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| My edge box (OBSD 4.0, soon to be 4.1) has been running on power supplied by one of those cheapo "conditioning" powerbars for a few years. Last night, the powerbar gave up the ghost. I've been thinking of getting a small UPS for some time -- the power quality in Southwest Ontario has gone from bad to worse over the years, and we get brownouts all the time (which my boxes don't seem to notice), and actually 1-2 sec complete outages 1-2 times a week. I know I'm playing with fire with all the unclean shutdowns. I'd like to get a smaller unit that has a serial connection and works with NUT (or whatever) so I can shutdown cleanly on any outage that lasts over a few minutes. It just has to handle two small headless computers (one is a mini-ITX box that sips power) for now, with one of those going away RSN since my new box has the grunt to do everything. Any recommendations? It is easy for me to get my hands on APC and Tripp-Lite stuff, but it is unclear from the NUT UPS compatibility page if the models I'm looking at will actually work. -- clvrmnky <mailto:spamtrap@clevermonkey.org> Direct replies will be blacklisted. Replace "spamtrap" with my name to contact me directly. |
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| "Clever Monkey" <spamtrap@clevermonkey.org.INVALID> wrote in message news:Ttugi.15311$13.12653@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uu net.ca... > My edge box (OBSD 4.0, soon to be 4.1) has been running on power > supplied by one of those cheapo "conditioning" powerbars for a few > years. Last night, the powerbar gave up the ghost. > > I've been thinking of getting a small UPS for some time -- the power > quality in Southwest Ontario has gone from bad to worse over the > years, and we get brownouts all the time (which my boxes don't seem to > notice), and actually 1-2 sec complete outages 1-2 times a week. I > know I'm playing with fire with all the unclean shutdowns. > > I'd like to get a smaller unit that has a serial connection and works > with NUT (or whatever) so I can shutdown cleanly on any outage that > lasts over a few minutes. > > It just has to handle two small headless computers (one is a mini-ITX > box that sips power) for now, with one of those going away RSN since > my new box has the grunt to do everything. > > Any recommendations? It is easy for me to get my hands on APC and > Tripp-Lite stuff, but it is unclear from the NUT UPS compatibility > page if the models I'm looking at will actually work. At home here I have an APC BackUPS 650 Pro, which plays nicely [1] with nut - the "smarts" include monitoring of voltage, load, frequency etc etc - as well as the essential "running on battery" and "battery low" signals that the non-smart versions provide. I'd recommend the smart stuff - it gives a far greater insight into what's going on. [1] Actually, it would be more honest to say that my UPS *should* play nicely with nut. It seems it needs recalibrating - on a brownout it goes instantly to "on battery" *and* "low battery", resulting in the server shutting down cleanly, which is nice - except that by then the power is back on. Gah. I've been through the so-called calibration procedure, but the issue persists. I'm on my third battery in about 7 years, and it seems it's the battery replacement process that required the unit to be recalibrated... On my list of things to sort out "one of these days"... I'm sure it's fixable. Meanwhile, at work, I've just ordered a beast of a UPS: a 3000VA APC model with two auxiliary battery packs which we again expect to work with nut. If you're not sure which models are supported by nut, take a look at /usr/local/share/ups/driver.list - should help. Note that it's important to use the correct cable - there are several types. APC models are well supported. And a 650VA smart model might suit you well. If you need help configuring nut, yell. HTH, Steve http://www.fivetrees.com |
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| According to Clever Monkey <spamtrap@clevermonkey.org.INVALID>: [ ... ] > I've been thinking of getting a small UPS for some time -- the power > quality in Southwest Ontario has gone from bad to worse over the years, > and we get brownouts all the time (which my boxes don't seem to notice), > and actually 1-2 sec complete outages 1-2 times a week. I know I'm > playing with fire with all the unclean shutdowns. > > I'd like to get a smaller unit that has a serial connection and works > with NUT (or whatever) so I can shutdown cleanly on any outage that > lasts over a few minutes. [ ... ] > Any recommendations? It is easy for me to get my hands on APC and > Tripp-Lite stuff, but it is unclear from the NUT UPS compatibility page > if the models I'm looking at will actually work. Well -- what *I* really like are the ones which used to be made by BEST. Incoming AC through a Sola type constant voltage transformer (and a charging circuit which will keep the batteries up full), and on a power outage, the thing switches over to an inverter driving the CV transformer directly through other windings. It keeps a pretty clean sine wave (compared to a lot of switching inverters), and has excellent monitoring and control features. There is a companion program (supplied in source format) called "checkups". With checkups is a script to shut down the computer, and you can tailor it to how long before battery empty status it will start the shutdown procedure. So -- the script can shut the other systems down, then shut itself down, and the UPS will go to standby to preserve some battery life by limiting deep cycle discharges. When power returns, it will all come back to life. The only negative is that a CV transformer is somewhat inefficient, so you get more heat in the computer room -- but you get protected from brownouts and those annoying short outages. (Our short outages seem to be related to trees blowing into the power distribution lines, and tripping a breaker at the substation -- and it comes back on in about three to five seconds. Unfortunately, BEST got bought by someone else some time ago, so you are limited to what you can find at hamfests, on eBay and other used sources. Mine is a 2KVA unit running from four heavy 12V gel cells, and they seem to hold out for about five to six years before I need to replace them -- and you replace all at the same time with matched batteries, or you are asking for trouble There are smaller BEST units, of course. Best of luck, DoN. -- Email: <dnichols@d-and-d.com> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |