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Old 01-19-2008, 09:35 AM
Pete
 
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Since synaptic is the only way I know to install/uninstall software, is it
automatically included in the major distributions? Which besides Debian and
Ubuntu?
-Pete


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Old 01-19-2008, 09:35 AM
Patrick Lions
 
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Pete schrieb:
> Since synaptic is the only way I know to install/uninstall software, is it
> automatically included in the major distributions? Which besides Debian and
> Ubuntu?
> -Pete


whats about aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast, rpm, smart, zen-installer,
KPackager? Do you know these ones? I dont even use synaptic. Synaptic is
only included in Debian based Distributions.
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:35 AM
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"Patrick Lions" <patrick.lions@mail.ru> wrote in message
news:f41j85$18r$01$1@news.t-online.com...
>
>
> Pete schrieb:
>> Since synaptic is the only way I know to install/uninstall software, is
>> it automatically included in the major distributions? Which besides
>> Debian and Ubuntu?
>> -Pete

>
> whats about aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast, rpm, smart, zen-installer,
> KPackager? Do you know these ones? I dont even use synaptic. Synaptic is
> only included in Debian based Distributions.


Sh*t, I guess I'm stuck with Debian and Ubuntu.

ps:
I speak all languages except Greek, and aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast,
rpm, smart, zen-installer, KPackager are Greek to me. :-)


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Old 01-19-2008, 09:35 AM
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After takin' a swig o' grog, Pete belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> "Patrick Lions" <patrick.lions@mail.ru> wrote in message
>
>>> Since synaptic is the only way I know to install/uninstall software, is
>>> it automatically included in the major distributions? Which besides
>>> Debian and Ubuntu?
>>> -Pete

>>
>> whats about aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast, rpm, smart, zen-installer,
>> KPackager? Do you know these ones? I dont even use synaptic. Synaptic is
>> only included in Debian based Distributions.

>
> Sh*t, I guess I'm stuck with Debian and Ubuntu.
>
> ps:
> I speak all languages except Greek, and aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast,
> rpm, smart, zen-installer, KPackager are Greek to me. :-)


aptitude is a text-box based version of synaptic, very useful over a
remote connection where you don't want to run a gui (though I use it
locally, too).

Try dselect sometime -- that one takes a lot of getting used to!!!

I would definitely read up on apt-get, though. Sometimes the command
line will really help you out in a pinch.

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Old 01-19-2008, 09:35 AM
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On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:58:52 -0400, Pete wrote:

>> whats about aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast, rpm, smart, zen-installer,
>> KPackager? Do you know these ones? I dont even use synaptic. Synaptic is
>> only included in Debian based Distributions.


> Sh*t, I guess I'm stuck with Debian and Ubuntu.


Ummmm, yeah, OK.

> ps:
> I speak all languages except Greek, and aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast,
> rpm, smart, zen-installer, KPackager are Greek to me. :-)


That's because you're a clueless Win-droid.

> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028


See?

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Old 01-19-2008, 09:35 AM
Darren Salt
 
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I demand that Linonut may or may not have written...

> After takin' a swig o' grog, Pete belched out this bit o' wisdom:

[snip]
>> ps: I speak all languages except Greek, and aptitude, apt-get, adept,
>> yast, rpm, smart, zen-installer, KPackager are Greek to me. :-)


> aptitude is a text-box based version of synaptic, very useful over a remote
> connection where you don't want to run a gui (though I use it locally,
> too).


Hmm. Are you saying that synaptic now tracks which packages were installed
automatically and will remove them if no other installed packages need them?

> Try dselect sometime -- that one takes a lot of getting used to!!!


apt-get's nicer :-)

> I would definitely read up on apt-get, though. Sometimes the command line
> will really help you out in a pinch.


aptitude does that too (unless you want to download source or build
dependencies).

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Old 01-19-2008, 09:36 AM
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On Jun 4, 8:40 pm, Dan C <youmustbejok...@lan.invalid> wrote:

>
> That's because you're a clueless Win-droid.


Please ignore Dan C's attempts to start flame wares. Just ignore his
non-helpful comments.

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Old 01-19-2008, 09:36 AM
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On Jun 4, 8:11 pm, Linonut <lino...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Pete belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
>
>
> > "Patrick Lions" <patrick.li...@mail.ru> wrote in message

>
> >>> Since synaptic is the only way I know to install/uninstall software, is
> >>> it automatically included in the major distributions? Which besides
> >>> Debian and Ubuntu?
> >>> -Pete


Synaptic is based on apt, as other .deb-package installation tools
like apt-get, aptitude and dselect etc.
I only use aptitude and synaptics. I don't remember which debian
package tool is used by KDE.

By the way, there are more distibutions then Debian (original deb
distribution) and ubuntu that uses deb-packages.
So if you want to use synaptics, you still can chose another
distribution. As long as it isnt based on any other package format,
like rpm, tgz etc...

> >> whats about aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast, rpm, smart, zen-installer,
> >> KPackager? Do you know these ones? I dont even use synaptic. Synaptic is
> >> only included in Debian based Distributions.

>
> > Sh*t, I guess I'm stuck with Debian and Ubuntu.


This is why you use Debian-based distributions. Becouse of the
package system (and packing policy)

> aptitude is a text-box based version of synaptic, very useful over a
> remote connection where you don't want to run a gui (though I use it
> locally, too).
>
> Try dselect sometime -- that one takes a lot of getting used to!!!


I use aptitude as text based "graphical" system, but also as a more
modern veion of apt-get. So every where I see use of apt-get, I just
exchange it with aptitude. Works great.

You could use dselcet, but it is obsoleted by aptitude.

Good luck

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Old 01-19-2008, 09:36 AM
ray
 
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On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:58:52 -0400, Pete wrote:

>
> "Patrick Lions" <patrick.lions@mail.ru> wrote in message
> news:f41j85$18r$01$1@news.t-online.com...
>>
>>
>> Pete schrieb:
>>> Since synaptic is the only way I know to install/uninstall software, is
>>> it automatically included in the major distributions? Which besides
>>> Debian and Ubuntu?
>>> -Pete

>>
>> whats about aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast, rpm, smart, zen-installer,
>> KPackager? Do you know these ones? I dont even use synaptic. Synaptic is
>> only included in Debian based Distributions.

>
> Sh*t, I guess I'm stuck with Debian and Ubuntu.


No - it's included in other Debian derivatives, as well - Knoppix, Elive, . . .

>
> ps:
> I speak all languages except Greek, and aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast,
> rpm, smart, zen-installer, KPackager are Greek to me. :-)


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Old 01-19-2008, 09:37 AM
Rodney
 
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On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:58:52 -0400, Pete wrote:


> "Patrick Lions" <patrick.lions@mail.ru> wrote in message
> news:f41j85$18r$01$1@news.t-online.com...
>>
>>
>> Pete schrieb:
>>> Since synaptic is the only way I know to install/uninstall software,
>>> is it automatically included in the major distributions? Which besides
>>> Debian and Ubuntu?
>>> -Pete

>>
>> whats about aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast, rpm, smart, zen-installer,
>> KPackager? Do you know these ones? I dont even use synaptic. Synaptic
>> is only included in Debian based Distributions.

>
> Sh*t, I guess I'm stuck with Debian and Ubuntu.
>
> ps:
> I speak all languages except Greek, and aptitude, apt-get, adept, yast,
> rpm, smart, zen-installer, KPackager are Greek to me. :-)


Pete, dpkg is the package maintenance system for Debian GNU/Linux. Thus,
as someone has already mentioned, derivatives are likely going to have it
and some distros may even provide yet another front-end that is
specifically suited to the distro.

Apt is a front-end for dpkg to make installing and removing easier.
Aptitude, adept, synaptic are front-ends for apt, with the last two being
GUI, The DD's keep trying to make things easier for us. Kpackage is a KDE
GUI front-end that can do rpm's (i.e. Red Hat, Slackware packages) as well
as deb's without having to use alien separately on the package. Note: Lots
more information in the man pages for each front-end and they are in the
language of your choice.

As of the release of etch (Debian 4.0), aptitude is the recommended,
terminal-based front end to use for package management.

When you are using a GUI in X, there can be some danger when you try to
dist-upgrade or upgrade X itself. So, if you are going to continue with
Debian GNU/Linux it would be a good idea to become familiar with all of
them so you can choose which one works best for you in your situation.

Rodney
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