> leafnode.


but no hints?

>I have it figured out - filtering by keyword ... of course, when I
>apply it I won't see further messages for this post due to word
>matching; which would have included this reply, except that I changed
>the Subject so as to *not* have a match:


which is why filtering by keyword isn't the solution _here_ (for the
problem of cross-posters).

>[*] % filter for all NG
>Score: -9999 % absolute death of article


Score: =-9999 %kill it, and don't bother searching for more score terms

According to the 'changes' file, that mode was included way back in
slrn-0.8.0. You may also want to think about 'Score:' verses 'Score::'.
The single colon is a logical AND indicator so all conditions/rules for
that score have to be true. The double colon is a logical OR indicator,
and _any_ condition/rule that matches sets the score.

>Subject: market % any match of this word and _poof_ !


[compton ~]$ grep -vE '^([%\[ ]|Score|$)' /var/spool/slrnpull/score | cut
-d' ' -f1 | sort | uniq -c | column
899 From: 7 Message-ID: 78 Xref:
2 Lines: 282 Subject: 2 ~Subject:
[compton ~]$

Imagine what that would look like if I were grumpy instead of my nice
cheery disposition. (That also is an indication why I use the '=' in
score values.)

Old guy
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: MULTILEVEL MARKETING SPAMBLOCK OF 'INTERNET WISE GUY, MACON GEORGIA USA''

multilevel@marketing.com wrote:

>
>
>
> - - - - - - < BLEEP BLEEP > - - - - - - -


Hey, RM: when did you sign up with Giganews?

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sk8r-365
 
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Default Re: (snip) slrn scoring help needed

Horton heard a Who named Moe Trin saying:
> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.debian, in article
> <mqydnSiXEbufAZ_anZ2dnUVZ_rSinZ2d@bresnan.com>, sk8r-365 wrote:
>
>>Horton heard a Who named Mark South saying:

>
>>> sk8r-365 wrote:

>
>>>> Anyone know how to limit, score against, x-posting with slrn's score
>>>> file? The FAQ explains howto cross-post, but I see nothing where to
>>>> control/limit seeing the number of cross-posted articles. I'd like
>>>> to set the number at two.

>
> That's a bit on the low side. For _most_ of the 84 groups I try to scan
> daily, I allow up to 4 groups. OK, inexpensive killing of cross-posts:


84!? Holy smokes. I have time for 3 groups. I'm so busy I have to
be draconian about x-posting limits. BTW, on the matter of killing
posts and expense; way I had it getting articles was very
slowwwwwww.

> % When a newsreader contacts the newsserver, it requests a so-called Xover,

<snip good explanations>

>
> you said two groups are OK? Try
>
> Xref: :.*:.*:
>
> which should kill posts where the Xref: header contains three colons.



Now that's working and is F-A-S-T!

<snip>

> Imagine what that would look like if I were grumpy instead of my nice
> cheery disposition. (That also is an indication why I use the '=' in
> score values.)


You're a nicer guy than I !

Here's my faster score file (thanks to you), but I have to set each item
separately; for an unknown reason grouping isn't getting it:


%BOS
[*]
Score: =-9999
Xref: advocacy[*]
Score: =-9999
Xref: windows[*]
Score: =-9999
Xref: conspiracy[*]
Score: =-9999
Xref: flame[*]
Score: =-9999
Xref: kook[*]
Score: =-9999
Xref: microsoft[*]
Score: =-9999
Xref: politics

% limits x-posting max 2 groups[*]
Score: =-9999
Xref: :.*:.*:


% kills all "test" posts not in a *test NG
[~*.test]
Score: =-9999
Subject: ^test$

% Interested in all slrn articles;
% need to test for redundancy with this
% and the next filter
[news.software.readers]
Score: 9999
Subject: slrn


% scoring for ONLY 'slrn' posts in listed NG
% and discard all others
[news.software.readers]
Score: -9999
~Subject:^slrn$

% limits message size in max bytes;
% if it can't be said in about 400 lines
% there's to much yapping, it's a binary
% or unneeded text is not being snipped
Score: =-9999
Bytes: 14700


% handles those get rich schemes with "$" in Subject[*]
Score: =-9999
Subject:^\$\

%EOS


Thanks for your time!!

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Moe Trin
 
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Default Re: (snip) slrn scoring help needed

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.debian, in article
<FO6dnU2DxIfBupjanZ2dnUVZ_q-jnZ2d@bresnan.com>, sk8r-365 wrote:

>Horton heard a Who named Moe Trin saying:


>> That's a bit on the low side. For _most_ of the 84 groups I try to
>> scan daily, I allow up to 4 groups.


>84!? Holy smokes. I have time for 3 groups. I'm so busy I have to
>be draconian about x-posting limits. BTW, on the matter of killing
>posts and expense; way I had it getting articles was very
>slowwwwwww.


There's a difference between _reading_ a newsgroup and scanning it.
That's the reason all of the netiquette guidelines and FAQs suggest
using a descriptive subject line. For more than half of the posts to
Usenet, the Subject: line - in fact, only the first 40 characters -
is probably all I'm going to see. The 'n' and 'c' keys get a lot of
use when looking at Usenet.

Actually, 84 groups isn't that bad, as _usually_ only about 45 have
any posts at all, and many of the groups don't even get double-digit
numbers of posts daily (heck, some don't even do that in a month). A
more accurate measure is the total article counts, and that has been
running around 5-600 per day before the news _reader_ (as opposed to
slrnpull) starts killing things.

>> you said two groups are OK? Try
>>
>> Xref: :.*:.*:
>>
>> which should kill posts where the Xref: header contains three colons.

>
>Now that's working and is F-A-S-T!


Glad to help.

>Here's my faster score file (thanks to you), but I have to set each item
>separately; for an unknown reason grouping isn't getting it:


>[*]
>Score: =-9999
> Xref: advocacy
>[*]
>Score: =-9999
> Xref: windows


[snip]
[*]
Score:: =-9999
Xref: advocacy
Xref: windows
Xref: conspiracy
Xref: flame
Xref: kook
Xref: microsoft
Xref: politics
Xref: :.*:.*:

Two colons on the score line, not one.

>% kills all "test" posts not in a *test NG


I kill them all, along with

Score: =-9999
Subject: don
Subject: read

Here, the single colon says this score only applies to posts where the
subject line includes BOTH the string 'don' and 'read'.

>% limits message size in max bytes;
>% if it can't be said in about 400 lines
>% there's to much yapping, it's a binary
>% or unneeded text is not being snipped
>Score: =-9999
> Bytes: 14700


Score:: =-9999
Bytes: 14700
Lines: 400

Again, two colons on the score line to logically _OR_ the conditions.

Actually, I put an exception for several groups where I know there will
occasionally be some longer posts - such as the monthly posting to
news.announce.newgroups (and news.groups and news.lists.misc) of the
list of sanctioned Big Eight newsgroups (~2310 lines).

>Thanks for your time!!


Glad to be able to help!

Old guy
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Default Re: (snip) slrn scoring help needed

Horton heard a Who named Moe Trin saying:
> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux.debian, in article
> <FO6dnU2DxIfBupjanZ2dnUVZ_q-jnZ2d@bresnan.com>, sk8r-365 wrote:

<snip>
>
>>Here's my faster score file (thanks to you), but I have to set each item
>>separately; for an unknown reason grouping isn't getting it:

>
>>[*]
>>Score: =-9999
>> Xref: advocacy
>>[*]
>>Score: =-9999
>> Xref: windows

>
> [snip]
>
>[*]
> Score:: =-9999
> Xref: advocacy
> Xref: windows
> Xref: conspiracy
> Xref: flame
> Xref: kook
> Xref: microsoft
> Xref: politics
> Xref: :.*:.*:
>
> Two colons on the score line, not one.

<snip>

>>% limits message size in max bytes;
>>% if it can't be said in about 400 lines
>>% there's to much yapping, it's a binary
>>% or unneeded text is not being snipped
>>Score: =-9999
>> Bytes: 14700

>
> Score:: =-9999
> Bytes: 14700
> Lines: 400
>
> Again, two colons on the score line to logically _OR_ the conditions.


I understand now! Getting to _love_ the "::" usage. slrn is wonderful. Hope it's
never abandoned.

Again, OG of the MT, your help has been invaluable - thank you.

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