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Old 01-05-2008, 11:30 AM
Basil Holloway
 
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Default I have sinned, need a guru, not a priest.

Have a 7009-C10 on a 3151 console with AIX 4.3.3.0 (non GUI ) installed.
Got 4330011.tar.gz into /usr/sys/inst.images expanded okay into *.bff files
and a .toc file done.

Ran
installp -acgXd /usr/sys/inst.images smit update_all
instead of
installp -acgXd /usr/sys/inst.images bos.rte.install smit update_all
ie left " bos.rte.install " out of the first command I ran.

in 23 seconds a few things installed successfully , like bos.rte, something
version 4.3.3.81, smit (which briefly flashed across the console screen) and
I was back to the console command line.
Re ran the correct command line but AIX rejected the idea.
Rebooted and tried the correct command line again but AIX was not
interested.
Tried again from within smit but no luck.
# oslevel shows 4.3.3.0
#oslevel -r shows 4320.02
Heck, I have really gone backwards.
Any way to get this installation to 4.3.3.11 or do I have to reinstall from
scratch again.




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Old 01-05-2008, 11:30 AM
uruk-hai
 
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Default Re: I have sinned, need a guru, not a priest.

> Tried again from within smit but no luck.
> # oslevel shows 4.3.3.0
> #oslevel -r shows 4320.02
> Heck, I have really gone backwards.
> Any way to get this installation to 4.3.3.11 or do I have to reinstall from
> scratch again.


What is the output of:
lppchk -v
instfix -i | grep ML

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Old 01-05-2008, 11:31 AM
Basil Holloway
 
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Default Re: I have sinned, need a guru, not a priest.

uruk-hai thanks for reply

"uruk-hai" <fightingurukhai@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175161294.987051.270800@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>> Tried again from within smit but no luck.
>> # oslevel shows 4.3.3.0
>> #oslevel -r shows 4320.02
>> Heck, I have really gone backwards.
>> Any way to get this installation to 4.3.3.11 or do I have to reinstall
>> from
>> scratch again.

>
> What is the output of:
> lppchk -v
> instfix -i | grep ML


#lppchk -v just returns with nothing on the screen to next line # waiting
for another command.

#instfix -i | grep ML output is

All file sets for 4.3.1.0_AIX_ML were found
All file sets for 4.3.2.0_AIX_ML were found
All file sets for AIX43ML were found
All file sets for 4.3.1.0_AIX_ML were found
All file sets for 4.3.2.0_AIX_ML were found
All file sets for 4.3.3.0_AIX_ML were found
Not all file sets for 4330-02_AIX_ML were found
All file sets for 4320-02_AIX_ML were found
Not file sets for 4330-03_AIX_ML were found
Not file sets for 4330-04_AIX_ML were found
Not file sets for 4330-05_AIX_ML were found
Not file sets for 4330-01_AIX_ML were found
Not file sets for 4330-06_AIX_ML were found
Not file sets for 4330-07_AIX_ML were found
Not file sets for 4330-08_AIX_ML were found
Not file sets for 4330-09_AIX_ML were found
Not file sets for 4330-10_AIX_ML were found
Not file sets for 4330-11_AIX_ML were found

thanks
Basil










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Old 01-05-2008, 11:31 AM
uruk-hai
 
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Default Re: I have sinned, need a guru, not a priest.

> #lppchk -v just returns with nothing on the screen to next line # waiting
> for another command.
>
> #instfix -i | grep ML output is
>
> All file sets for 4.3.1.0_AIX_ML were found
> All file sets for 4.3.2.0_AIX_ML were found
> All file sets for AIX43ML were found
> All file sets for 4.3.1.0_AIX_ML were found
> All file sets for 4.3.2.0_AIX_ML were found
> All file sets for 4.3.3.0_AIX_ML were found
> Not all file sets for 4330-02_AIX_ML were found
> All file sets for 4320-02_AIX_ML were found
> Not file sets for 4330-03_AIX_ML were found
> Not file sets for 4330-04_AIX_ML were found
> Not file sets for 4330-05_AIX_ML were found
> Not file sets for 4330-01_AIX_ML were found
> Not file sets for 4330-06_AIX_ML were found
> Not file sets for 4330-07_AIX_ML were found
> Not file sets for 4330-08_AIX_ML were found
> Not file sets for 4330-09_AIX_ML were found
> Not file sets for 4330-10_AIX_ML were found
> Not file sets for 4330-11_AIX_ML were found
>
> thanks
> Basil


Ok, now if you issue oslevel -rl 4330-11 you will see which filesets
you are missing, and by installing those missing filesets you will get
successfully to the 4330-11 level.

Gud luck!

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Old 01-05-2008, 11:31 AM
Basil Holloway
 
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Default Re: I have sinned, need a guru, not a priest.

Uruki-hai

"uruk-hai" <fightingurukhai@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175242187.827877.233330@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
>> #lppchk -v just returns with nothing on the screen to next line # waiting
>> for another command.
>>
>> #instfix -i | grep ML output is
>>
>> All file sets for 4.3.1.0_AIX_ML were found
>> All file sets for 4.3.2.0_AIX_ML were found
>> All file sets for AIX43ML were found
>> All file sets for 4.3.1.0_AIX_ML were found
>> All file sets for 4.3.2.0_AIX_ML were found
>> All file sets for 4.3.3.0_AIX_ML were found
>> Not all file sets for 4330-02_AIX_ML were found
>> All file sets for 4320-02_AIX_ML were found
>> Not file sets for 4330-03_AIX_ML were found
>> Not file sets for 4330-04_AIX_ML were found
>> Not file sets for 4330-05_AIX_ML were found
>> Not file sets for 4330-01_AIX_ML were found
>> Not file sets for 4330-06_AIX_ML were found
>> Not file sets for 4330-07_AIX_ML were found
>> Not file sets for 4330-08_AIX_ML were found
>> Not file sets for 4330-09_AIX_ML were found
>> Not file sets for 4330-10_AIX_ML were found
>> Not file sets for 4330-11_AIX_ML were found
>>
>> thanks
>> Basil

>
> Ok, now if you issue oslevel -rl 4330-11 you will see which filesets
> you are missing, and by installing those missing filesets you will get
> successfully to the 4330-11 level.
>
> Gud luck!
>

Your command #oslevel -rl 4330-11 threw up a list of about 75 files.
How does one find them in the 570 odd *.bff files in /usr/sys/inst.images.
#oslevel -rl 4330-11 gives them in English names not *.bff numerical names.

I suppose to reinstall AIX4.3.3.0 and do the ver11 update will be simpler
and quicker.
Us dumb old retired newbies just have to go the long way around.
Thanks Uruki-hai, you have made me realise one has to be very careful and
accurate with AIX commands.
At least AIX will come back up for a novice whereas Bill's system just gives
you a blue screen.

Now over to my 7011-320 where I am installing a fourth HDD to give me enough
room to get it up from AIX4.1 non gui to 4.3.3.11 gui, but it refuses to
boot in service mode off a AIX 4.3.3 or a RS6000 CD51025.ISO diagnostics
cd, and even refuses the 1A floppy so I can format the new 4329MB hard
drive.

Retirement can be fun.



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Old 01-05-2008, 11:31 AM
uruk-hai
 
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Default Re: I have sinned, need a guru, not a priest.

> Your command #oslevel -rl 4330-11 threw up a list of about 75 files.
> How does one find them in the 570 odd *.bff files in /usr/sys/inst.images.
> #oslevel -rl 4330-11 gives them in English names not *.bff numerical names.
>
> I suppose to reinstall AIX4.3.3.0 and do the ver11 update will be simpler
> and quicker.


Don't give up yet Basil, you can download those files from fixcentral
http://www-912.ibm.com/eserver/support/fixes/fixcentral
Just 75 clicks away

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Old 01-05-2008, 11:31 AM
Niel Lambrechts
 
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Default Re: I have sinned, need a guru, not a priest.

Basil Holloway wrote:
> in 23 seconds a few things installed successfully , like bos.rte, something
> version 4.3.3.81, smit (which briefly flashed across the console screen) and
> I was back to the console command line.

Next time use smitty so you can capture output (in /smit.log). If you
use smit, it helps you keep track with what you did and at what date,
which is good for auditing.

> Re ran the correct command line but AIX rejected the idea.
> Rebooted and tried the correct command line again but AIX was not
> interested.
> Tried again from within smit but no luck.

What does the output look like?

> # oslevel shows 4.3.3.0
> #oslevel -r shows 4320.02
> Heck, I have really gone backwards.


instfix -ciqk 4330-11_AIX_ML|grep ":-:"

will show you all filesets below ML11.

Regards,
Niel
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Old 01-05-2008, 11:31 AM
Basil Holloway
 
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Default Re: I have sinned, need a guru, not a priest.

Uruk-hai and Neil
Thank you very much for your advice, but every avenue I tied to get the
files off that link an IBM ID was required. Have applied for one on several
occasions and been approved by Australia, denignied by New York, reapproved
by Hongkong then had the whole thing cancelled by an email I cannot reply
to.
Ibm Australia has tied me up in red tape. They ship me things on account but
insist I have no account. They ship me publications and will not charge me.
They ship me goods against my credit card. I owe them money, but they ignore
requests for an account. Sent them a cheque, but it was returned as not a
valid account. Over the last few months have dozens of emails from as many
branches of IBM. I have never dealt with such a strange Company in nearly 50
years in business.
To fill you in on some background, my lack of knowledge ties me up in knots.
Have a 7012-250 with AIX 4.3.3.11 + Netscape on a P2P network but cannot get
it to communicate with anyone except the WWW so cannot use it for downloads
as no burner.
My 7012-320 only has AIX4.2.1.0 and am trying to upgrade it to 4.3.3.11.
This machine has a Gt3i and 6091-19i monitor so I figure if I can get it to
4.3.3.11, I can network it with the 7012-250 as a learning exercise. See
seperate post.
So any downloads have to be done on an XP machine and burnt to CD.
Tomorrow will take the cowards way out and just start from scratch again on
an AIX 4.3.3.0 reinstall and a ver 11 update on 7009-c10. This little
critter refuses to accept a Gt3I or a GT4e and 6091-19i monitor. Perhaps
getting it to 4.3.3.11 will make it see sense.
Will learn this AIX yet.


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Old 01-05-2008, 11:32 AM
John Hoover
 
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Default Re: I have sinned, need a guru, not a priest.

I've had fairly good luck letting IBM's download manager decide what
needed to be installed... Try going here:
http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp...e=43&b=4330-11
Click on the download tab at the top, then "I Agree". Select 4330-02
in the oslevel, then run lslpp -Lc >> dl.txt on the box, and upload
the dl.txt file in the next box. This will create a custom download
package for this machine... if it doesn't leave you completely at
4.3.3.0-11, at least it should be less than 75 packages needed to
download to get there.

As for your 7011-320. It may need a firmware update in order to boot
AIX 4.3.x I have this problem with some 7025-F80 and 7025-6F1 that did
not want to boot AIX 5.3, and would actually corrupt NVRAM if I tried.
Had to pop the battery out for a few minutes to get them to boot at
all after attempting boot from AIX 5.3 disc1 or AIX 5.3 Diag disk.

One problem you might also be running into with downloading on an XP
PC and then transferring over is that Windows is not case specific on
file names. You might have packages called bos.rte.EN.11.bff and
bos.rte.en.11.bff. Windows would see them as the same file and only
keep or download one of the two. I ran into this problem as well. Best
solution I found for AIX boxen with no gui was to go through to the
point of download on the Windows machine, then select FTP for the
download method and grab them on AIX that way.

HTH

On Mar 29, 2:31 am, "Basil Holloway" <farl7F...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Have a 7009-C10 on a 3151 console with AIX 4.3.3.0 (non GUI ) installed.
> Got 4330011.tar.gz into /usr/sys/inst.images expanded okay into *.bff files
> and a .toc file done.
>
> Ran
> installp -acgXd /usr/sys/inst.images smit update_all
> instead of
> installp -acgXd /usr/sys/inst.images bos.rte.install smit update_all
> ie left " bos.rte.install " out of the first command I ran.
>
> in 23 seconds a few things installed successfully , like bos.rte, something
> version 4.3.3.81, smit (which briefly flashed across the console screen) and
> I was back to the console command line.
> Re ran the correct command line but AIX rejected the idea.
> Rebooted and tried the correct command line again but AIX was not
> interested.
> Tried again from within smit but no luck.
> # oslevel shows 4.3.3.0
> #oslevel -r shows 4320.02
> Heck, I have really gone backwards.
> Any way to get this installation to 4.3.3.11 or do I have to reinstall from
> scratch again.



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