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In article <11e70f2b-e20b-4a01-9fd9-c83e17dac8d7@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
llothar <llothar@web.de> wrote:
>> - garbage collection is tough, especially in the presence of dynamic
>> loading, which is already a bitch to make it run.
>
>No it is not. Boehm is using a very simple mode of world stop and run.
>This
>is good enough for many cases. Incremental mode is not disabled by
>default
>on many (any?) system.

Oh fuck, get gcj to work on OpenBSD i386, if you're so smart. This is the
one apps where, specifically, tests fail when the lib is linked dynamically.

I'm not even speaking `weird' architectures, as you put it, but mainstream.

The kind of attitude you display does not conduce to WANTING to help you.
In fact, it makes me put boehm-gc even FURTHER on my list of things to do.

Fuck you.

llothar wrote:
> On 2 Mrz., 19:47, "Helmut Schneider" <jumpe...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> No more "FreeBSD install sucks a lot"?!
>>
>
> Thanks, yes it still sucks. So whats you opinion about this topics.
> The BSD's suck in many many many ways. I'm working with all 8 of them
> (Net,Free,Open,Mac in 2 architectures). I think i really know about
> what i
> say.

I've used public transit all my life, but I don't claim to understand
how to maintain a bus.

Good grief. If you think something sucks, you have other choices.

The fact is, if you have special computing needs (e.g., some special
kernel-aware GC library with userland hooks) then why not switch to a
platform that supports it more painlessly.

Or, do the work yourself and quit bike-shedding. Complaining about an
obscure feature that doesn't exist in Platform X is lame.
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llothar wrote:
>> Never heard of it.
>
> Sorry for the hard and honest words: Sucker. Really i mean it. Someone
> who never heared
> about Boehm-Weisser-GC simply does not know anything serious about
> programming.
>
> It's like talking about politics and never heared about Napoleon.

Who? Seriously, you brought up /Napoleon/?

(You do realize the majority of burgeoning democracies developed
post-Napoleon /didn't/ adopt the changes and policies developed during
that time, right? So, at best, Napoleonic references are an interesting
side-note in most political discussions everywhere /else/ except France
and Quebec.)

The kind of coding I do does not require me to care about the underlying
details of the language specifications, nor does it require, or
encourage, me to care about the specific implementation of those
specifications. Furthermore, most of the languages I use don't /have/
GC. I'm not paid to fuck around with obscure underlying language
implementation details. I have to fix bugs and get product out the
door. You know, like 95% of paid developers have to. I'll leverage a
specific algorithm only when it matters to me. Until then, it may as
well not exist because it means nothing to me.

So why should I, or anyone else in the general population of OpenBSD
users, care about a specific GC algorithm you care about?

A quick Google suggests that this algorithm is not the panacea you seem
to think it is, anyway.

You are asking about this because, I presume, you have a special need
for it. In cases like this you are advised to Build It Yourself.

If you are too lazy to do so yourself, don't be surprised and pissed off
when others don't want to do it for you. This is just childish. BSD is
about scratching an itch. Unless someone else gets this same itch, it's
up to you to figure it out. If you can't, my hear bleeds cold borscht
for you. I cordially invite you to suck it up.

Welcome to free software. You could always pay a vendor, including
OpenBSD, to develop this for you.

Sorry for the harsh words, but you are coming across like an ass, and
worse: a lazy ass. Not to mention you seem to like to go on the
offensive overly quick, but with some of the most poorly formed and
illogical arguments I've seen in a long time.

Plainly put: you sound like every other anti-platform troll out there.
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Steve at fivetrees wrote:
> "Marc Espie" <espie@lain.home> wrote in message
> news:fqrj8l$2fpf$1@biggoron.nerim.net...
>> And I would like $10 000, and ten sex bunnies.
>
> Perhaps we could start a fund to provide the sex bunnies?
>
I'm thinking instead of the sticker every 6 months, maybe one-two sex
bunnies? Better get some in the format my SO prefers, too.
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