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| Tim Judd wrote: > MK wrote: > > >>What Mail user agent (if any) for OpenBSD runs pop3s protocol? >> >>Does popa3d? >> >>MK > > > pop3ad is a daemon > > are you sure you meant to spell it "popa3d"? Sorry, small (or was that big) typo? Since OBSD3.2 we lost OpenWebMail, and I do not think its developers (Perl?) were too into the SUID protocol since. I then had https://...OpenWebMail.. Recently I've been forced into being an outsider in my own domain, so I reeealy need secure communications, and POP3 does not quite cut it. MK |
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| On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:00:35 -0500 MK <mkhomo@ostecs.com> wrote: > > pop3ad is a daemon > > are you sure you meant to spell it "popa3d"? > > Sorry, small (or was that big) typo? > Since OBSD3.2 we lost OpenWebMail, and I do not think its developers > (Perl?) were too into the SUID protocol since. I then had > https://...OpenWebMail.. > Recently I've been forced into being an outsider in my own domain, > so I reeealy need secure communications, and POP3 does not quite cut > it. You certainly mean APOP which use crypted password for authentification. mips |
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| MK <mkhomo@ostecs.com> wrote: > What Mail user agent (if any) for OpenBSD runs pop3s protocol? mutt does. I haven't looked further. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de |
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| MK <mkhomo@ostecs.com> wrote: > What Mail user agent (if any) for OpenBSD runs pop3s protocol? Mozilla supports SSL everything, including NNTP, POP3 and IMAP over SSL. Mozilla also supports the STARTTLS and STLS extensions for in-band SSL negotiation of IMAP and POP3, respectively. Though, I don't think popa3d supports in-band negotiation; uw-imap does. KMail and Evolution also support IMAP and POP3 with SSL in one or both forms. Mutt support SSL for IMAP and POP3 (not in-band, as far as I know). Pine might support SSL. |
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| William Ahern wrote: > MK <mkhomo@ostecs.com> wrote: > >>What Mail user agent (if any) for OpenBSD runs pop3s protocol? > > > Mozilla supports SSL everything, including NNTP, POP3 and IMAP over SSL. > Mozilla also supports the STARTTLS and STLS extensions for in-band SSL > negotiation of IMAP and POP3, respectively. Though, I don't think popa3d > supports in-band negotiation; uw-imap does. > > KMail and Evolution also support IMAP and POP3 with SSL in one or both > forms. Mutt support SSL for IMAP and POP3 (not in-band, as far as I know). > Pine might support SSL. > So it seems Mozilla is it. Obsd3.4 came with Moz1.4. I'll look into it and the version for the upcoming Obsd3.5 Thanks. |
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| MK wrote: > Tim Judd wrote: >> MK wrote: >> >> >>>What Mail user agent (if any) for OpenBSD runs pop3s protocol? >>> >>>Does popa3d? >>> >>>MK >> >> >> pop3ad is a daemon >> >> are you sure you meant to spell it "popa3d"? > > Sorry, small (or was that big) typo? > > Since OBSD3.2 we lost OpenWebMail, and I do not think its developers > (Perl?) were too into the SUID protocol since. I then had > https://...OpenWebMail.. > > Recently I've been forced into being an outsider in my own domain, so I > reeealy need secure communications, and POP3 does not quite cut it. If I know my RFC's and behaviour.. ssh is the only one that came with good security and encryption. Most mainstream communication is done clear-text. HTTPS secure SMTP extension SHA1 (which is part of OpenSSH, among others) (information found from rfc-editor.org and searching all fields for 'secure') POP3 security is not a RFC, and pop3ad is built strictly for RFC compliance... hence, no security. I find most nonstandard protocols are made by big-name companies that try to define standards when they are not standard-compliant themself. > MK --TJ |
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| Tim Judd <tjudd.01@hotmail.com> wrote: > If I know my RFC's and behaviour.. ssh is the only one that came with good > security and encryption. Most mainstream communication is done clear-text. <snip> > POP3 security is not a RFC, and pop3ad is built strictly for RFC > compliance... hence, no security. RFC 2595 Section 4 defines the STLS extension for POP3. I wonder how difficult it would be to patch this into popa3d. *looks around* |
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| William Ahern wrote: > MK <mkhomo@ostecs.com> wrote: > >>What Mail user agent (if any) for OpenBSD runs pop3s protocol? > ... > negotiation of IMAP and POP3, respectively. Though, I don't think popa3d > supports in-band negotiation; uw-imap does. I was expecting to see uw-imap in the packages list (for 3.4/i386), but apparently could not find it. Is this a ports only deal? I'm not immediately geared for ports on this laptop. I'll have to check later, unless someone has a ready answer TIA. MK |
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