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Old 02-22-2008, 12:34 PM
Chris Cappuccio
 
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Default Re: SMP on IBM eseries and amd64

someone mentioned earlier that amd64 had some kind of interrupt problem
and running i386 on the same box should give you significantly more capacity

Lukas Macura [macura@opf.slu.cz] wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I sent some info about our firewall needed to see where is bottleneck
> (see attached email) to smp@. Please can somebody find something usefull
> there ? It would help us too much to speed up our firewall, we choosed
> openBSD even ehen company which made our network wanted to sell PIX. We
> do not like PIX and we want to make a proof that we can do better things
> on openbsd than on PIX. But now it is very slow For now, I heard more
> things to do:
>
> - change to single processor i386 kernel, even if it is SMP machine
> - send some info about througput and statistics (in attached email)
> - do some optimalisations
>
> Now, when througput is near 100Mbps, CPU usage is 100% in
> interrupts..
>
> So do you thing that if we will change system to i386 SP, it will be
> quicker? I am not talking about 10% of speed. I think this system is
> ready to cary min. 6 times more packets/sec (see attached email).
>
> Thank you,
> Lukas Macura.
>
> Ps: Long time ago we used linux and iptables, but pf.conf is great !
> Thanx to all for great work! I do not want to use something else than
> pf
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> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:13:02 +0200
> From: Lukas Macura <macura@opf.slu.cz>
> To: "Berk D. Demir" <bdd@mindcast.org>
> Cc: smp@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: SMP on IBM eseriesand amd64
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> Thanks to all who are helping me!
>
> Yes, it is strange. I heard about this that this machine should have bigger
> throughput. But it does not.. Maybe we will find some bottleneck..
>
> I tried to put some data across the box. Box is slowing connection because
> server was able to achieve 40Mbytes/sec traffic if it did not go across our
> box.
> We have three interfaces (bge0 ad bge1 are input and ouptut ifaces of
> firewall,
> on em0, there are vlans (maybe vlans are slowing communication??) and there is
> DMZ interface vlan4. You see that maximum throughput is around 13Mbytes/sec.
>
> ifstat -i bge0,bge1,em0
> bge0 bge1 em0
> KB/s in KB/s out KB/s in KB/s out KB/s in KB/s out
> 1140.61 1482.30 1846.41 13672.80 12701.09 677.83
> 1961.63 1906.47 2266.95 14208.18 13021.33 1301.74
> 1544.95 1913.62 2515.52 14022.09 12926.79 1226.91
> 1084.10 1814.52 2377.34 13460.40 12318.63 669.62
> 1102.96 1838.74 2237.76 13447.68 12423.09 637.19
> 1013.89 1772.47 2314.35 13391.93 12300.46 626.47
> 1084.60 1593.75 2305.87 13501.58 12369.76 828.49
> 1066.76 1725.85 2146.51 13557.00 12447.68 547.13
> 998.55 1577.78 2157.61 13476.19 12398.57 666.44
> 1125.56 1702.79 2353.74 13546.82 12380.44 774.68
> 1349.65 1671.96 2164.74 13813.20 12460.98 667.28
> 1155.46 1969.64 2501.87 13714.57 12567.29 716.43
> 979.44 2056.51 2591.37 13261.97 12266.25 680.06
> 1126.17 2064.37 2437.21 13480.67 12362.19 533.83
> 1229.66 2086.62 2715.48 13454.45 12257.00 833.42
> 1166.42 1984.17 2503.31 13574.11 12516.47 802.70
> 1141.74 1820.94 2279.01 13584.51 12443.09 632.97
> 1064.19 1972.24 2494.15 13281.63 12261.40 739.20
> 1724.37 1999.30 2470.15 14284.73 13271.40 1364.62
> 1061.01 2081.08 2596.49 13434.53 12417.23 733.66
> 984.57 1849.00 2180.34 13182.10 12117.27 405.91
> 982.43 2310.92 2583.39 13032.67 12008.25 387.75
> 1157.07 2538.57 3016.93 13463.59 12438.74 782.56
> 1338.31 2289.07 2530.70 13566.12 12536.73 715.35
> 1134.96 2159.54 2464.83 13434.33 12355.31 529.81
> 1356.44 1943.62 2311.49 13513.62 12323.27 692.58
> 1024.38 1819.81 2285.28 13275.06 12288.39 666.19
> 1208.24 1757.76 2261.24 13425.95 12333.64 767.69
> 966.42 1702.23 1965.50 13444.56 12452.02 380.01
> 1012.70 1780.69 2173.39 13175.06 12131.25 514.55
> 998.22 1819.66 2416.99 13358.15 12309.87 707.30
> 1029.78 1939.76 2459.17 13429.32 12416.67 706.06
> 908.04 1974.43 2608.94 12978.15 12042.42 771.12
> 894.58 1935.90 2485.24 13197.27 12287.65 705.77
> 848.73 1757.40 2192.18 12844.69 11978.21 572.72
> 600.02 1878.60 2108.00 13096.39 12505.82 378.97
> 987.49 1648.36 2361.47 13334.47 12350.65 882.62
> 980.52 1847.26 2259.06 13469.34 12554.95 646.34
> 912.79 1796.95 2122.29 13211.95 12258.95 434.39
> 658.41 1648.06 1847.83 12798.11 12122.58 315.53
>
> I do not know what is low quality adapter.. These are my adapters:
>
> em0 at pci4 dev 1 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82545GM)" rev 0x04:
> apic 12 int
> 0 (irq 10), address 00:0e:0c:9c:07:13
>
> bge0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5721" rev 0x11, BCM5750 B1
> (0x4101):
> apic 14 int 16 (irq 10) address 00:14:5e:0b:3e:ea
>
> bge1 at pci6 dev 0 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5721" rev 0x11, BCM5750 B1
> (0x4101):
> apic 14 int 16 (irq 10) address 00:14:5e:0b:3e:eb
>
> vmstat 1
> procs memory page disks traps cpu
> r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr sd0 cd0 int sys cs us sy id
> 1 3 0 98944 719784 69 0 0 0 0 0 8 0 3152 1461 189 0 11 89
> 1 3 0 98944 719784 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13199 952 103
> 0 22 78
> 0 3 0 98944 719784 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13332 1010 127
> 0 31 69
> 0 3 0 98944 719784 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13294 868 102
> 0 31 69
> 0 3 0 98944 719784 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13420 1176 143
> 0 27 73
> 0 3 0 98944 719784 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13390 1073 136
> 0 31 69
> 0 3 0 98944 719784 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13409 1050 98
> 0 27 73
> 0 3 0 98944 719784 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13277 1064 124
> 0 24 76
> 0 3 0 98952 719772 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13359 1084 111
> 0 29 71
>
> systat vmstat shows arround 8k interrupts per iface
>
> pfctl -vvvs i
> Status: Enabled for 4 days 22:13:53 Debug: Urgent
>
> Hostid: 0xbd4a2e30
> Checksum: 0x9c14bb48b1ac30341e7da19edc7c32d3
>
> Interface Stats for bge0 IPv4 IPv6
> Bytes In 345357698409 8546928
> Bytes Out 419614550986 1373749
> Packets In
> Passed 538779628 82385
> Blocked 5625101 0
> Packets Out
> Passed 589144477 14869
> Blocked 671466 0
>
> State Table Total Rate
> current entries 10477
> searches 3232606557 7594.8/s
> inserts 21975946 51.6/s
> removals 21965469 51.6/s
> Source Tracking Table
> current entries 0
> searches 0 0.0/s
> inserts 0 0.0/s
> removals 0 0.0/s
> Counters
> match 1307766710 3072.5/s
> bad-offset 0 0.0/s
> fragment 1030 0.0/s
> short 349 0.0/s
> normalize 0 0.0/s
> memory 0 0.0/s
> bad-timestamp 0 0.0/s
> congestion 25715 0.1/s
> ip-option 4593 0.0/s
> proto-cksum 23052 0.1/s
> state-mismatch 534903 1.3/s
> state-insert 199 0.0/s
> state-limit 0 0.0/s
> src-limit 0 0.0/s
> synproxy 1718874 4.0/s
> Limit Counters
> max states per rule 0 0.0/s
> max-src-states 0 0.0/s
> max-src-nodes 0 0.0/s
> max-src-conn 0 0.0/s
> max-src-conn-rate 0 0.0/s
> overload table insertion 0 0.0/s
> overload flush states 0 0.0/s
>
> Congestion of internet link is not problem, I know this. Our line is dedicated
> 1Gpbs full duplex. We are not using hubs but cisco 6550 It has little
> more inteligence than HUB. I hope )
>
>
>
> sysctl net.inet.ip.ifq.maxlen
> net.inet.ip.ifq.maxlen=250
> This was already set before, I found it on some conferrence.
>
> Thank you for any next suggestions!
>
> Lukas Macura
> UIT
>
>
> Quoting "Berk D. Demir" <bdd@mindcast.org>:
>
> > Lukas Macura wrote:
> >> Thank you to your answer, now I know that it has no sense to compile
> >> some new kernels and spend my time
> >>
> >> Our machine is used as firewall, so we really need to pin irqs to both
> >> cpu and to utilise both CPUs. In this situation, we do not achieve
> >> even 100mbit throughput Do you
> >> think it is normal? Is there any other optimalization ? Is ther
> >> possibility to use first cpu for kernel and interrupts and second for
> >> applications? Now only one cpu is utilized..

> >
> > 100mbit is an easy goal to achive with even small PCs.
> >
> > If you use MP kernel, APIC support is enabled and interrupt load on
> > the CPU decreases dramatically. Using MP kernel even on uniprocessor
> > systems offloads the interrupt load.
> >
> > If you're not using a very low quality ethernet adapter, it'll be
> > very much possible to handle ~400mbit/s traffic or ~60K pkts/s loads
> > with uniprocessor but APIC enabled workstations.
> >
> > Use the command "systat vmstat" and watch the interrupts columns on
> > the right. It'll display your network adapter's interrupts. Look for
> > it's iface name. (em0, sk0, bge0, etc.)
> >
> > Normalization, modulation and other features of PF can create
> > significant CPU load. To get detailed info about PF status, use the
> > command "pfctl -vvvs i"
> >
> > "congestion" is your enemy. If it keeps going up, you're probably
> > using a crappy network adapter or your switch (you're not using hubs
> > eh?) is malfunctioning.
> >
> > To avoid congestion you can bump "net.inet.ip.ifq.maxlen" to a value
> > your interface card can handle. I'm using value of 250 for em(4)
> > cards which are generally "Intel PRO/1000MT Dual Port Server Adapter
> > (PWLA8492MT)"
> >
> > Blindly bumping the number won't help but worsen the situation. I'm
> > not an expert on network adapter specs. so you have to search it for
> > yourself.
> >
> > Anyway, if you could reproduce the hogged scenario and post here the
> > outputs of recently mentioned commands, maybe we can find a clue.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > bdd
> >
> >

>
>
>
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> Hello all,
>
> please we have little problem with openbsd runing on $SUBJ.
> I think there could be better irq routing. But I don't know how to
> achieve this. In BIOS, I cannot change IRQ for anything. Every device in
> this server is on same IRQ. I really don't know why but I cannot change
> this. When I boot linux on this machine, IRQ routing is OK, probably
> bacause linux know how to change IRQ of devices.
>
> I do not understand what is difference between int and irq in dmesg.
> Sorry, I am not expert for this. But reality is, that on OpenBSD, only
> one CPU is used. Probably because all interrupts are routed thru this
> CPU. Second CPU is still idle.
>
> Please can somebody help me what to do to utilise second CPU? We need
> more bandwidth and we want to use one NIC/one IRQ. So it shuold bring
> better CPU utilisation. Am I right?
>
> Thanks to all,
> Lukas Macura
>
> Here is dmesg:
> OpenBSD 3.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #6: Thu Nov 3 17:32:14 CET 2005
> root@elvira.opf.slu.cz:/usr/src/sys/...ile/GENERIC.MP
> real mem = 1073319936 (1048164K)
> avail mem = 908783616 (887484K)
> using 22937 buffers containing 107540480 bytes (105020K) of memory
> mainbus0 (root)
> mainbus0: scanning 0x9d400 to 0x9d7f0 for MP signature
> mainbus0: MP floating pointer found in extended bios data area at
> 0x9d540
> mainbus0: MP config table at 0x9e520, 356 bytes long
> mainbus0: Intel MP Specification (Version 1.4) (IBM ENSW X336 SMP )
> cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
> cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz, 3200.71 MHz
> cpu0:
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,P GE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE, SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,NXE,LONG
> cpu0: 2MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu0: calibrating local timer
> cpu0: apic clock running at 200006987Hz
> cpu0: kstack at 0xffff80006585c000 for 20480 bytes
> cpu0: idle pcb at 0xffff80006585c000, idle sp at 0xffff800065860ff0
> cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor)
> cpu1: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz, 3200.12 MHz
> cpu1:
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,P GE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE, SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,NXE,LONG
> cpu1: 2MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu1: kstack at 0xffff800065861000 for 20480 bytes
> cpu1: idle pcb at 0xffff800065861000, idle sp at 0xffff800065865ff0
> mpbios: bus 0 is type PCI
> mpbios: bus 1 is type PCI
> mpbios: bus 2 is type PCI
> mpbios: bus 3 is type PCI
> mpbios: bus 4 is type PCI
> mpbios: bus 5 is type PCI
> mpbios: bus 6 is type PCI
> mpbios: bus 7 is type PCI
> mpbios: bus 8 is type ISA
> ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 14: pa 0xffff800001ba7f24, virtual wire mode,
> version 20, 24 pins
> ioapic1 at mainbus0 apid 13: pa 0xffff800001ba7e24, virtual wire mode,
> version 20, 24 pins
> ioapic2 at mainbus0 apid 12: pa 0xffff800001ba7d24, virtual wire mode,
> version 20, 24 pins
> ioapic0: int1 attached to isa0 irq 1 (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int2 attached to isa0 irq 0 (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int6 attached to isa0 irq 6 (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int8 attached to isa0 irq 8 (type 0x0 flags 0x5)
> ioapic0: int9 attached to isa0 irq 9 (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int12 attached to isa0 irq 12 (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int13 attached to isa0 irq 13 (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int14 attached to isa0 irq 14 (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int15 attached to isa0 irq 15 (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> mpbios: can't find ioapic 0
> ioapic0: int16 attached to pci0 device 29 INT_A (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int19 attached to pci0 device 29 INT_B (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int23 attached to pci0 device 29 INT_D (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int17 attached to pci0 device 31 INT_B (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int16 attached to pci1 device 1 INT_A (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> mpbios: can't find ioapic 0
> ioapic1: int4 attached to pci4 device 1 INT_A (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic2: int0 attached to pci5 device 1 INT_A (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int16 attached to pci6 device 0 INT_A (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> ioapic0: int16 attached to pci7 device 0 INT_A (type 0x0 flags 0x0)
> local apic: int1 attached to NMI (type 0x1 flags 0x0)
> local apic: int0 attached to ExtINT (type 0x3 flags 0x0)
> mainbus0: MP WARNING: 348 bytes of extended entries not examined
> pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
> pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel E7710 SMCH" rev 0x0c
> "Intel E7710 MCH ERR" rev 0x0c at pci0 dev 0 function 1 not configured
> ppb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel E7710 MCH PCIE" rev 0x0c
> pci1 at ppb0 bus 2
> ppb1 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 "Intel E7710 MCH PCIE" rev 0x0c
> pci2 at ppb1 bus 3
> ppb2 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel PCIE-PCIE" rev 0x09
> pci3 at ppb2 bus 4
> mpt0 at pci3 dev 1 function 0 "Symbios Logic 53c1030" rev 0x08: apic 13
> int 4 (irq 10)
> mpt0: sending FW Upload request to IOC (size: 36, img size: 69956)
> mpt0: IM support: 4
> scsibus0 at mpt0: 16 targets
> sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <LSILOGIC, 1030 IM IM, 1000> SCSI2
> 0/direct fixed
> sd0: 139898MB, 139898 cyl, 16 head, 128 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 286511104
> sec total
> mpt0: target 0 Asynchronous at 0MHz width 8bit offset 0 QAS 0 DT 0 IU 0
> ppb3 at pci2 dev 0 function 2 "Intel PCIE-PCIE" rev 0x09
> pci4 at ppb3 bus 5
> em0 at pci4 dev 1 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82545GM)" rev 0x04: apic
> 12 int 0 (irq 10), address 00:0e:0c:9c:07:13
> ppb4 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "Intel E7710 MCH PCIE" rev 0x0c
> pci5 at ppb4 bus 6
> bge0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5721" rev 0x11, BCM5750 B1
> (0x4101): apic 14 int 16 (irq 10) address 00:14:5e:0b:3e:ea
> brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
> ppb5 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "Intel E7710 MCH PCIE" rev 0x0c
> pci6 at ppb5 bus 7
> bge1 at pci6 dev 0 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5721" rev 0x11, BCM5750 B1
> (0x4101): apic 14 int 16 (irq 10) address 00:14:5e:0b:3e:eb
> brgphy1 at bge1 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
> vendor "Intel", unknown product 0x359b (class system subclass
> miscellaneous, rev 0x0c) at pci0 dev 8 function 0 not configured
> uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801EB/ER USB" rev 0x02: apic 14
> int 16 (irq 10)
> usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
> uhub0 at usb0
> uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801EB/ER USB" rev 0x02: apic 14
> int 19 (irq 7)
> usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
> uhub1 at usb1
> uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801EB/ER USB" rev 0x02: apic 14
> int 23 (irq 5)
> usb2 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
> uhub2 at usb2
> uhub2: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
> ppb6 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BA AGP" rev 0xc2
> pci7 at ppb6 bus 1
> vga1 at pci7 dev 1 function 0 "ATI Radeon VE QY" rev 0x00
> wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801EB/ER LPC" rev 0x02
> pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801EB SATA" rev 0x02: DMA,
> channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to
> compatibility
> atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0
> scsibus1 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
> cd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <HL-DT-ST, DVD-ROM GDR8083N, 0L02> SCSI0
> 5/cdrom removable
> cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
> "Intel 82801EB/ER SMBus" rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 not
> configured
> isa0 at pcib0
> isadma0 at isa0
> pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
> pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
> pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
> wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
> pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
> pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
> wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
> pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
> spkr0 at pcppi0
> sysbeep0 at pcppi0
> cpu0: prelint0 0x700 0x0
> cpu0: prelint1 0x400 0x0
> cpu0: timer0 0x300c0 0x0
> cpu0: pcint0 0x10000 0x0
> cpu0: lint0 0x10700 0x0
> cpu0: lint1 0x400 0x0
> cpu0: err0 0x10000 0x0
> ioapic2: int0 0xa070 0x0
> ioapic1: int4 0xa060 0x0
> ioapic0: int16 0xa061 0x0
> ioapic0: int19 0xa062 0x0
> ioapic0: int23 0xa063 0x0
> dkcsum: sd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
> root on sd0a
> rootdev=0x400 rrootdev=0xd00 rawdev=0xd02
> cpu1: prelint0 0x10000 0x0
> cpu1: prelint1 0x10000 0x0
> cpu1: timer0 0x200c0 0x0
> cpu1: pcint0 0x10000 0x0
> cpu1: lint0 0x10700 0x0
> cpu1: lint1 0x400 0x0
> cpu1: err0 0x10000 0x0


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