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SCO Openserver 6 - with maintenance pack 2

It appears that the mutt (v1.4.2.1i) that is compiled for the OSR6
skunkware set works only with sendmail - not mmdf. it can read
mailboxes but is unable to send if mmdf is the MTA (Error sending
message, child exited 78 ())

Can anyone confirm and/or assist? is there some sendmail string i
can put into a muttrc to fix this, or am i going to have to go down
the ugly path and back out patches to replace MTA & reinstall
maintenance packs?

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-Joe Chasan- Magnatech Business Systems, Inc.
joe@magnatechonline.com Hicksville, NY - USA
http://www.MagnatechOnline.com Tel.(516) 931-4444/Fax.(516) 931-1264

"Joe Chasan" <joe@magnatechonline.com> wrote in message
news:20060616110454.A18326@magnatechonline.com...
> SCO Openserver 6 - with maintenance pack 2
>
> It appears that the mutt (v1.4.2.1i) that is compiled for the OSR6
> skunkware set works only with sendmail - not mmdf. it can read
> mailboxes but is unable to send if mmdf is the MTA (Error sending
> message, child exited 78 ())
>
> Can anyone confirm and/or assist? is there some sendmail string i
> can put into a muttrc to fix this, or am i going to have to go down
> the ugly path and back out patches to replace MTA & reinstall
> maintenance packs?
>
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> -Joe Chasan- Magnatech Business Systems, Inc.
> joe@magnatechonline.com Hicksville, NY - USA
> http://www.MagnatechOnline.com Tel.(516) 931-4444/Fax.(516) 931-1264

Another option would be to get msmtp (or similar) and configure mutt to use
that for sending.

--

Richard Seeder

Joe Chasan wrote:
> SCO Openserver 6 - with maintenance pack 2
>
> It appears that the mutt (v1.4.2.1i) that is compiled for the OSR6
> skunkware set works only with sendmail - not mmdf. it can read
> mailboxes but is unable to send if mmdf is the MTA (Error sending
> message, child exited 78 ())
>
> Can anyone confirm and/or assist? is there some sendmail string i
> can put into a muttrc to fix this, or am i going to have to go down
> the ugly path and back out patches to replace MTA & reinstall
> maintenance packs?

Will the "sendmail" configuration variable do what you want? From the
mutt manual (press F1 while in mutt):

6.3.246. sendmail

Type: path
Default: "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi"

Specifies the program and arguments used to deliver mail sent by
Mutt. Mutt expects that the specified program interprets additional
arguments as recipient addresses.

6.3.247. sendmail_wait

Type: number
Default: 0

Specifies the number of seconds to wait for the ``$sendmail''
process to finish before giving up and putting delivery in the
background.

Mutt interprets the value of this variable as follows:

>0
number of seconds to wait for sendmail to finish before
continuing

0
wait forever for sendmail to finish

<0
always put sendmail in the background without waiting

Note that if you specify a value other than 0, the output of the
child process will be put in a temporary file. If there is some
error, you will be informed as to where to find the output.

On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 12:31:16PM -0700, Roger Cornelius wrote:
> Joe Chasan wrote:
> > SCO Openserver 6 - with maintenance pack 2
> >
> > It appears that the mutt (v1.4.2.1i) that is compiled for the OSR6
> > skunkware set works only with sendmail - not mmdf. it can read
> > mailboxes but is unable to send if mmdf is the MTA (Error sending
> > message, child exited 78 ())
> >
> > Can anyone confirm and/or assist? is there some sendmail string i
> > can put into a muttrc to fix this, or am i going to have to go down
> > the ugly path and back out patches to replace MTA & reinstall
> > maintenance packs?
>
> Will the "sendmail" configuration variable do what you want? From the
> mutt manual (press F1 while in mutt):
>
> 6.3.246. sendmail
>
> Type: path
> Default: "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi"
>
> Specifies the program and arguments used to deliver mail sent by
> Mutt. Mutt expects that the specified program interprets additional
> arguments as recipient addresses.
>
> 6.3.247. sendmail_wait
> ...


no, setting sendmail=/usr/lib/sendmail - the only sendmail binary i
can find on osr6 is bad. it appears on osr6 to be the actual sendmail
- not a link to some MMDF program as it was on OSR5. i tried. once i
start fooling with it, i have to create /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, and it
looks for other sendmail stuff i just can't duplicate easily. i even
tried sendmail=/usr/lib/mail/execmail, but that didn't work either

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-Joe Chasan- Magnatech Business Systems, Inc.
joe@magnatechonline.com Hicksville, NY - USA
http://www.MagnatechOnline.com Tel.(516) 931-4444/Fax.(516) 931-1264

Joe Chasan wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 12:31:16PM -0700, Roger Cornelius wrote:
> > Joe Chasan wrote:
> > > SCO Openserver 6 - with maintenance pack 2
> > >
> > > It appears that the mutt (v1.4.2.1i) that is compiled for the OSR6
> > > skunkware set works only with sendmail - not mmdf. it can read
> > > mailboxes but is unable to send if mmdf is the MTA (Error sending
> > > message, child exited 78 ())
> > >
> > > Can anyone confirm and/or assist? is there some sendmail string i
> > > can put into a muttrc to fix this, or am i going to have to go down
> > > the ugly path and back out patches to replace MTA & reinstall
> > > maintenance packs?
> >
> > Will the "sendmail" configuration variable do what you want? From the
> > mutt manual (press F1 while in mutt):
> >
> > 6.3.246. sendmail
> >
> > Type: path
> > Default: "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi"
> >
> > Specifies the program and arguments used to deliver mail sent by
> > Mutt. Mutt expects that the specified program interprets additional
> > arguments as recipient addresses.
> >
> > 6.3.247. sendmail_wait
> > ...
>
>
> no, setting sendmail=/usr/lib/sendmail - the only sendmail binary i
> can find on osr6 is bad. it appears on osr6 to be the actual sendmail
> - not a link to some MMDF program as it was on OSR5. i tried. once i
> start fooling with it, i have to create /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, and it
> looks for other sendmail stuff i just can't duplicate easily. i even
> tried sendmail=/usr/lib/mail/execmail, but that didn't work either

Sorry, I didn't mean to use the example literally. Try:

set sendmail="/usr/mmdf/bin/submit -mlnr"

That's what I used in mush when I still had mmdf several years ago.
Check the submit man page on the options though since they may be
specific to how mush handed the message to submit (I've always found
the submit man page confusing and convoluted). I think John Dubois was
the mmdf expert from SCO who used to answer all the these questions.
Where is he now?

In article <20060616110454.A18326@magnatechonline.com>,
Joe Chasan <joe@magnatechonline.com> wrote:
>SCO Openserver 6 - with maintenance pack 2
>
>It appears that the mutt (v1.4.2.1i) that is compiled for the OSR6
>skunkware set works only with sendmail - not mmdf. it can read
>mailboxes but is unable to send if mmdf is the MTA (Error sending
>message, child exited 78 ())
>
>Can anyone confirm and/or assist? is there some sendmail string i
>can put into a muttrc to fix this, or am i going to have to go down
>the ugly path and back out patches to replace MTA & reinstall
>maintenance packs?

Looks like there's a packaging problem - the /usr/lib/sendmail in the MMDF
package is the actual sendmail version instead of the mmdf version (which is a
front end for execmail).

Try telling mutt 'set sendmail=/usr/lib/mail/execmail'.
Or replace /usr/lib/sendmail with one from a 507 box that has MMDF installed.

John
--
John DuBois spcecdt@armory.com KC6QKZ/AE http://www.armory.com/~spcecdt/

In article <20060616162521.A26324@magnatechonline.com>,
Joe Chasan <joe@magnatechonline.com> wrote:
>i even tried sendmail=/usr/lib/mail/execmail, but that didn't work either

That smoke-tested OK for me (with my own build of Mutt 1.4.2i).
What error did you get?

John
--
John DuBois spcecdt@armory.com KC6QKZ/AE http://www.armory.com/~spcecdt/

John DuBois wrote:
> In article <20060616110454.A18326@magnatechonline.com>,
> Joe Chasan <joe@magnatechonline.com> wrote:
> >SCO Openserver 6 - with maintenance pack 2
> >
> >It appears that the mutt (v1.4.2.1i) that is compiled for the OSR6
> >skunkware set works only with sendmail - not mmdf. it can read
> >mailboxes but is unable to send if mmdf is the MTA (Error sending
> >message, child exited 78 ())
> >
> >Can anyone confirm and/or assist? is there some sendmail string i
> >can put into a muttrc to fix this, or am i going to have to go down
> >the ugly path and back out patches to replace MTA & reinstall
> >maintenance packs?
>
> Looks like there's a packaging problem - the /usr/lib/sendmail in the MMDF
> package is the actual sendmail version instead of the mmdf version (which is a
> front end for execmail).
>
> Try telling mutt 'set sendmail=/usr/lib/mail/execmail'.
> Or replace /usr/lib/sendmail with one from a 507 box that has MMDF installed.

So is it no longer proper (or was it ever) to call submit directly? I
used mush for many years configured that way.

On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 11:18:32PM -0000, John DuBois wrote:
> In article <20060616162521.A26324@magnatechonline.com>,
> Joe Chasan <joe@magnatechonline.com> wrote:
> >i even tried sendmail=/usr/lib/mail/execmail, but that didn't work either
>
> That smoke-tested OK for me (with my own build of Mutt 1.4.2i).
> What error did you get?

this one failed silently. turns out should have worked. one of the
mmdf lookup files was corrupt - hand-fixed & execmail now works. thanks.

i don't know why after all these years if SCO still insists on sending out
MMDF that the configuration menus still break & have to hand-edit stuff.

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-Joe Chasan- Magnatech Business Systems, Inc.
joe@magnatechonline.com Hicksville, NY - USA
http://www.MagnatechOnline.com Tel.(516) 931-4444/Fax.(516) 931-1264

On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 03:52:16PM -0700, Roger Cornelius wrote:
> Joe Chasan wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 12:31:16PM -0700, Roger Cornelius wrote:
> > > Joe Chasan wrote:
> > > > SCO Openserver 6 - with maintenance pack 2
> > > >
> > > > It appears that the mutt (v1.4.2.1i) that is compiled for the OSR6
> > > > skunkware set works only with sendmail - not mmdf. it can read
> > > > mailboxes but is unable to send if mmdf is the MTA (Error sending
> > > > message, child exited 78 ())
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone confirm and/or assist? is there some sendmail string i
> > > > can put into a muttrc to fix this, or am i going to have to go down
> > > > the ugly path and back out patches to replace MTA & reinstall
> > > > maintenance packs?
> > >
> > > Will the "sendmail" configuration variable do what you want? From the
> > > mutt manual (press F1 while in mutt):
> > >
> > > 6.3.246. sendmail
> > >
> > > Type: path
> > > Default: "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi"
> > >
> > > Specifies the program and arguments used to deliver mail sent by
> > > Mutt. Mutt expects that the specified program interprets additional
> > > arguments as recipient addresses.
> > >
> > > 6.3.247. sendmail_wait
> > > ...
> >
> >
> > no, setting sendmail=/usr/lib/sendmail - the only sendmail binary i
> > can find on osr6 is bad. it appears on osr6 to be the actual sendmail
> > - not a link to some MMDF program as it was on OSR5. i tried. once i
> > start fooling with it, i have to create /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, and it
> > looks for other sendmail stuff i just can't duplicate easily. i even
> > tried sendmail=/usr/lib/mail/execmail, but that didn't work either
>
> Sorry, I didn't mean to use the example literally. Try:
>
> set sendmail="/usr/mmdf/bin/submit -mlnr"

thanks, but flags must differ. get:
submit: (USER) Unknown user name in "Date: Mon;"
submit: message submission aborted

i don't know what flags/data stream mutt is sending...

> That's what I used in mush when I still had mmdf several years ago.
> Check the submit man page on the options though since they may be
> specific to how mush handed the message to submit (I've always found
> the submit man page confusing and convoluted). I think John Dubois was
> the mmdf expert from SCO who used to answer all the these questions.
> Where is he now?
>
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-Joe Chasan- Magnatech Business Systems, Inc.
joe@magnatechonline.com Hicksville, NY - USA
http://www.MagnatechOnline.com Tel.(516) 931-4444/Fax.(516) 931-1264