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Old 01-19-2008, 07:51 AM
Mumia W.
 
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Default no direct rendering with via (s3) unichrome and XFree86 4.3.0.1

I can't seem to get direct rendering working. Here is my system info:

Linux 2.6.17.1
Debian 3.1r2.
XFree86 4.3.0.1
Relevant PCI info:
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown
device 3108 (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 1828
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: <available only to root>

The file pci.ids says that device 3108 is an S3 Unichrome Pro VGA
Adapter. I think the 'via' module supports this.

This is what I did to try to get DRM working on my system:

** modprobe via
** Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and change this:

> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Generic Video Card"
> Driver "vesa"
> EndSection

to this:
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Generic Video Card"
> Driver "via"
> EndSection


When I did the "modprobe via," dmesg said this:
> [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
> [drm] Initialized via 2.7.4 20051116 on minor 0


And lsmod shows that drm and via are loaded.

But when I try to start X, it aborts with the message "(EE) no devices
detected."

How do I get my hardware to do DRI?

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Old 01-19-2008, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: no direct rendering with via (s3) unichrome and XFree86 4.3.0.1

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:26:49 GMT, Mumia W. wrote:

>> Section "Device"
>> Identifier "Generic Video Card"
>> Driver "via"
>> EndSection


>> [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102
>> ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
>> [drm] Initialized via 2.7.4 20051116 on minor 0

>
> But when I try to start X, it aborts with the message "(EE) no devices
> detected."
> How do I get my hardware to do DRI?


have you got
Load "dri"
in the Section "Module" of your xorg.conf/XF86whatever.conf?


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Mumia W.
 
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Default Re: no direct rendering with via (s3) unichrome and XFree86 4.3.0.1

gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:26:49 GMT, Mumia W. wrote:
>
>>> Section "Device"
>>> Identifier "Generic Video Card"
>>> Driver "via"
>>> EndSection

>
>>> [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102
>>> ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
>>> [drm] Initialized via 2.7.4 20051116 on minor 0

>> But when I try to start X, it aborts with the message "(EE) no devices
>> detected."
>> How do I get my hardware to do DRI?

>
> have you got
> Load "dri"
> in the Section "Module" of your xorg.conf/XF86whatever.conf?
>
>
> gregor


yes

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Old 01-19-2008, 07:51 AM
Jacob Tranholm
 
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Default Re: no direct rendering with via (s3) unichrome and XFree86 4.3.0.1

Mumia W. skrev:
> I can't seem to get direct rendering working. Here is my system info:
>
> Linux 2.6.17.1
> Debian 3.1r2.
> XFree86 4.3.0.1
> Relevant PCI info:
> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown
> device 3108 (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
> Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 1828
> Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
> Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
> Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
> Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=64K]
> Capabilities: <available only to root>
>
> The file pci.ids says that device 3108 is an S3 Unichrome Pro VGA
> Adapter. I think the 'via' module supports this.
>
> This is what I did to try to get DRM working on my system:
>
> ** modprobe via
> ** Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and change this:
>
>> Section "Device"
>> Identifier "Generic Video Card"
>> Driver "vesa"
>> EndSection

> to this:
>> Section "Device"
>> Identifier "Generic Video Card"
>> Driver "via"
>> EndSection

>
> When I did the "modprobe via," dmesg said this:
>> [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102
>> ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level,
>> low) -> IRQ 10
>> [drm] Initialized via 2.7.4 20051116 on minor 0

>
> And lsmod shows that drm and via are loaded.
>
> But when I try to start X, it aborts with the message "(EE) no devices
> detected."
>
> How do I get my hardware to do DRI?
>


I also have a VIA S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter at my notebook, and I had
a lot of problems configuring it some time ago. But then X.org 6.9.0 was
released... And I have just been using the default via-driver since
then. So my advise is to install a backported version of X.org 6.9.0,
which should be available by adding the following lines to your
sources.list:

-----
deb http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/li...org-6.8.99.15/ sarge
main
deb-src http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/li...org-6.8.99.15/
sarge main
-----

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Old 01-19-2008, 07:51 AM
Mumia W.
 
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Default Re: no direct rendering with via (s3) unichrome and XFree86 4.3.0.1

Jacob Tranholm wrote:
> Mumia W. skrev:
>> I can't seem to get direct rendering working.
>> [...]

>
> I also have a VIA S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter at my notebook, and I had
> a lot of problems configuring it some time ago. But then X.org 6.9.0 was
> released... And I have just been using the default via-driver since
> then. So my advise is to install a backported version of X.org 6.9.0,
> which should be available by adding the following lines to your
> sources.list:
>
> -----
> deb http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/li...org-6.8.99.15/ sarge
> main
> deb-src http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/li...org-6.8.99.15/
> sarge main
> -----
>


Thanks Jacob.

Will xorg replace my entire xfree86?
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Jacob Tranholm
 
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Default Re: no direct rendering with via (s3) unichrome and XFree86 4.3.0.1

Mumia W. skrev:
>
> Thanks Jacob.
>
> Will xorg replace my entire xfree86?


I must admit, it has been quite a while since my last update from
xfree86 to xorg. But as I remember you can add the sources to you
'sources.list', make an 'apt-get update' and an 'apt-get dist-upgrade',
and then your xfree86 is replaced by xorg.

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Favourite quote: "Observation statements and statements of experimental
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Mumia W.
 
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Default Re: no direct rendering with via (s3) unichrome and XFree86 4.3.0.1

Jacob Tranholm wrote:
> Mumia W. skrev:
>> Thanks Jacob.
>>
>> Will xorg replace my entire xfree86?

>
> I must admit, it has been quite a while since my last update from
> xfree86 to xorg. But as I remember you can add the sources to you
> 'sources.list', make an 'apt-get update' and an 'apt-get dist-upgrade',
> and then your xfree86 is replaced by xorg.
>


Thanks, I'll think about doing that.

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Old 01-19-2008, 07:52 AM
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Mumia W. wrote:
> I can't seem to get direct rendering working. Here is my system info:
>
> Linux 2.6.17.1
> Debian 3.1r2.
> XFree86 4.3.0.1
> Relevant PCI info:
> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown
> device 3108 (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
> Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 1828
> Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
> Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
> Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
> Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=64K]
> Capabilities: <available only to root>
>
> The file pci.ids says that device 3108 is an S3 Unichrome Pro VGA
> Adapter. I think the 'via' module supports this.


hmm..I'm using
~$ uname -a
Linux sarge 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
Debian 3.1r1 - and while you certainly have a newer kernel than I .

I'm using 4.3.0.1 too;
~$ X -version

XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (Debian 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 20050901212727
fjp@localhost.localdomain)
Release Date: 15 August 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.8-16.0508-2 i686 [ELF]
Build Date: 02 September 2005
[...]

Funny this; in my /usr/share/misc/pci.ids ...and I use "Find"
function, there's no mention of *3108* being there;
This is what I have in that file;
===========================================
[...]
# S3 Graphics UniChrome 2D/3D Graphics with motion compensation
7205 VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video
1458 d000 GA-7VM400M Motherboard
8231 VT8231 [PCI-to-ISA Bridge]
8235 VT8235 ACPI
8305 VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
8391 VT8371 [KX133 AGP]
8501 VT8501 [Apollo MVP4 AGP]
8596 VT82C596 [Apollo PRO AGP]
8597 VT82C597 [Apollo VP3 AGP]
8598 VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP]
1019 0985 P6VXA Motherboard
8601 VT8601 [Apollo ProMedia AGP]
8605 VT8605 [PM133 AGP]
8691 VT82C691 [Apollo Pro]
8693 VT82C693 [Apollo Pro Plus] PCI Bridge
b091 VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]
b099 VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP]
b101 VT8653 AGP Bridge
b102 VT8362 AGP Bridge
b103 VT8615 AGP Bridge
b112 VT8361 [KLE133] AGP Bridge
b168 VT8235 PCI Bridge
b188 VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800 South]
b198 VT8237 PCI Bridge
[...]
=====================================

Also;
Notice how your "lspci -v" output says "unknown device 1308" and
there's not even any 1828 listing in my pci.ids file for anything - but
perhaps my file is older ? and besides it shouldn't matter much for
this discussion, but keep these things in mind.

For ex; My 'sudo lspci -vv' yields a funky reading for my Nvidia AGP
tnt2 card;
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA
TNT2/TNT2 Pro] (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 0003
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
>TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-

Latency: 64 (1250ns min, 250ns max)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
[size=16M]
Region 1: Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0
Status: RQ=32 Iso- ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ ITACoh- GART64-
HTrans- 64bit- FW- AGP3- Rate=x1,x2,x4
Command: RQ=1 ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA- AGP- GART64- 64bit-
FW- Rate=<none>


Note the;
Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 0003

Ensoniq is my Chipset onboard SoundBlaster -- go figure --anyways,
supposedly nVidia's don't do/use DRI, or DRM (atleast the older one
like I have)...I recall reading that in an article about configuring X,
and /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

Here's some output of that file;
======================
[...]
Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro]"
Driver "nv"
VideoRam 32000
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "LCD1735NXM"
HorizSync 31-81
VertRefresh 56-75
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
[...]
======================

I left the Monitor stuff in there, just in case you need to
reconfigure....which brings me to;
You should be able to run this;

'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfreee86'

to completely reconfigure the setup (Video, Monitor, Mouse, Keyboard,
etc - all XF86Config-4 entries) -- the '-plow' (Priority Low) option
means to ask/present you with the smallest detailed questions possible
-- just leave it off (exclude it), if you don't want it that intricate.
But in ther you should be able to add/subtract 'dri' and 'drm' support
if you desire it.

> This is what I did to try to get DRM working on my system:
>
> ** modprobe via
> ** Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and change this:
>
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier "Generic Video Card"
> > Driver "vesa"
> > EndSection

> to this:
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier "Generic Video Card"
> > Driver "via"
> > EndSection

>
> When I did the "modprobe via," dmesg said this:
> > [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102
> > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
> > [drm] Initialized via 2.7.4 20051116 on minor 0


Is this an AGP card? -- or likely this is an Onboard Chipset?
Do you have AGP support -- now mine is Intel's, but yours would be the
VIA equivalent;
~$ lsmod | grep -i agp
intel_agp 20512 1
agpgart 31784 1 intel_agp


> And lsmod shows that drm and via are loaded.
>
> But when I try to start X, it aborts with the message "(EE) no devices
> detected."
>
> How do I get my hardware to do DRI?


We're trying ;-)

Regards

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Old 01-19-2008, 07:52 AM
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Mumia W. wrote:
> I can't seem to get direct rendering working. Here is my system info:
>
> Linux 2.6.17.1
> Debian 3.1r2.
> XFree86 4.3.0.1
> Relevant PCI info:
> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown
> device 3108 (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
> Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems: Unknown device 1828
> Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
> Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
> Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
> Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=64K]
> Capabilities: <available only to root>
>
> The file pci.ids says that device 3108 is an S3 Unichrome Pro VGA
> Adapter. I think the 'via' module supports this.


hmm..I'm using
~$ uname -a
Linux sarge 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
Debian 3.1r1 - and while you certainly have a newer kernel than I .

I'm using 4.3.0.1 too;
~$ X -version

XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (Debian 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 20050901212727
fjp@localhost.localdomain)
Release Date: 15 August 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.8-16.0508-2 i686 [ELF]
Build Date: 02 September 2005
[...]

Funny this; in my /usr/share/misc/pci.ids ...and I use "Find"
function, there's no mention of *3108* being there;
This is what I have in that file;
===========================================
[...]
# S3 Graphics UniChrome 2D/3D Graphics with motion compensation
7205 VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video
1458 d000 GA-7VM400M Motherboard
8231 VT8231 [PCI-to-ISA Bridge]
8235 VT8235 ACPI
8305 VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
8391 VT8371 [KX133 AGP]
8501 VT8501 [Apollo MVP4 AGP]
8596 VT82C596 [Apollo PRO AGP]
8597 VT82C597 [Apollo VP3 AGP]
8598 VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP]
1019 0985 P6VXA Motherboard
8601 VT8601 [Apollo ProMedia AGP]
8605 VT8605 [PM133 AGP]
8691 VT82C691 [Apollo Pro]
8693 VT82C693 [Apollo Pro Plus] PCI Bridge
b091 VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]
b099 VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP]
b101 VT8653 AGP Bridge
b102 VT8362 AGP Bridge
b103 VT8615 AGP Bridge
b112 VT8361 [KLE133] AGP Bridge
b168 VT8235 PCI Bridge
b188 VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800 South]
b198 VT8237 PCI Bridge
[...]
=====================================

Also;
Notice how your "lspci -v" output says "unknown device 1308" and
there's not even any 1828 listing in my pci.ids file for anything - but
perhaps my file is older ? and besides it shouldn't matter much for
this discussion, but keep these things in mind.

For ex; My 'sudo lspci -vv' yields a funky reading for my Nvidia AGP
tnt2 card;
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA
TNT2/TNT2 Pro] (rev 11) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 0003
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
>TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-

Latency: 64 (1250ns min, 250ns max)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
[size=16M]
Region 1: Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0
Status: RQ=32 Iso- ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ ITACoh- GART64-
HTrans- 64bit- FW- AGP3- Rate=x1,x2,x4
Command: RQ=1 ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA- AGP- GART64- 64bit-
FW- Rate=<none>


Note the;
Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 0003

Ensoniq is my Chipset onboard SoundBlaster -- go figure --anyways,
supposedly nVidia's don't do/use DRI, or DRM (atleast the older one
like I have)...I recall reading that in an article about configuring X,
and /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

Here's some output of that file;
======================
[...]
Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro]"
Driver "nv"
VideoRam 32000
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "LCD1735NXM"
HorizSync 31-81
VertRefresh 56-75
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
[...]
======================

I left the Monitor stuff in there, just in case you need to
reconfigure....which brings me to;
You should be able to run this;

'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfreee86'

to completely reconfigure the setup (Video, Monitor, Mouse, Keyboard,
etc - all XF86Config-4 entries) -- the '-plow' (Priority Low) option
means to ask/present you with the smallest detailed questions possible
-- just leave it off (exclude it), if you don't want it that intricate.
But in ther you should be able to add/subtract 'dri' and 'drm' support
if you desire it.

> This is what I did to try to get DRM working on my system:
>
> ** modprobe via
> ** Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and change this:
>
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier "Generic Video Card"
> > Driver "vesa"
> > EndSection

> to this:
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier "Generic Video Card"
> > Driver "via"
> > EndSection

>
> When I did the "modprobe via," dmesg said this:
> > [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102
> > ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
> > [drm] Initialized via 2.7.4 20051116 on minor 0


Is this an AGP card? -- or likely this is an Onboard Chipset?
Do you have AGP support -- now mine is Intel's, but yours would be the
VIA equivalent;
~$ lsmod | grep -i agp
intel_agp 20512 1
agpgart 31784 1 intel_agp


> And lsmod shows that drm and via are loaded.
>
> But when I try to start X, it aborts with the message "(EE) no devices
> detected."
>
> How do I get my hardware to do DRI?


We're trying ;-)

Regards

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Old 01-19-2008, 07:52 AM
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Mumia W. wrote:
> Jacob Tranholm wrote:
> > Mumia W. skrev:
> >> Thanks Jacob.
> >>
> >> Will xorg replace my entire xfree86?

> >
> > I must admit, it has been quite a while since my last update from
> > xfree86 to xorg. But as I remember you can add the sources to you
> > 'sources.list', make an 'apt-get update' and an 'apt-get dist-upgrade',
> > and then your xfree86 is replaced by xorg.
> >

>
> Thanks, I'll think about doing that.


If you do actually do that you'll be doing a complete dist-upgrade to
"Testing" (...or even the lesser "upgrade" posted by Jacob Tranholm
earlier, will likely upgrade 'X' only, and it's components, but may
break a few things too) -- Either way, see this;
<http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7>

Regards

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