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Old 02-15-2008, 04:30 PM
Tony Lawrence
 
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Joe Dunning wrote:
> On 2004-12-09, Tony Lawrence <pcunix@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just heard from Deepak, who was the one who submitted the

article.
> > He says (and I believe him) that he DID properly attribute the

article
> > and that it was IXorg's fault that was taken off and that they will
> > post an apology here.
> >
> > I see also that SCO has properly attributed the article now.
> > "Spectacle" over :-)

>
> Tony, I'm glad to see a good result for you.
>
> However, assuming Deepak is correct, I think IXorg should be posting

at
> least three apologies: to you for taking off the attribution, to you
> again for claiming innocence and blaming others when they were to

blame
> and to Deepak for falsely blaming him.


Well, you are right. But we don't know WHO at IXorg did it or why. If
this is
the one and only time they ever did anything like this, I'd be willing
to accept
that it was accidental, or if not accidental, at least not officially
sanctioned.

Were I IXorg, I'd want a damn good explanation from the person who
stripped it,
and without that.. I'd throw 'em to the wolves.

But it COULD be entirely accidental.

>
> Perhaps even to SCO for involving SCO in an unwitting copyright
> infringement.



Oh, and to FYre also for causing it to once again make a moronic
comment in a thread.
Poor thing, it so needs attention.
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:30 PM
Bob Ungaretti
 
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iXorg provides a monthly "Tips & Tricks" section for UNIX
administrators in SCO's newsletter to resellers and partners. This
month, an article addressing printing concerns was provided to SCO by
iXorg which was obtained from Mr. Tony Lawrence's website,

http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ/FAQ_sco...owcontrol.html.

iXorg failed to provide the proper attribution to Mr. Lawrence as the
creator of this content. iXorg apologizes to both Mr. Lawrence and SCO
for this oversight. Once informed of the issue, SCO has taken steps to
add the proper attribution to their website where the December issue of
SCO Partner News is posted. They will also note the error in next
month's newsletter as well.

As president of iXorg, I would like to personally extend my apologies
to Tony for the confusion in properly crediting him for the article.
Thank you for your understanding

Bob Ungaretti
President - iXorg

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Old 02-15-2008, 04:30 PM
Nachman Yaakov Ziskind
 
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FyRE wrote (on Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 08:15:37PM +0000):
> On 8 Dec 2004 10:22:28 -0800, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> [...much wailing of a man gripped by an impotent rage...]
>
> In 1,000 years time, who's going to care?


Likewise; who's going to care about Groklaw then? Or SCO for that matter, who
will probably have been dead then for 996 years.

Of course, since the world is limited to 6,000 years, and we've used up 5,764
of them, this is only a hypothetical ...

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Old 02-15-2008, 04:30 PM
Jeff Liebermann
 
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On 9 Dec 2004 22:12:38 -0500, Nachman Yaakov Ziskind
<awacs@ziskind.us> wrote:

>FyRE wrote (on Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 08:15:37PM +0000):
>> On 8 Dec 2004 10:22:28 -0800, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> [...much wailing of a man gripped by an impotent rage...]
>>
>> In 1,000 years time, who's going to care?


>Likewise; who's going to care about Groklaw then? Or SCO for that matter, who
>will probably have been dead then for 996 years.
>
>Of course, since the world is limited to 6,000 years, and we've used up 5,764
>of them, this is only a hypothetical ...


Well, the online calendar:
http://www.hebcal.com/hebcal/
works until 9999. They're either very optimistic or don't believe in
prophecy. With the totally screwed up Hebrew calendar, the end of the
world may be as much as 240 years in error. It doesn't matter anyway
as in 2038, all the clocks will stop and begin to run backwards. It
will probably take at least that long to settle all the copyright,
patent, and contract disputes.

Anyway, Happy Hanukkah (however it's mis-spelled).


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Old 02-15-2008, 04:30 PM
Tony Lawrence
 
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Nachman Yaakov Ziskind wrote:
> FyRE wrote (on Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 08:15:37PM +0000):
> > On 8 Dec 2004 10:22:28 -0800, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > [...much wailing of a man gripped by an impotent rage...]
> >
> > In 1,000 years time, who's going to care?

>
> Likewise; who's going to care about Groklaw then? Or SCO for that

matter, who
> will probably have been dead then for 996 years.



You give them four years? I think we ought to start some pools: date
of death,
date last important customer switches systems, etc.

Other questions: Will they last long enough to release Legend, will
anyone actually use it, etc.

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Old 02-15-2008, 04:30 PM
Tony Lawrence
 
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Bob Ungaretti wrote:
> iXorg provides a monthly "Tips & Tricks" section for UNIX
> administrators in SCO's newsletter to resellers and partners. This
> month, an article addressing printing concerns was provided to SCO by
> iXorg which was obtained from Mr. Tony Lawrence's website,
>
> http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ/FAQ_sco...owcontrol.html.
>
> iXorg failed to provide the proper attribution to Mr. Lawrence as the
> creator of this content. iXorg apologizes to both Mr. Lawrence and

SCO
> for this oversight. Once informed of the issue, SCO has taken steps

to
> add the proper attribution to their website where the December issue

of
> SCO Partner News is posted. They will also note the error in next
> month's newsletter as well.
>
> As president of iXorg, I would like to personally extend my apologies
> to Tony for the confusion in properly crediting him for the article.
> Thank you for your understanding



Thank you Bob.

I do note that you still have me listed as a member of IXorg. As I
have explained here, I am not a member, and I don't think that it is
right for you to list me as such. You are of course free to make any
links you want to my site, or republish articles with attribution, but
I do not like that you list me as a member and request that you remove
that as soon as possible. This is not meant as anything negative other
than my feeling that your annual dues are too high for the value I
would recieve.

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Old 02-15-2008, 04:31 PM
Bob Ungaretti
 
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Tony:

We have just now removed the last reference to you from our website.
Bob

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