Hi

I am trying to install OpenBSD 3.6 (no prior OpenBSD or BSD experience, but
plenty of Linux experience) on a Dell Poweredge server (SC420).

I used ntrw.exe on a winxp platform to create a floppyb36.fs image and
booted with the floppy. The kernel loads with boot bsd (no bsd.rd file on
the floppy - just one boot file and one bsd file (using ls on boot>
prompt).

Now the install complains that :

pciide0 : channel 1 ignored (not responding; disabled or drives ?)
pciide1 at pci0 at dev 31 function 2 vendor "Intel", unknown product 0x2652
rev 0x03 : DMA (unsupported), channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1
configured to native-PCI

wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0 : <Maxtor 6Y160M0>
.....
.....

.....

rd0 : fixed, 3560 blocks

All the above is white text on a blue (selected style) background on a dark
screen.

The keyboard and everything appears to be dead as the three finger salute
does not work, though I do see messages like :

wskbd0 at pckbd0 : console keyboard, using wsdisplay0

I was under the impression that OpenBSD, a derivative of NetBSD, ran on
almost every platform. I have read about the reputation of OpenBSD
security, so naturally chose it over FreeBSD and Slackware (which I am a
lot more familiar with). Is my platform supported ? If not, should I try
FreeBSD 5.3 Release ?

Thanks.

In article <37s8c0F5i6c61U1@individual.net>,
Madhusudan Singh <spammers-go-here@spam.invalid> writes:
> Hi
>
> I am trying to install OpenBSD 3.6 (no prior OpenBSD or BSD experience, but
> plenty of Linux experience) on a Dell Poweredge server (SC420).
>

This is FreeBSD forum. You may wish to try a forum
that actually cares about OpenBSD.

--
Steve
http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~kargl/

Steven G. Kargl wrote:

> This is FreeBSD forum.

No its not moron.

gtoomey

Madhusudan Singh wrote:

> Hi
>
> I am trying to install OpenBSD 3.6 (no prior OpenBSD or BSD experience,
> but
> plenty of Linux experience) on a Dell Poweredge server (SC420).
>
> I used ntrw.exe on a winxp platform to create a floppyb36.fs image and
> booted with the floppy. The kernel loads with boot bsd (no bsd.rd file on
> the floppy - just one boot file and one bsd file (using ls on boot>
> prompt).
>
> Now the install complains that :
>
> pciide0 : channel 1 ignored (not responding; disabled or drives ?)
> pciide1 at pci0 at dev 31 function 2 vendor "Intel", unknown product
> 0x2652
> rev 0x03 : DMA (unsupported), channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel
> 1 configured to native-PCI
>
> wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0 : <Maxtor 6Y160M0>
> ....
> ....
>
> ....
>
> rd0 : fixed, 3560 blocks
>
> All the above is white text on a blue (selected style) background on a
> dark screen.
>
> The keyboard and everything appears to be dead as the three finger salute
> does not work, though I do see messages like :
>
> wskbd0 at pckbd0 : console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
>
> I was under the impression that OpenBSD, a derivative of NetBSD, ran on
> almost every platform. I have read about the reputation of OpenBSD
> security, so naturally chose it over FreeBSD and Slackware (which I am a
> lot more familiar with). Is my platform supported ? If not, should I try
> FreeBSD 5.3 Release ?
>
> Thanks.

I'm very surprised. I've run openbsd on various platforms and the basic
install works.

I always boot openbsd from a CD. You could try that.

gtoomey

In article <cvaqch$r4$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu>,
Steven G. Kargl <kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
>In article <37s8c0F5i6c61U1@individual.net>,
> Madhusudan Singh <spammers-go-here@spam.invalid> writes:
>> Hi
>>
>> I am trying to install OpenBSD 3.6 (no prior OpenBSD or BSD experience, but
>> plenty of Linux experience) on a Dell Poweredge server (SC420).
>>
>
>This is FreeBSD forum. You may wish to try a forum
>that actually cares about OpenBSD.

Actually, he had cross-posted it to *several* newsgroups:

alt.os.openbsd
comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc

the majority of which *were* OpenBSD specific, with followups set to
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc, so your reply appeared only in the latter --
not in your freebsd newsgroup. I've added it back so you will see this,
and will re-set the followups back to comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc so it
won't continue cross-posted if you reply again. If so -- you may wish
to move to comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc for your reply, to keep your
newsgroup unsullied by the mention of OpenBSD.

I don't know *why* he included your newsgroup in the
cross-posting. He may have thought that there would be some experience
with his Dell Poweredge (SC420) in your newsgroup which could help.

Enjoy,
DoN.
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Gregory Toomey wrote:

> Madhusudan Singh wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am trying to install OpenBSD 3.6 (no prior OpenBSD or BSD experience,
>> but
>> plenty of Linux experience) on a Dell Poweredge server (SC420).
>>
>> I used ntrw.exe on a winxp platform to create a floppyb36.fs image and
>> booted with the floppy. The kernel loads with boot bsd (no bsd.rd file on
>> the floppy - just one boot file and one bsd file (using ls on boot>
>> prompt).
>>
>> Now the install complains that :
>>
>> pciide0 : channel 1 ignored (not responding; disabled or drives ?)
>> pciide1 at pci0 at dev 31 function 2 vendor "Intel", unknown product
>> 0x2652
>> rev 0x03 : DMA (unsupported), channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel
>> 1 configured to native-PCI
>>
>> wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0 : <Maxtor 6Y160M0>
>> ....
>> ....
>>
>> ....
>>
>> rd0 : fixed, 3560 blocks
>>
>> All the above is white text on a blue (selected style) background on a
>> dark screen.
>>
>> The keyboard and everything appears to be dead as the three finger salute
>> does not work, though I do see messages like :
>>
>> wskbd0 at pckbd0 : console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
>>
>> I was under the impression that OpenBSD, a derivative of NetBSD, ran on
>> almost every platform. I have read about the reputation of OpenBSD
>> security, so naturally chose it over FreeBSD and Slackware (which I am a
>> lot more familiar with). Is my platform supported ? If not, should I try
>> FreeBSD 5.3 Release ?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> I'm very surprised. I've run openbsd on various platforms and the basic
> install works.
>
> I always boot openbsd from a CD. You could try that.
>
> gtoomey


I could not find any ISO images for OpenBSD. I imagine that this is done to
encourage people to buy the software.

At present, I am not certain I will stick to OpenBSD (just finished
installing FreeBSD on the server), so I wish to try it out first. I have
heard that OpenBSD is a lot more secure than FreeBSD, so I do want to try
it out.

Madhusudan Singh wrote:

> Gregory Toomey wrote:
>
>> Madhusudan Singh wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I am trying to install OpenBSD 3.6 (no prior OpenBSD or BSD experience,
>>> but
>>> plenty of Linux experience) on a Dell Poweredge server (SC420).
>>>
>>> I used ntrw.exe on a winxp platform to create a floppyb36.fs image and
>>> booted with the floppy. The kernel loads with boot bsd (no bsd.rd file
>>> on the floppy - just one boot file and one bsd file (using ls on boot>
>>> prompt).
>>>
>>> Now the install complains that :
>>>
>>> pciide0 : channel 1 ignored (not responding; disabled or drives ?)
>>> pciide1 at pci0 at dev 31 function 2 vendor "Intel", unknown product
>>> 0x2652
>>> rev 0x03 : DMA (unsupported), channel 0 configured to native-PCI,
>>> channel 1 configured to native-PCI
>>>
>>> wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0 : <Maxtor 6Y160M0>
>>> ....
>>> ....
>>>
>>> ....
>>>
>>> rd0 : fixed, 3560 blocks
>>>
>>> All the above is white text on a blue (selected style) background on a
>>> dark screen.
>>>
>>> The keyboard and everything appears to be dead as the three finger
>>> salute does not work, though I do see messages like :
>>>
>>> wskbd0 at pckbd0 : console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
>>>
>>> I was under the impression that OpenBSD, a derivative of NetBSD, ran on
>>> almost every platform. I have read about the reputation of OpenBSD
>>> security, so naturally chose it over FreeBSD and Slackware (which I am a
>>> lot more familiar with). Is my platform supported ? If not, should I try
>>> FreeBSD 5.3 Release ?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> I'm very surprised. I've run openbsd on various platforms and the basic
>> install works.
>>
>> I always boot openbsd from a CD. You could try that.
>>
>> gtoomey
>
>
> I could not find any ISO images for OpenBSD. I imagine that this is done
> to encourage people to buy the software.
>
> At present, I am not certain I will stick to OpenBSD (just finished
> installing FreeBSD on the server), so I wish to try it out first. I have
> heard that OpenBSD is a lot more secure than FreeBSD, so I do want to try
> it out.

Its actually very simple to install. I've got my 83 year old mother using it!
----------------
Make 2 cds from the mirrors from http://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html#ftp

cd 1 - iso
eg ftp://openbsd.informatik.uni-erlange.../i386/cd36.iso


cd 2: - regular data cd
copy *tgz from
ftp://openbsd.informatik.uni-erlange...nBSD/3.6/i386/
--------------------
Basic setup

Gateway: /etc/mygate:
99.99.99.99

dns server: /etc/resolv.conf
domain site
nameserver 99.99.99.99

NIC: for a realtek 8139: /etc/hostname.rl0
inet 99.99.99.99 255.255.255.0 99.99.99.99

config X:
x686cfg

kde:
pkg_add -v ftp://openbsd.informatik.uni-erlange...base-3.2.3.tgz
startkde


gtoomey

Gregory Toomey wrote:

>
> Its actually very simple to install. I've got my 83 year old mother using
> it! ----------------

I do not doubt that, but I have to get the installation program working
first

> Make 2 cds from the mirrors from http://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html#ftp
>
> cd 1 - iso
> eg ftp://openbsd.informatik.uni-erlange.../i386/cd36.iso
>
>
> cd 2: - regular data cd
> copy *tgz from
> ftp://openbsd.informatik.uni-erlange...nBSD/3.6/i386/

I thought I could install over ftp. The server in question has a DHCP
connection over ethernet. As soon as the OS is installed and I configure
apache and plone, I will move it to a static IP setup with a dedicated
FQDN.

I hope it is easy to change from a DHCP setup to a fixed IP setup.

> --------------------
> Basic setup
>
> Gateway: /etc/mygate:
> 99.99.99.99
>

Aha.

> dns server: /etc/resolv.conf
> domain site
> nameserver 99.99.99.99
>
> NIC: for a realtek 8139: /etc/hostname.rl0
> inet 99.99.99.99 255.255.255.0 99.99.99.99
>
> config X:
> x686cfg
>
> kde:
> pkg_add -v
>
ftp://openbsd.informatik.uni-erlange...base-3.2.3.tgz
> startkde
>

I do not think I will need X or KDE.

Gregory Toomey wrote:

>>>
>>> I'm very surprised. I've run openbsd on various platforms and the basic
>>> install works.
>>>
>>> I always boot openbsd from a CD. You could try that.
>>>
>>> gtoomey
>>
>>
>> I could not find any ISO images for OpenBSD. I imagine that this is done
>> to encourage people to buy the software.
>>
>> At present, I am not certain I will stick to OpenBSD (just finished
>> installing FreeBSD on the server), so I wish to try it out first. I have
>> heard that OpenBSD is a lot more secure than FreeBSD, so I do want to try
>> it out.
>
> Its actually very simple to install. I've got my 83 year old mother using
> it! ----------------
> Make 2 cds from the mirrors from http://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html#ftp
>
> cd 1 - iso
> eg ftp://openbsd.informatik.uni-erlange.../i386/cd36.iso
>

Well, thanks for the hint. I burnt this ISO (from the ftp server at
openbsd.org) and booted off it. Same results as before. install hangs at
precisely the same point.

Someone on the misc mailing list at openbsd.org thinks that it might be due
to the display switching to the serial port mid-boot and advised me to test
this with a serial cable. Or use a snapshot.

If I am to use a snapshot, there are no guarantees that it would be as
secure / stable as the release. So the entire point of using OpenBSD is
lost.

I have never had a boot process conk out on me like this. Especially on a
contemporary i386 platform server from a major vendor (Dell PowerEdge
SC420).

Any other ideas ?

>
> cd 2: - regular data cd
> copy *tgz from
> ftp://openbsd.informatik.uni-erlange...nBSD/3.6/i386/

This is a trifle pointless if I cannot even get the darn thing to boot into
an install.