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#1 (**permalink**) 02-16-2008, 07:02 AM

Hello all,

I was wondering if anybody has had any luck getting Azureus (a
BitTorrent client) to run on OpenBSD?

Even when I download the snapshot and the two extra jars (log4j and
commons) to run in console mode I get a whole bunch of exceptions and
then nothing, but it stays running until I hit ^C.

I currently have jdk-1.4.2 installed and the machine is chewing away at
1.5, but since the home for Azureus says 1.4.x+, I thought I'd try. The
machine itself is -current as of about a week after the release of 3.8.

Any suggestions/hints/tips/etc.. are welcome, as well as suggestions for
another GUI BT cleint to use on OpenBSD instead of Azureus.

Thanks in advance.

#2 (**permalink**) 02-16-2008, 07:02 AM

Cory C. Albrecht <coryalbrecht@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Any suggestions/hints/tips/etc.. are welcome, as well as suggestions for
> another GUI BT cleint to use on OpenBSD instead of Azureus.

BitTorrent-gui, from net/BitTorrent.
It's probably quite spartan compared to Azureus.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

#3 (**permalink**) 02-16-2008, 07:02 AM

Cory C. Albrecht wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I was wondering if anybody has had any luck getting Azureus (a
> BitTorrent client) to run on OpenBSD?
>
> Even when I download the snapshot and the two extra jars (log4j and
> commons) to run in console mode I get a whole bunch of exceptions and
> then nothing, but it stays running until I hit ^C.
>
> I currently have jdk-1.4.2 installed and the machine is chewing away at
> 1.5, but since the home for Azureus says 1.4.x+, I thought I'd try. The
> machine itself is -current as of about a week after the release of 3.8.
>
> Any suggestions/hints/tips/etc.. are welcome, as well as suggestions for
> another GUI BT cleint to use on OpenBSD instead of Azureus.
>
> Thanks in advance.

Ktorrent works http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/

I didn't know Openbsd ran java (licencing issue).

gtoomey

#4 (**permalink**) 02-16-2008, 07:02 AM

Gregory Toomey <nobody@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Cory C. Albrecht wrote:

> I didn't know Openbsd ran java (licencing issue).
>
> gtoomey

It does, but it isn't a package and will not build automagically from
ports (it requires you to accept the license). Additionally, it cannot
be bootstrapped on OpenBSD, so lots of workarounds and hours of
compiling are necessary to get it to work.

joachim

#5 (**permalink**) 02-16-2008, 07:02 AM

In article <43810390$0$44038$dbd4d001@news.wanadoo.nl>, jKILLSPAM.schipper@math.uu.nl wrote:
>Gregory Toomey <nobody@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> I didn't know Openbsd ran java (licencing issue).

>It does, but it isn't a package and will not build automagically from
>ports (it requires you to accept the license). Additionally, it cannot
>be bootstrapped on OpenBSD, so lots of workarounds and hours of
>compiling are necessary to get it to work.

Actually, devel/jdk/1.42 and devel/jdk/1.5 do appear to be bootstrapping
themselves. Both require the previous version before itself to be
installed in order to build, and both require source plus some patches
from elsewhere which they compile to make into a fake package to
install. Even though you have to go and manually download the distfiles,
you aren't downloading just a binary package which runs without needing
to compile.

#6 (**permalink**) 02-16-2008, 07:02 AM

Cory C. Albrecht <coryalbrecht@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article <43810390$0$44038$dbd4d001@news.wanadoo.nl>, jKILLSPAM.schipper@math.uu.nl wrote:
>>Gregory Toomey <nobody@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> I didn't know Openbsd ran java (licencing issue).
>
>>It does, but it isn't a package and will not build automagically from
>>ports (it requires you to accept the license). Additionally, it cannot
>>be bootstrapped on OpenBSD, so lots of workarounds and hours of
>>compiling are necessary to get it to work.
>
> Actually, devel/jdk/1.42 and devel/jdk/1.5 do appear to be bootstrapping
> themselves. Both require the previous version before itself to be
> installed in order to build, and both require source plus some patches
> from elsewhere which they compile to make into a fake package to
> install. Even though you have to go and manually download the distfiles,
> you aren't downloading just a binary package which runs without needing
> to compile.

If that is bootstrapping, my definition needs updating. No sarcasm here
- just that I wouldn't have called it bootstrapping.

And the hours of compiling still stand... ;-)

Joachim

#7 (**permalink**) 02-16-2008, 07:02 AM

In article <4384f9d5$0$54036$dbd4f001@news.wanadoo.nl>, jKILLSPAM.schipper@math.uu.nl wrote:
>Cory C. Albrecht <coryalbrecht@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <43810390$0$44038$dbd4d001@news.wanadoo.nl>,
> jKILLSPAM.schipper@math.uu.nl wrote:
>>>Gregory Toomey <nobody@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>> I didn't know Openbsd ran java (licencing issue).

>>>It does, but it isn't a package and will not build automagically from
>>>ports (it requires you to accept the license). Additionally, it cannot
>>>be bootstrapped on OpenBSD, so lots of workarounds and hours of
>>>compiling are necessary to get it to work.

>> Actually, devel/jdk/1.42 and devel/jdk/1.5 do appear to be bootstrapping
>> themselves. Both require the previous version before itself to be
>> installed in order to build, and both require source plus some patches
>> from elsewhere which they compile to make into a fake package to
>> install. Even though you have to go and manually download the distfiles,
>> you aren't downloading just a binary package which runs without needing
>> to compile.

>If that is bootstrapping, my definition needs updating. No sarcasm here
>- just that I wouldn't have called it bootstrapping.

Implied was the fact that jdk-1.4.2 requires 1.3.x to be installed in
order to use it to build 1.4.2, and 1.5 requires 1.4.2 to be installed
to, again, use it to build 1.5. It needs an earlier version of itself to
build itself, and that is pretty much bootstrapping.

What is your version of "bootstrapping"?

#8 (**permalink**) 02-16-2008, 07:02 AM

Cory C. Albrecht <coryalbrecht@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article <4384f9d5$0$54036$dbd4f001@news.wanadoo.nl>, jKILLSPAM.schipper@math.uu.nl wrote:
>>Cory C. Albrecht <coryalbrecht@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> In article <43810390$0$44038$dbd4d001@news.wanadoo.nl>,
>> jKILLSPAM.schipper@math.uu.nl wrote:
>>>>Gregory Toomey <nobody@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>> I didn't know Openbsd ran java (licencing issue).
>
>>>>It does, but it isn't a package and will not build automagically from
>>>>ports (it requires you to accept the license). Additionally, it cannot
>>>>be bootstrapped on OpenBSD, so lots of workarounds and hours of
>>>>compiling are necessary to get it to work.
>
>>> Actually, devel/jdk/1.42 and devel/jdk/1.5 do appear to be bootstrapping
>>> themselves. Both require the previous version before itself to be
>>> installed in order to build, and both require source plus some patches
>>> from elsewhere which they compile to make into a fake package to
>>> install. Even though you have to go and manually download the distfiles,
>>> you aren't downloading just a binary package which runs without needing
>>> to compile.
>
>>If that is bootstrapping, my definition needs updating. No sarcasm here
>>- just that I wouldn't have called it bootstrapping.
>
> Implied was the fact that jdk-1.4.2 requires 1.3.x to be installed in
> order to use it to build 1.4.2, and 1.5 requires 1.4.2 to be installed
> to, again, use it to build 1.5. It needs an earlier version of itself to
> build itself, and that is pretty much bootstrapping.
>
> What is your version of "bootstrapping"?

I don't have too much of a definition - just a vague notion that
'bootstrapping' should allow whatever-it-is to pull itself out of the
swamp by it's own hair, *using only basic utilities*.

I find gcc's 'make bootstrap' quite ok, as it uses only a C compiler
which I consider a basic utility. Java's bootstrap, to me, isn't, as it
uses a JDK which is a) not a basic utility, as far as I'm concerned and
b) required to be a pretty specific version (whereas gcc can be built
with most decent compilers).

Not a very good definition, come to think of it... ;-)

Joachim

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