Hi, its me again.

My -140 doesn´t boot anymore. She always stops at a firmware
checkpoint (like FF1 / FF7) short after the first *pling-pling* where
usually the graphics adapter is powered on. When I switch on the local
console there are yellow stripes running accross the screen.
What else can I say?
-It worked all fine saturday.
-the battery was replaced about half a year ago.
-I didn´t reinsert the 3Com lan adapter.
-Diagnostics won´t run, she doesn´t come that far.

To me, this one sounds like a fryed graphics adapter, but since I have
neiter a spare one nor a serial console, I can´t verify this one.
Also, a broken adapter should not trigger a firmware error, right?

Cu
Jan
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Some days you´re the dog, some days you´re the hydrant.

Jan van Beers <tnp@gmx.ch> wrote in message news:<64omsv4t7d70tnugkkvb85t9uj5n547b02@4ax.com>. ..
> Hi, its me again.
>
> My -140 doesn´t boot anymore. She always stops at a firmware
> checkpoint (like FF1 / FF7) short after the first *pling-pling* where
> usually the graphics adapter is powered on. When I switch on the local
> console there are yellow stripes running accross the screen.
> What else can I say?
> -It worked all fine saturday.
> -the battery was replaced about half a year ago.
> -I didn´t reinsert the 3Com lan adapter.
> -Diagnostics won´t run, she doesn´t come that far.
>
> To me, this one sounds like a fryed graphics adapter, but since I have
> neiter a spare one nor a serial console, I can´t verify this one.
> Also, a broken adapter should not trigger a firmware error, right?
>
> Cu
> Jan

You might want to get the Service Guide for the 43P. You could try
unplugging the graphis card and seeing if the boot sequence gets
further.

Steve

steve@wakefieldrfc.freeserve.co.uk (Steve Nottingham) wrote:
[...]
>You might want to get the Service Guide for the 43P. You could try
>unplugging the graphis card and seeing if the boot sequence gets
>further.

Actually the service guide tells me "spill the machine over the desk,
then rebuild until error reoccurs."
I just wanted to get around this one, since the 43P is (of course) the
machine on bottom of the stack
I´ll post which component caused the failure.

>Steve
Cu
Jan
--
Some days you´re the dog, some days you´re the hydrant.

Hi,
I would suggest removing the Battery for deleting the NVRAM.

regards

Volker


"Jan van Beers" <tnp@gmx.ch> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> steve@wakefieldrfc.freeserve.co.uk (Steve Nottingham) wrote:
> [...]
> >You might want to get the Service Guide for the 43P. You could try
> >unplugging the graphis card and seeing if the boot sequence gets
> >further.
>
> Actually the service guide tells me "spill the machine over the desk,
> then rebuild until error reoccurs."
> I just wanted to get around this one, since the 43P is (of course) the
> machine on bottom of the stack
> I´ll post which component caused the failure.
>
> >Steve
> Cu
> Jan
> --
> Some days you´re the dog, some days you´re the hydrant.

Jan van Beers <tnp@gmx.ch> wrote:
>Actually the service guide tells me "spill the machine over the desk,
>then rebuild until error reoccurs."
>I just wanted to get around this one, since the 43P is (of course) the
>machine on bottom of the stack
>I´ll post which component caused the failure.

Ok, took the whole thing apart. Put it together again. Works. I guess
I do not have to understand.
Will probably start to fail again when I put it back under my hardware
stack.

Cu
Jan
--
If all is not lost, where is it?

Jan van Beers <tnp@gmx.ch> wrote:
[...]
>Will probably start to fail again when I put it back under my hardware
>stack.

Yeah, funny, really funny. REALLY funny. Boy, I´m pissed.
Anyone a -140 to spare?

Cu
Jan
--
Some days you´re the dog, some days you´re the hydrant.

Jan van Beers wrote:
> Jan van Beers <tnp@gmx.ch> wrote:
> [...]
>
>>Will probably start to fail again when I put it back under my hardware
>>stack.
>
>
> Yeah, funny, really funny. REALLY funny. Boy, I´m pissed.
> Anyone a -140 to spare?
>
> Cu
> Jan

Obviously it doesn't like being on the bottom of the stack.
Heat maybe? Are all the fans working?

-- Jason

Jan van Beers <tnp@gmx.ch> wrote in message news:<471ssvsiqel7d7lo0oamc175no5ulplt85@4ax.com>. ..
> Jan van Beers <tnp@gmx.ch> wrote:
> [...]
> >Will probably start to fail again when I put it back under my hardware
> >stack.
>
> Yeah, funny, really funny. REALLY funny. Boy, I´m pissed.
> Anyone a -140 to spare?
>
> Cu
> Jan

Are all the AMD's (air movement devices :-) ) working, including the
one on the CPU heatsink ? Is there sufficent air circulation round the
area of the AMD's ?

I don't know why you are upset about things not working, it could be
worse, you could be working with Windows :-) Hardware does fail from
time to time and occasionaly a reseat does get things working again,
deal with it :-)

Steve

Jason Mather <goz02451@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Obviously it doesn't like being on the bottom of the stack.
>Heat maybe? Are all the fans working?

Nah, its the only machine running, and "the stack" is next to my desk
in my bedroom, so that is not an issue.
I´organize another graphigs adapter and will then have a look.

>-- Jason
Cu
Jan
--
Some days you´re the dog, some days you´re the hydrant.

steve@wakefieldrfc.freeserve.co.uk (Steve Nottingham) wrote:
[...]
>Are all the AMD's (air movement devices :-) ) working, including the
>one on the CPU heatsink ? Is there sufficent air circulation round the
>area of the AMD's ?

I did work for half a day on tuesday, then failed again on wednesday,
so I doubt it is a thermal problem (although I have four disks
installed).

>I don't know why you are upset about things not working, it could be
>worse, you could be working with Windows :-)

hrrr, hrrr, hrr, just like the discussion wether playing CDs backwards
will reveal "satanic messages".
Then someone pointed out that, even worse, playing a CD forward
installed windows

> Hardware does fail from
>time to time and occasionaly a reseat does get things working again,
>deal with it :-)

Yes, but its not like broken -> replace, its more like "I am a little
broken, hmmm tomorow is all fine, oh tuesdayCRASH, will be back on
Saturday"

>Steve
Cu
Jan
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