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How far along has Linux gotten with video editing apps? Do we have
any really good apps that are *intuitive* and powerful?

I'd be perfectly willing to pay for good software.....

nobody writes:
> Do we have any really good apps that are *intuitive* and powerful?

There is no such thing as intuitive software.
--
John Hasler

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:27:17 -0600, John Hasler wrote:

> nobody writes:
>> Do we have any really good apps that are *intuitive* and powerful?
>
> There is no such thing as intuitive software.

Yes and no. No, there is no perfectly inutitive software for everyone on
the planet. Yes, there is some software which is intuitive enough that
anyone with a decent grasp of what is to be done can get by without much
additional help.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:23:22 -0600, John Hasler wrote:

> I wrote:
>> There is no such thing as intuitive software.
>
> ray writes:
>> Yes and no. No, there is no perfectly inutitive software for everyone on
>> the planet. Yes, there is some software which is intuitive enough that
>> anyone with a decent grasp of what is to be done can get by without much
>> additional help.
>
> An original definition of "intuitive".

Intuitive is relative. What is intuitive to one person is not necessarily
to another.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:46:27 -0600, nobody wrote:

> John Hasler wrote:
>
>> nobody writes:
>>> Do we have any really good apps that are *intuitive* and powerful?
>>
>> There is no such thing as intuitive software.
>
>
>
> Your reply is not helpful. If you do not have sufficient knowledge of
> the subject then perhaps silence would be the best course of action.

Nobody, you seemed to miss his point, a point about which he is correct.
There is a fallacy in your reply, the fact that you do not understand
does not indicate anything about his knowledge of the subject. In
addition, snippy replies (which we all see) don't encourage others to
offer help.

Actually, your question wasn't crafted in a manner to obtain the best
answers and, from the begining, is one that often degenerates into
another, 'my favorite program is best', debate. For more information
about asking effective questions in newsgroups please see:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

When I read your question I wonder who the "we" to which you refer is
supposed to be. I am also not sure what you mean by "intuitive", people
oftem mean 'easy for me to learn' by that but, as people's experience and
training and intelligence differ, easy to learn is relative. An example: A
lot of times people coming from a Windows background find that the
differences in open source software are hard for them at first. That is
not necessarily because pushing the "start" button in order to shut down
the computer is more intuitive, just that it is more familiar. Admittedly,
that was a bit of an extreme example to make the point.

You probably want me to shut up too since I am not answering your question
but, as advice, I would suggest asking in one of the video newsgroups.
Probably a lot more video editing experts hanging out there.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:15:43 -0600, nobody wrote:

> How far along has Linux gotten with video editing apps? Do we have any
> really good apps that are *intuitive* and powerful?
>
> I'd be perfectly willing to pay for good software.....

By the way nobody, are you really the owner of nobody.com? If not, it is
usually considered rude to use that address which could attract spam or
otherwise use resources of the mailserver at that address. It is an actual
used domain.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:15:43 -0600, nobody wrote:

> How far along has Linux gotten with video editing apps? Do we have any
> really good apps that are *intuitive* and powerful?
>
> I'd be perfectly willing to pay for good software.....

What exactly are you trying to do.

I use Avidemux for simple cuts.

Maniactor is supposed to be a very good commercial program but I have
never used it.

When I am dealing with dv from my camcorder I use Kino for simple edits.

There is a live cd with Cinelerra on it. From what I have read it is as
far from intuitive as you can get but extremely powerful.

Steve

Rodney <me@127.0.0.1> writes:

> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:15:43 -0600, nobody wrote:
>
>> How far along has Linux gotten with video editing apps? Do we have any
>> really good apps that are *intuitive* and powerful?
>>
>> I'd be perfectly willing to pay for good software.....
>
> By the way nobody, are you really the owner of nobody.com? If not, it is
> usually considered rude to use that address which could attract spam or
> otherwise use resources of the mailserver at that address. It is an actual
> used domain.
>

And so is 127.0.0.1 smarty pants. Like just about every recipient of
your post near enough.

Side note - it was perfectly obvious to anyone wishing to help just what
the OP meant be "intuitive" - even if it does means *slightly* different
things for some clever people. As for you having no clue to what he was
talking about then you clearly missed the bit about "video editing".

SteveSch wrote:

>
> What exactly are you trying to do.
>
> I use Avidemux for simple cuts.
>
> Maniactor is supposed to be a very good commercial program but I
> have never used it.
>
> When I am dealing with dv from my camcorder I use Kino for simple
> edits.
>
> There is a live cd with Cinelerra on it. From what I have read it is
> as far from intuitive as you can get but extremely powerful.
>
> Steve



I need to do fades, cut-n-spice, add background music and other basic
stuff. Want to input AVI's from my security system and input from a
camcorder (not yet bought).

Thanks for the info ....

Hadron writes:
> And so is 127.0.0.1 smarty pants.

That is not a domain.

> ...it was perfectly obvious to anyone wishing to help just what the OP
> meant be "intuitive"

"Intuitive" almost always means "Works just like whatever I am already
familiar with". If he would say what video editing software he is familiar
with someone might be able to point him toward something similar.
--
John Hasler