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| I have an IBM X40 with an Intel NIC, shows up as: em0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT Mobile (82541GI)" rev 0x00: irq 11, address 00:0a:e4:2b:0e:63 I'm in a little NAT'd subnet, controlled by dhcp. So I dhclient em0 to set it up. This gets an IP address, perfectly fine, and sets up the gateway, dns, etc... and I can ping the gateway, and also, the DNS resolution is working, as a ping to an external address shows an IP it's trying to hit, but no packets ever come back. tcpdump shows only outgoing, never anything coming back. dmesg shows: duplicate IP address 10.1.10.199 sent from ethernet address 00:02:a5:26:fc:b3 which makes me thing that this IP address seems to have been also assigned to another computer/device Now I'm really wondering, why is this happening? booting up in a linux livecd gets the same IP, but it works perfectly fine. is there something I'm doing wrong? This is extremely frustrating (having to cart around a big pccard NIC kind of takes away from the subnotebook effect).... |
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| dbpatterson <dbpatt@gmail.com> wrote: > I have an IBM X40 with an Intel NIC, shows up as: > em0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT Mobile (82541GI)" rev > 0x00: irq 11, address 00:0a:e4:2b:0e:63 > > I'm in a little NAT'd subnet, controlled by dhcp. So I dhclient em0 to > set it up. This gets an IP address, perfectly fine, and sets up the > gateway, dns, etc... and I can ping the gateway, and also, the DNS > resolution is working, as a ping to an external address shows an IP > it's trying to hit, but no packets ever come back. tcpdump shows only > outgoing, never anything coming back. > > dmesg shows: > duplicate IP address 10.1.10.199 sent from ethernet address > 00:02:a5:26:fc:b3 > > which makes me thing that this IP address seems to have been also > assigned to another computer/device > > Now I'm really wondering, why is this happening? booting up in a linux > livecd gets the same IP, but it works perfectly fine. > > is there something I'm doing wrong? This is extremely frustrating > (having to cart around a big pccard NIC kind of takes away from the > subnotebook effect).... You should be looking up what lives on 10.1.10.199, 00:02:a5:26:fc:b3. If there's actually something there, OpenBSD is right, the DHCP server is configured wrong [1], and Linux just happened to work for the time you tried. For what it's worth, 00:02:a5:26:fc:b3 is assigned to Compaq, and it is not entirely unlikely that you'll find a Compaq-made card in a Compaq-made computer. net/arping can verify that the MAC address is in use; net/nmap might give a clue about what services and possible OS is running on this machine. Try getting a non-duplicate IP and then running, as root, nmap -T4 -A 10.1.10.199 [2]. This should give a result like # nmap -T4 -A 192.168.14.2 Starting Nmap 4.20 ( http://insecure.org ) at 2007-08-20 11:31 CEST Interesting ports on melpomene.jschipper.dynalias.net (192.168.14.2): Not shown: 1694 closed ports PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION 22/tcp open ssh OpenSSH 4.6 (protocol 2.0) 25/tcp open smtp 6000/tcp open X11 (access denied) 1 service unrecognized despite returning data. If you know the service/version, please submit the following fingerprint at http://www.insecure.org/cgi-bin/servicefp-submit.cgi : SF-Port25-TCP:V=4.20%I=7%D=8/20%Time=46C95FBF%P=i386-unknown-openbsd4.1%r( SF:NULL,5C,"220\x20melpomene\.jschipper\.dynalias\ .net\x20ESMTP\x20server\ SF:.\x20Welcome!\x20Abuse\x20will\x20get\x20you\x2 0in\x20trouble\.\r\n")%r SF SF:\.\x20Welcome!\x20Abuse\x20will\x20get\x20you\x 20in\x20trouble\.\r\n502 SF:\x205\.5\.2\x20Error:\x20command\x20not\x20reco gnized\r\n"); Device type: general purpose Running (JUST GUESSING) : OpenBSD 3.X|4.X (96%) Aggressive OS guesses: OpenBSD 3.9 - 4.0 (96%), OpenBSD 4.0 (x86) (92%), OpenBSD 4.0 (CURRENT) macppc (89%), OpenBSD 4.0 (sparc64) (89%), OpenBSD 3.4 (x86) (87%) No exact OS matches for host (test conditions non-ideal). Network Distance: 0 hops Service Info: OS: Unix OS and Service detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at http://insecure.org/nmap/submit/ . Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 78.050 seconds which can tell you quite a bit. In this case, we even find the hostname as reverse DNS works ('Interesting ports on melpomene.jschipper.dynalias.net (192.168.14.2)'); however, as this might not be the case, do note that there are other ways of discovering the hostname. Many services will (might) give out the hostname when you connect; if SSH works and you can log in, that's probably easiest, but you can get hostnames from protocols like FTP, SMTP, and sometimes HTTP as well (try looking for http://10.1.10.199/any-nonexistent-page). In this case, my custom mail server header confused nmap, but the hostname is easily found - the 'unrecognized fingerprint' reads "melpomene.jschipper.dynalias.net ESMTP server. Welcome! Abuse will get you in trouble.". OS detection is imperfect - this machine runs -current, aka OpenBSD 4.2-beta - but it did get the 'OpenBSD' part right. Of course, it *is* possible that there is some horrible OpenBSD bug that makes OpenBSD believe that the address is in use when it's not. But that is not the most likely scenario... Joachim [1] Or the people setting up the DHCP server don't know about 10.1.10.199, which some guy might have set up with a static IP for some reason. [2] This almost certainly won't crash the host, your network, or kill kittens. but you do get to keep the pieces. System administrators tend to be nervous when seeing nmap, as quickly taking stock of a network is something that crackers like to do, too. If you don't want to or can not use nmap, 'nc 10.1.10.199 <port>', from another IP, is a bit less convenient but gives the same result. Also, -T4 specifies that nmap should scan pretty quickly. If you want to ease network load, use a lower number. |
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| Hmm, okay I ran the scan (when on a different network card with a different IP), and I get 0 ports open, basically no information except that it is indeed up. (and that it is a card registered to compaq). what's funny is this seems like it is obviously wrong, and something is up, but every time I start up in linux it works perfectly. Perhaps the linux box is managing to take over that IP with some kind of ARP magic, I'm not sure. knowing this (which I had kind of suspected), is the best solution to just do a static configuration with a known free IP (the one that is saved for my pc card NIC) ? or is there some way to force the server to give me a unique IP? anyway, thanks for the help. |
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| dbpatterson <dbpatt@gmail.com> wrote: > Hmm, okay I ran the scan (when on a different network card with a > different IP), and I get 0 ports open, basically no information except > that it is indeed up. (and that it is a card registered to compaq). > > what's funny is this seems like it is obviously wrong, and something > is up, but every time I start up in linux it works perfectly. Perhaps > the linux box is managing to take over that IP with some kind of ARP > magic, I'm not sure. > > knowing this (which I had kind of suspected), is the best solution to > just do a static configuration with a known free IP (the one that is > saved for my pc card NIC) ? or is there some way to force the server > to give me a unique IP? If you cannot find the device which causes the problems, the best bet would probably be configuring the DHCP server not to hand out that particular address (configuring your new machine with a static address is a temporary solution at best, and likely to break at an inconvenient time). This, of course, depends on the DHCP server you use; if you use OpenBSD's, dhcpd.conf(5) documents the 'range' option, which may apparently be given multiple times. This would allow you to isolate the IP in question. (The 'host' directive may or may not work, either, but I'm not sure that's less ugly.) Do read the docs before configuring, as I'm not particularly experienced with tricky DHCP setups. Joachim |