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Hi guys,

Before i start i have a confession to make. I have never used UNIX
before! So this is something very tough and foreign to me.

Q1:
In my office there are a couple of computers running SCO Openserver
5.0.5 (and yes, it's very old). I would like to study is there any way
to install 5.0.5 on a IBM based PC? Meaning those PCs which we assemble
ourselves.

Q2:
I noticed SCO uses a host adapter and SCSI hard disk. Can i use the
normal ATA IDE cable hard drive?

Q3:
If the first 2 questions' answer are yes, then where can i find the
graphics and network card driver? or at least where can i check whether
or not my graphics and network card are supported?

Q4:
Where can i find information on SCO Openserver 5.0.5?

A million thanks.

Ant_Magma wrote:
> Q1:
> In my office there are a couple of computers running SCO Openserver
> 5.0.5 (and yes, it's very old). I would like to study is there any way
> to install 5.0.5 on a IBM based PC? Meaning those PCs which we assemble
> ourselves.

OpenServer 5.0.5 will install on Intel and AMD 32 bit systems assuming
the hardware is compatible and supported by the OS. You will need a
license to do the install.

> Q2:
> I noticed SCO uses a host adapter and SCSI hard disk. Can i use the
> normal ATA IDE cable hard drive?

OpenServer 5.0.5 support for IDE drives is limited and you may have
issues with large IDE drives and recognition of the fully capactiy of
the drives.

> Q3:
> If the first 2 questions' answer are yes, then where can i find the
> graphics and network card driver? or at least where can i check whether
> or not my graphics and network card are supported?

There are drivers built into the Operating System that support graphics
and
network cards. For details of hardware supported you can check:

http://www.sco.com/chwp

Also, additional drievrs for OpenServer 5.0.5 were posted at:

ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/openserver5/drivers/OSR505/

> Q4:
> Where can i find information on SCO Openserver 5.0.5?

The support knowledge base at:

http://www.sco.com/ta

is a good starting point.

John

Ant_Magma wrote:
> Q1:
> In my office there are a couple of computers running SCO Openserver
> 5.0.5 (and yes, it's very old). I would like to study is there any way
> to install 5.0.5 on a IBM based PC? Meaning those PCs which we assemble
> ourselves.

OpenServer 5.0.5 will install on Intel and AMD 32 bit systems assuming
the hardware is compatible and supported by the OS. You will need a
license to do the install.

> Q2:
> I noticed SCO uses a host adapter and SCSI hard disk. Can i use the
> normal ATA IDE cable hard drive?

OpenServer 5.0.5 support for IDE drives is limited and you may have
issues with large IDE drives and recognition of the fully capactiy of
the drives.

> Q3:
> If the first 2 questions' answer are yes, then where can i find the
> graphics and network card driver? or at least where can i check whether
> or not my graphics and network card are supported?

There are drivers built into the Operating System that support graphics
and
network cards. For details of hardware supported you can check:

http://www.sco.com/chwp

Also, additional drievrs for OpenServer 5.0.5 were posted at:

ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/openserver5/drivers/OSR505/

> Q4:
> Where can i find information on SCO Openserver 5.0.5?

The support knowledge base at:

http://www.sco.com/ta

is a good starting point.

John

Ant_Magma wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Before i start i have a confession to make. I have never used UNIX
> before! So this is something very tough and foreign to me.

See http://aplawrence.com/newtounix.html

> In my office there are a couple of computers running SCO Openserver
> 5.0.5 (and yes, it's very old). I would like to study is there any way
> to install 5.0.5 on a IBM based PC? Meaning those PCs which we assemble
> ourselves.

Probably not. 5.0.5 is a bit old. SCO 5.0.7 or 6.0, yes.

But.. I'd have to wonder why on earth you'd do this. For any new
project, I'd use Linux/FreeBSD or Mac OS X.. definitely NOT SCO.


> I noticed SCO uses a host adapter and SCSI hard disk. Can i use the
> normal ATA IDE cable hard drive?

Yes.

> If the first 2 questions' answer are yes, then where can i find the
> graphics and network card driver? or at least where can i check whether
> or not my graphics and network card are supported?

See http://aplawrence.com/newtosco.html for starters. Drivers at
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/drivers/


> Where can i find information on SCO Openserver 5.0.5?

Here. At my site. At http://wdb1.sco.com/kb/search Or type it into
Google.

--
Tony Lawrence
Unix/Linux/Mac OS X Resources
http://aplawrence.com

I assume that your purpose is to understand SCO better to support the
existing applications. In that case I'd suggest putting SCO 5.0.5 on
VMware Desktop. That insulates you from some of the hardware issues.
It's also a much easier environment in which to try out various
"what-if" scenarios.

VMware doesn't officially support SCO but I didn't find installing
5.0.5 on it particularly difficult using emulated IDE. Check this forum
or Google for more pointers if needed.

If you're interested in just general *ix skills or for new development,
then yeah I'd consider something more au currant.

Ray Robert
Three Star Software

Ant_Magma wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Before i start i have a confession to make. I have never used UNIX
> before! So this is something very tough and foreign to me.
>
> Q1:
> In my office there are a couple of computers running SCO Openserver
> 5.0.5 (and yes, it's very old). I would like to study is there any way
> to install 5.0.5 on a IBM based PC? Meaning those PCs which we assemble
> ourselves.
>
> Q2:
> I noticed SCO uses a host adapter and SCSI hard disk. Can i use the
> normal ATA IDE cable hard drive?
>
> Q3:
> If the first 2 questions' answer are yes, then where can i find the
> graphics and network card driver? or at least where can i check whether
> or not my graphics and network card are supported?
>
> Q4:
> Where can i find information on SCO Openserver 5.0.5?
>
> A million thanks.

Ant_Magma wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Before i start i have a confession to make. I have never used UNIX
> before! So this is something very tough and foreign to me.
>
> Q1:
> In my office there are a couple of computers running SCO Openserver
> 5.0.5 (and yes, it's very old). I would like to study is there any way
> to install 5.0.5 on a IBM based PC? Meaning those PCs which we assemble
> ourselves.

Q1 above is silent on the possibility that you seek to migrate the current
SCO 5.0.5 to new hardware to replace the old hardware. If that's the
case, you have two items to consider:

1) SCO 5.0.5 should not be installed on anything faster than Pentium
III 1.4GHz (PIII-1.4GHz). P4's and faster CPU's have thermal protection
built into the chip that the 5.0.5 system can't use. (VMware suggested
in another post may allow installation on faster hardware by having
VM Ware kernel provide the thermal interface between the CPU and
host operating system.)

2) If you move to PIII, then the easiest way is to install SuperTar
backup software (Microlite BackupEdge, Cactus Lone-TAR, etc)
and use the disaster recovery media created by the SuperTar
to initialize the hard disk in the new hardware and dump a
full system backup to the new machine. I have used Backup Edge
in your situation on a system with SCSI tape drive, IDE CD-ROM,
and SCSI hard disk moving to IDE hard disk on the new system.

Note that you will need to move the SCSI controller and tape
drive to the new system to perform this transfer. Future backups
on the new system will continue to require SCSI tape or IDE tape
as BackupEdge can't write DVD media on 5.0.5 except with a
SCSI DVD writer or SCSI to IDE adapter with an IDE DVD writer.
Either way, you're going to need the SCSI controller.

Even though the IDE CDROM cannot be used as a backup destination
on the old 5.0.5, you can have Backup Edge "auto detect" the CD drive
and create a RE2 ISO boot image that can be transferred to
any operating system that can write ISO images to CDR media.
Boot the RE2 media in the new machine with:
DEFBOOTSTR Sdsk=wd(0,0,0) (IDE disk as Master on Primary controller)
Srom=wd(1,0,0) (IDE CD as master on secondary controller).
Beyond this point you may or may not be able to choose the
"automatic recovery" options to set up the new disk and restore
the backup from tape.

If "automatic recover" fails, you can select shell utilities and
manually perform the setup using "mkdev hd 0 0" (first disk on primary
HD controller), fdisk, badtrk, divvy -i (note: fdisk, badtrk, divvy are
automatically called by mkdev hd), mount /dev/hd0root /mnt,
cd /mnt, mkdir stand, mount /dev/boot /mnt/stand, and
then "edge xvbf 64 /dev/rStp0" to restore the backup to the disk.

You should review the man pages on divvy and familiarize yourself
with the file system layout on the old system.

If you were to perform a fresh installation of 5.0.5 from the
installation media, you would need to know the values you need
to supply to fdisk, badtrk, and divvy anyway. So using RE2 media
and having to manually invoke these utilities is no more difficult
than performing a fresh installation.

Both Backup Edge and Lone-TAR are available as 30-day demo that is
fully functional to accomplish the task of moving to the new
hardware. (Smart marketing! Once you use the SuperTar for this
task, you'll likely not want to be without it as a permanent
backup solution.)

>
> Q2:
> I noticed SCO uses a host adapter and SCSI hard disk. Can i use the
> normal ATA IDE cable hard drive?
>
> Q3:
> If the first 2 questions' answer are yes, then where can i find the
> graphics and network card driver? or at least where can i check whether
> or not my graphics and network card are supported?
>
> Q4:
> Where can i find information on SCO Openserver 5.0.5?
>
> A million thanks.


--

Steve Fabac
S.M. Fabac & Associates
816/765-1670

Hi all,

Thanks for all your replies. I haven't tried out your suggestions yet.
I'll work and study on it and then feedback to you guys later.

Thanks again.

Hi guys, i've read somewhere that SCO 5.0.5 is unsuitable for P4
processors, is it true?


Ant_Magma wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for all your replies. I haven't tried out your suggestions yet.
> I'll work and study on it and then feedback to you guys later.
>
> Thanks again.

Ant_Magma wrote:
> Hi guys, i've read somewhere that SCO 5.0.5 is unsuitable for P4
> processors, is it true?
>

ISTR you need to apply rs506a to turn on the thermal protection so that
your CPU will not set fire to itself if your CPU heatsink falls off
whilst computing pi to a zillion places.

Ian Wilson typed (on Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:21:32AM +0000):
| Ant_Magma wrote:
| >Hi guys, i've read somewhere that SCO 5.0.5 is unsuitable for P4
| >processors, is it true?
| >
|
| ISTR you need to apply rs506a to turn on the thermal protection so that
| your CPU will not set fire to itself if your CPU heatsink falls off
| whilst computing pi to a zillion places.

You Seem To Remember poorly, since rs506a is hardly applicable to 5.0.5.

More to the point, TA 115963 flat-out states:

Openserver 5.0.4 and 5.0.5 will not work with a
Pentium 4 based system.

http://wdb1.sco.com/kb/showta?taid=115963

--
JP
==> http://www.frappr.com/cusm <==