I have a brand new obsd 3.6 and an old pentium-133 based machine with
96 MB memory and a 1.2 GB disk and CD.
obsd cd is booted ok and asks a few questions about keyboard/language
and then for the allowance to install, which is granted (of course).
then after a short "hurray" it tests the disks and stops the shell,
telling me it didn't find one!
But if I don't boot from the CD but from the harddisk, a nice linux
(2.6 kernal) comes up (alternatively some msdos), so there IS some
disk.

what I want to achieve is format the disk under obsd and install obsd
there, to be used as a web-firewall-computer for 2 windows and 1 linux
client.

any idea what went wrong?

thanks a lot,
wolfgang (wtr)

> I have a brand new obsd 3.6 and an old pentium-133 based machine with
> 96 MB memory and a 1.2 GB disk and CD.
> obsd cd is booted ok and asks a few questions about keyboard/language
> and then for the allowance to install, which is granted (of course).
> then after a short "hurray" it tests the disks and stops the shell,
> telling me it didn't find one!
> But if I don't boot from the CD but from the harddisk, a nice linux
> (2.6 kernal) comes up (alternatively some msdos), so there IS some
> disk.
> any idea what went wrong?

Not really, i'm missing some crucial information.
What does your bios say about the disk ?

Does it has some `sort` of harddisk controller card ?
If so, wich brand/model/scsi/ide ?

In case you have some sort of controller card wich isn't
supported try the onboard IDE controller instead.
(Changes are pretty big it has one if it's a pentium 133)

Or when the controller IS supported but still doesn't work
you might want to flash your BIOS firmware to the latest
version (wich could be 1996 but hey, if it's newer ....)
I had this once with a mylex controller.


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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 04:21:07 +0100, "Bas Keur" <bas.keur@dmrt.net>
wrote:

>> I have a brand new obsd 3.6 and an old pentium-133 based machine with
>> 96 MB memory and a 1.2 GB disk and CD.
>> obsd cd is booted ok and asks a few questions about keyboard/language
>> and then for the allowance to install, which is granted (of course).
>> then after a short "hurray" it tests the disks and stops the shell,
>> telling me it didn't find one!
>> But if I don't boot from the CD but from the harddisk, a nice linux
>> (2.6 kernal) comes up (alternatively some msdos), so there IS some
>> disk.
>> any idea what went wrong?
>
Hi,
thank you for trying to help!
>Not really, i'm missing some crucial information.
>What does your bios say about the disk ?
>
I can normally boot from it as I can from the SCSI-CD-Drive from which
I try to
install the obsd system.

>Does it has some `sort` of harddisk controller card ?
It is an IDE Quantum drive and on it I had a windows and 2 linux
partitions.
I have no extra controller.
The CD is in an external case connected to a TEKRAM395 controller and
I can boot Linux and obsd from it.
>If so, wich brand/model/scsi/ide ?
>
>In case you have some sort of controller card wich isn't
>supported try the onboard IDE controller instead.
>(Changes are pretty big it has one if it's a pentium 133)
?? only obsd cannot see it, msdos, win98 and linux can (suse9.2).
I want to _replace_ these by obsd, but can't.

Thanks,
wolfgang teschner

> The CD is in an external case connected to a TEKRAM395 controller and
> I can boot Linux and obsd from it.

So can i from my firewire based laptop, however either redhat fedora 1,2 (3
can)
,suse 9 etc will boot from the CD/DVD to `then` tell me that it hasn't found
any cdrom player But lets skip this, your disk seems to be IDE and that
doesn't
seem to work.

> It is an IDE Quantum drive and on it I had a windows and 2 linux
> partitions. I have no extra controller. The CD is in an external case
> connected to a TEKRAM395 controller and I can boot Linux and
> obsd from it.

Clear, so the problem lies in the IDE `part` with OpenBSD.
I whould suggest you go to your System BIOS when you
restart your server & select the option "Load BIOS Defaults"
Save the changes and reboot, don't ask just do it

> ?? only obsd cannot see it, msdos, win98 and linux can (suse9.2).
> I want to _replace_ these by obsd, but can't.

Please try the BIOS defaults, it can matter when using Obsd =]

> Thanks,
> wolfgang teschner


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Hi,
I had some similar problem on P90-Hardware with one of the previous
releases, one of 3.4/3.5. It took really long to detect the HDD, several
minutes, but then it started through. For my crap this has been fixed in
3.6, you could suck the old floppies to compare if they work better, but
in the end it won't fix 3.6
Greets,
Dorian

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:34:17 +0100, "Bas Keur" <bas.keur@dmrt.net>
wrote:

....
>
>> It is an IDE Quantum drive and on it I had a windows and 2 linux
>> partitions. I have no extra controller. The CD is in an external case
>> connected to a TEKRAM395 controller and I can boot Linux and
>> obsd from it.
>
>Clear, so the problem lies in the IDE `part` with OpenBSD.
>I whould suggest you go to your System BIOS when you
>restart your server & select the option "Load BIOS Defaults"
>Save the changes and reboot, don't ask just do it
I did so, but nothing changed.
I HAD to change the setup before I could test it, to allow a
boot-from-cd, but that can't have something to do with it.
Can the partitioning of the disk have something to do with the
problem?
I thought that regardless of partitions, I should be able to format
the drive under a running obsd (I bought the CD-pack) and then
installing on it.
I have switched from the SCSI-CD-drive to an IDE one now (a DVD in
fact), but that didn't change a thing (besides being faster than my
very old CD).

>
>> ?? only obsd cannot see it, msdos, win98 and linux can (suse9.2).
>> I want to _replace_ these by obsd, but can't.
>
>Please try the BIOS defaults, it can matter when using Obsd =]
>
Thanks,
wolfgang teschner

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 00:41:03 +0100, Dorian Büttner
<dorian.buettner@gmx.de> wrote:

>Hi,
>I had some similar problem on P90-Hardware with one of the previous
>releases, one of 3.4/3.5. It took really long to detect the HDD, several
>minutes, but then it started through. For my crap this has been fixed in
>3.6, you could suck the old floppies to compare if they work better, but
>in the end it won't fix 3.6
Not only this, here obsd is very fast to not-detect the drive; it
tells me right after its exclamation "great now we install" or what
the text was. Not a second delay.
Also, when I try to read the fstab, I cannot. The minibash seems to be
too small for this task.
Thanks,
wolfgang

>Greets,
>Dorian

>>Hi,
>>I had some similar problem on P90-Hardware with one of the previous
>>releases, one of 3.4/3.5. It took really long to detect the HDD, several
>>minutes, but then it started through. For my crap this has been fixed in
>>3.6, you could suck the old floppies to compare if they work better, but
>>in the end it won't fix 3.6
>
> Not only this, here obsd is very fast to not-detect the drive; it
> tells me right after its exclamation "great now we install" or what
> the text was. Not a second delay.
> Also, when I try to read the fstab, I cannot. The minibash seems to be
> too small for this task.
> Thanks,
> wolfgang
>
>
>>Greets,
>>Dorian

Damn you got some voodoo hardware there mate
Last thing that pops in mind, try disabling the
`Plug and Play OS' options in the bios.
Other than that, i'm lost.


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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:12:14 +0100, Bas Keur <bas.keur@dmrt.net>
wrote:


>> Not only this, here obsd is very fast to not-detect the drive; it
>> tells me right after its exclamation "great now we install" or what
>> the text was. Not a second delay.
>> Also, when I try to read the fstab, I cannot. The minibash seems to be
>> too small for this task.
>> Thanks,
>> wolfgang
>>
>>
>>>Greets,
>>>Dorian
>
>Damn you got some voodoo hardware there mate
>Last thing that pops in mind, try disabling the
>`Plug and Play OS' options in the bios.
>Other than that, i'm lost.

Well unfortunately all I tried got me nowhere.
I added a IDE CD - no change.
I had even switched IDE cables (even when the originally assigned
cable said "master 0") between CD and disk - nearly no change.
In my first configuration, obsd said

Boot from CD 9F
....
disk: fd0, hd0+* cd0

( what meaning is +* ? )
Further, it said fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
rd0: fixed, 3560 blocks
root on rd0a
rootdev = 0x1100 rrootdev = 0x2f00 rawdev = 0x 2f02
....
but later after "proceed?" yes "cool" again
No disks found

When I changed cables, it only found fd0, no hd0 anymore.

Booted obsd from floppy - again no change.

Thanks,
wolfgang