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Hello,

Is it possible to configure UUCP (from OSR5 or Unixware) to connect over
a ssh connection?
Otherwise should I use stunnel for UUCP over TCP?

Regards,
Andreas Kohl

On Thu, Feb 16, 2006, Andreas Kohl wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Is it possible to configure UUCP (from OSR5 or Unixware) to connect over
>a ssh connection?

Somebody besides me an JP that's still using uucp :-).

You can certainly use ssh port forwarding to do this. Every time
I have to do something like this I have to RTFM a bit to remember
how it's done.

The easiest way to handle things like this is often to use VPN
appliances like the LinkSys BEFVP41. These make it easy to
create IPSec tunnels between systems, independent of the OS of
the machines on the private network. They're cheap, easy to
configure, and generally pretty reliable.

Bill
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Bill Campbell typed (on Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 10:18:00AM -0800):
| On Thu, Feb 16, 2006, Andreas Kohl wrote:
| >Hello,
| >
| >Is it possible to configure UUCP (from OSR5 or Unixware) to connect over
| >a ssh connection?
|
| Somebody besides me an JP that's still using uucp :-).
|
| You can certainly use ssh port forwarding to do this. Every time
| I have to do something like this I have to RTFM a bit to remember
| how it's done.
|
| The easiest way to handle things like this is often to use VPN
| appliances like the LinkSys BEFVP41. These make it easy to
| create IPSec tunnels between systems, independent of the OS of
| the machines on the private network. They're cheap, easy to
| configure, and generally pretty reliable.
|

As Bill say, this is totally feasible.

I install Taylor uucp, which is really a big improvement over HDB uucp.
For one thing, Taylor's 'i' protocol does bi-directional simultaneous
transfers, rather than the old "my-turn your-turn" of classic HDB.

Taylor uucp allows piping the local uucico through the local ssh to the
remote's sshd to the remote's uucico.

I've set up one customer so that all of the transfers between the sites
do not talk directly; instead they each contact a firewall, letting
uucp's store-and-forward capability really shine. The reduction in
overseas long-distance charges was dramatic, and the speed increase
compared to modem connections was also amazing.

--
JP
==> http://www.frappr.com/cusm <==

Bill Campbell schrieb:
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006, Andreas Kohl wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>Is it possible to configure UUCP (from OSR5 or Unixware) to connect over
>>a ssh connection?
>
>
> Somebody besides me an JP that's still using uucp :-).
>
> You can certainly use ssh port forwarding to do this. Every time
> I have to do something like this I have to RTFM a bit to remember
> how it's done.
>
The UUCP documentation is not updated in OSR6. There are some changes
while reading the release notes.


> The easiest way to handle things like this is often to use VPN
> appliances like the LinkSys BEFVP41.
Ok, but I prefer Shiva vpn boxes

> These make it easy to
> create IPSec tunnels between systems, independent of the OS of
> the machines on the private network. They're cheap, easy to
> configure, and generally pretty reliable.
>
> Bill
> --

Thanks,
Andreas
> INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC
> URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way
> FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676
>
> ``Nobody wants to be called common people, especially common people.''
> Will Rogers

Jean-Pierre Radley schrieb:
> Bill Campbell typed (on Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 10:18:00AM -0800):
> | On Thu, Feb 16, 2006, Andreas Kohl wrote:
> | >Hello,
> | >
> | >Is it possible to configure UUCP (from OSR5 or Unixware) to connect over
> | >a ssh connection?
> |
> | Somebody besides me an JP that's still using uucp :-).
> |
> | You can certainly use ssh port forwarding to do this. Every time
> | I have to do something like this I have to RTFM a bit to remember
> | how it's done.
> |
> | The easiest way to handle things like this is often to use VPN
> | appliances like the LinkSys BEFVP41. These make it easy to
> | create IPSec tunnels between systems, independent of the OS of
> | the machines on the private network. They're cheap, easy to
> | configure, and generally pretty reliable.
> |
>
> As Bill say, this is totally feasible.
>
> I install Taylor uucp, which is really a big improvement over HDB uucp.
> For one thing, Taylor's 'i' protocol does bi-directional simultaneous
> transfers, rather than the old "my-turn your-turn" of classic HDB.
>
> Taylor uucp allows piping the local uucico through the local ssh to the
> remote's sshd to the remote's uucico.
That's what I wanted to do with HoneyDanBer. But it seems not possible?
So I will have to compile Taylor UUCP 1.07 on monday - are binaries for
sco unix available somewhere?
>
> I've set up one customer so that all of the transfers between the sites
> do not talk directly; instead they each contact a firewall, letting
> uucp's store-and-forward capability really shine. The reduction in
> overseas long-distance charges was dramatic, and the speed increase
> compared to modem connections was also amazing.
>
interesting. Do you use sendmail or mmdf?

Regards,
Andreas Kohl

On Fri, Feb 17, 2006, Andreas Kohl wrote:
>Bill Campbell schrieb:
>>On Thu, Feb 16, 2006, Andreas Kohl wrote:
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>Is it possible to configure UUCP (from OSR5 or Unixware) to connect over
>>>a ssh connection?
>>
>>
>>Somebody besides me an JP that's still using uucp :-).
>>
>>You can certainly use ssh port forwarding to do this. Every time
>>I have to do something like this I have to RTFM a bit to remember
>>how it's done.
>>
>The UUCP documentation is not updated in OSR6. There are some changes
>while reading the release notes.

It's been at least 10 year since I used SCO's uucp. As JP said,
get and install Taylor uucp to replace SCO's (you still need to
have the Devices file correct to get dial-in/dial-out working
properly on SCO as the lines in Devices need to agree with the
lines in the /etc/inittab file).

>
>>The easiest way to handle things like this is often to use VPN
>>appliances like the LinkSys BEFVP41.
>Ok, but I prefer Shiva vpn boxes

Whatever works for you. I've never used Shiva, and don't know
anything about them.

Bill
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URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way
FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676

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that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the
difference between having our arms in our own possession and under our own
direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense
be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted
with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?''
-- Patrick Henry June 9, 1788, in the Virginia Convention on the
ratification of the Constitution.

On Fri, Feb 17, 2006, Andreas Kohl wrote:
>Jean-Pierre Radley schrieb:
>>Bill Campbell typed (on Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 10:18:00AM -0800):
....
>>As Bill say, this is totally feasible.
>>
>>I install Taylor uucp, which is really a big improvement over HDB uucp.
>>For one thing, Taylor's 'i' protocol does bi-directional simultaneous
>>transfers, rather than the old "my-turn your-turn" of classic HDB.
>>
>>Taylor uucp allows piping the local uucico through the local ssh to the
>>remote's sshd to the remote's uucico.

>That's what I wanted to do with HoneyDanBer. But it seems not possible?
>So I will have to compile Taylor UUCP 1.07 on monday - are binaries for
>sco unix available somewhere?
>>
>>I've set up one customer so that all of the transfers between the sites
>>do not talk directly; instead they each contact a firewall, letting
>>uucp's store-and-forward capability really shine. The reduction in
>>overseas long-distance charges was dramatic, and the speed increase
>>compared to modem connections was also amazing.
>>
>interesting. Do you use sendmail or mmdf?

I've *NEVER* used sendmail or mmdf. Sendmail was horribly insecure when we
first connected to the Internet in 1991. MMDF has always been pretty much
an SCO-only system.

I think JP runs smail-3.x which is what we ran when we were running
OpenServer as our main mail servers.

We're now using postfix on all our mail servers.

Bill
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URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way
FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676

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