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User wrote:

> Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>
>>
>> They're not that cheap, and in a number of ways they're not that
>> reliable. There are a few high-end laptops that use it, and it's a big
>> improvement on start-up and shut-down times if you have a BIOS that also
>> knows how to be quick.
>
> This is kinda cheap:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820141349
> If you are referring to the 1GB intel turbo-ram offered on high-end
> laptops running vista this does not apply. I was babbling about
> installing the OS on a 4GB or 8GB ramdisk. The above link demonstrates
> that flash-mem prices are falling fast, so what is keeping the mb mfg's
> from hard-wiring it into the board itself?
>
All drives can eventually fail. I wouldn't want to have to rely on a flash
memory drive hardwired onto my mobo. Also, journaled file systems,
intensive logging, etc. would contributed to the decreased lifespan of such
a device.

Cheers.

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Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Francis (Frank) adds a new "gadget" to his Vista box ...
Download it here: http://tinyurl.com/2hnof6

Max Power wrote:
> A Unix / Linux / BSD fix I would like to see in the next 6 months:
> universal support for installing to USB drives (Live CDs / DVDs) ...

> 1. The preference for installing to USB should be paramount. The risk of
> wiping one's XP or Vista drive for most users is not worth it. Most of
> the user interfaces practically force wiping your HD by default. It
> should take several prompts (where you have to agree) to do this. There
> are not enough prompts around for this dangerous operation.

Although I have not tried those distros I can't imagine any distribution that
would force you to wipe of drive. You partition the drive before starting
installation. The only minor problem there is a common windows utility that
fills the drive from the lowest and highest sectors working toward the middle.
That has to be uninstalled before partitioning. You know you have it if the
partition tool reports the disk is full and you know it is not. You mention live
CDs. That should have one or more making it simple.

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I have downloaded Free BSD's 7.0 ISO's: the livefs that I put on to a CD-R
seems to only run in character mode and to want to install to HD.

>> A Unix / Linux / BSD fix I would like to see in the next 6 months:
>> universal support for installing to USB drives (Live CDs / DVDs) ...
> ================================================== =
> Well, both Debian and FreeBSD can easily be installed onto a usb drive,
> I have a FreeBSD system here on a usb drive, no hassle at all. This
> facility has been available for some time, it is really just down to what
> your pc will boot from.

I have no desire (or need) to wipe my Vista HD. I have 2 computers: one for
the computer project -- the other for home (day to day) use. My issue is
getting a working Vista X11 to MiniPC once it is working again. It is
unclear how I should do this, as the base ARRIS router and IP address
interface issues make a very simple issue very confusing (maybe because of
use of the same IP address). I may have to resort to Samba, if Samba is
supposed to be used in this way.

Wikipedia is unclear on what is the best overall (for PC's) Linux variant --
or BSD etc... but it appears that Debian may have better tools. However,
this project just requires a stable OS, with hopefully full hardware
support. Gparted sounds interesting, but I probably should stick to haveing
only one Linux OS on my MiniPC. I can use the USB & Flash workaround
instead.

>> 1. The preference for installing to USB should be paramount. The risk of
>> wiping one's XP or Vista drive for most users is not worth it. Most of
>> the user interfaces practically force wiping your HD by default. It
>> should take several prompts (where you have to agree) to do this. There
>> are not enough prompts around for this dangerous operation.
>============================================== If you install Debian, you
>will get gparted (a fairly sophisticated partition editor) which will offer
>to shrink your existing drive in the way you wish.

Max Power wrote:

> I was considering using an ASUS EEE PC for my distributed computing
> project. -- http://hireme.geek.nz/dsn-at-home.html
>
> But the unit's capabilities were such that I had to use a MiniPC instead.
> Once I finally figured out how to get the MiniPC networking subsystem to
> work (the Linux software part of it), the update left the unit incapable
> of accessing the internet. I was only able to get networking via USB,
> something totally contradictory to the way Unix typically works. Full
> Ethernet interface interoperability is probably a pipedream for the
> Unbuntu branch of Linux. USB networking is fine for my uses, but not what
> I expected to use. My web router supports USB and Ethernet interface
> connections.
>
I've had an ITX box similar to that kicking around for a number of years
now. I've run all sorts of distros on it over the years without a problem,
including Ubuntu - Dapper, Feisty and Gutsy. Although the mobo would be
different than the one you reference (mine is a fanless mobo), I can't see
why you say it won't work with ethernet?

Cheers.

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The world can't afford the rich.

Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Francis (Frank) adds a new "gadget" to his Vista box ...
Download it here: http://tinyurl.com/2hnof6

Please keep us informed of your progress.

Max Power wrote:
>
> I have downloaded Free BSD's 7.0 ISO's: the livefs that I put on to a
> CD-R seems to only run in character mode and to want to install to HD.

It is really more of a rescue disk, not like to linux live disks.
Just use cd no 1 for installation

>
>>> A Unix / Linux / BSD fix I would like to see in the next 6 months:
>>> universal support for installing to USB drives (Live CDs / DVDs) ...
>> ================================================== =
>> Well, both Debian and FreeBSD can easily be installed onto a usb drive,
>> I have a FreeBSD system here on a usb drive, no hassle at all. This
>> facility has been available for some time, it is really just down to
>> what your pc will boot from.
>
> I have no desire (or need) to wipe my Vista HD. I have 2 computers: one
> for the computer project -- the other for home (day to day) use. My
> issue is getting a working Vista X11 to MiniPC once it is working again.
> It is unclear how I should do this, as the base ARRIS router and IP
> address interface issues make a very simple issue very confusing (maybe
> because of use of the same IP address). I may have to resort to Samba,
> if Samba is supposed to be used in this way.
>
> Wikipedia is unclear on what is the best overall (for PC's) Linux
> variant -- or BSD etc... but it appears that Debian may have better
> tools. However, this project just requires a stable OS, with hopefully
> full hardware support. Gparted sounds interesting, but I probably should
> stick to haveing only one Linux OS on my MiniPC. I can use the USB &
> Flash workaround instead.
>
>>> 1. The preference for installing to USB should be paramount. The risk
>>> of wiping one's XP or Vista drive for most users is not worth it.
>>> Most of the user interfaces practically force wiping your HD by
>>> default. It should take several prompts (where you have to agree) to
>>> do this. There are not enough prompts around for this dangerous
>>> operation.
>> ============================================== If you install Debian,
>> you will get gparted (a fairly sophisticated partition editor) which
>> will offer to shrink your existing drive in the way you wish.
>
>

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Martin