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Old 01-04-2008, 06:44 PM
Dr. David Kirkby
 
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Default Installation problems with AIX 5.2

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm new to AIX and are rather stuck.

I've been trying to install AIX 5.2 from a set of CD's (direct from
IBM) on to a IBM RS/6000 7025 F50. The main set of CDs (1-6) are
marked:

AIX 5L for POWER V 5.2
5765-E62
10/2002

Despite the fact the system is now up and running, with CDE +
networking working, I'm not convinced the installation is complete or
very good.

These are my specific problems/questions. Any suggestions welcome.

1) Can anyone tell me the names on the CDs? I have a set which has
numbers 1-6,
Update CD, Documentation CD and the Linux applications CD/GNU stuff
(that CD is in my garage at the minute, so I'm not sure exactly what
it has on it).

Am I any CD's missing? I suspect I might be, since at one point the
installation asks for a non-existant CD, the name of which I forgot.

2) When booting from CD #1, it complained there were missing filesets.

devices.isa_sio.8042
devices.isa_sio.fdc
devices.isa_sio.parallel
devices.isa_sio.serial
devices.pci.MTRX.Mystique
devices.pci.display
devices.pci.ethernet
devices.pci.pcilass.010000 (I can't read my own writing - lass might
be wrong)
devices.pci.pcilass.020000 (I can't read my own writing - lass might
be wrong)
devices.pci.pcilass.030000 (I can't read my own writing - lass might
be wrong)
devices.pci.scsi

I can't understand why the filesets should be missing off the first
CD. Looking on the CD, I can see these files don't exist. I've not
looked on the other CDs for the filesets, but errors were produced
after booting from the first CD.

It seems very odd for the install to decide it needs filesets that
don't exist on the CD and so produce error messages.

3) Despite the fact I elected to install Netscape when installing the
base operating system, this could not be installed, as again it could
not find the filesets. (Whether this was for Netscape, or a perquisite
for Netscape, I don't recall).

4) At one point the installation requested a CD that I don't have. I
can't recall the name of the CD, but it was neither 1-6, Update CD,
Documentation CD or the Linux applications CD - the only ones I have.
There was an option to press 'q' to quit that CD, so I did that, and
proceeded with the other CDs.

5) I'm in the UK, so selected the UK options when installing. One of
things I needed to enter was the type of keyboard. There were two
choices, based on whether there was a * above the number 8 on the
keyboard, or some other character, which I can't recall. I selected
the keyboard with the *, as that is what I have.

Now shift-3 produces a UK pound sign, not a hash, despite the fact the
keyboard has a hash above the number 3. Hence I can't put a comment
(which usually begins with a hash) in a file. I can't produce the
'pipe' operator either, so doing something like

ps -el | grep cron

won't work. Luckily, its networked to another machine, so I can do
such operations remotely.

6) I've tried to install IBM's C compiler (version 6.0). That
complains:

MISSING REQUISITES: The following filesets are required by one or
more
of the selected filesets listed above. They are not currently
installed and could not be found on the installation media.

bos.loc.utf.EN_US 4.1.0.0 # Base Level Fileset

The fileset bos.loc.utf.EN_US does exist on AIX 5.2 CD #4, but it
can't be installed since it needs fileset

bos.loc.com.utf 4.3.2.0 # Base Level Fileset

which does not appear to exist anywhere.


Am I a CD missing? I'm sorry I don't recall the name of the CD, but
I'm sure I'll reconise it if someone says 'you should have a CD called
X too'.

--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Senior Research Fellow,
Department of Medical Physics,
University College London,
11-20 Capper St, London, WC1E 6JA.
Tel: 020 7679 6408 Fax: 020 7679 6269
Internal telephone: ext 46408
e-mail davek@medphys.ucl.ac.uk
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Old 01-04-2008, 06:44 PM
Dr. David Kirkby
 
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Default Re: Installation problems with AIX 5.2

Simon Edmonds wrote:
>
> Do you have a CD marked as Expansion Pack & Bonus Pack (on the same CD) ?
> If so, it could be possible the two CD's have been tar'ed onto one CD and
> will need to be untarred, I had the same problem but I'm probably using a
> different set of CDs.....
>
> You may also want to use this command:
>
> lppchk -v
>
> Regards,


There is neither an 'expansion pack' or 'Bonus pack'.

I have 9 CD's in total with AIX 5.2.

AIX 5L for POWER V 5.2 5765-E62 10/2002 Volume 1 of 6
AIX 5L for POWER V 5.2 5765-E62 10/2002 Volume 2 of 6
AIX 5L for POWER V 5.2 5765-E62 10/2002 Volume 3 of 6
AIX 5L for POWER V 5.2 5765-E62 10/2002 Volume 4 of 6
AIX 5L for POWER V 5.2 5765-E62 10/2002 Volume 5 of 6
AIX 5L for POWER V 5.2 5765-E62 10/2002 Volume 6 of 6
AIX 5L for POWER V 5.2 5765-E62 Documentation CD. (no date on it)
AIX 5L for POWER V 5.2 5765-E62 Update CD 02/2003.
AIX toolbox for Linux Applications for POWER Systems, featuring GNU
Software 10/2002.

I'd like to know if that is normal for AIX 5.2.

The software was obtained at zero cost under IBM's Scholars program:

http://www-3.ibm.com/software/info/university/

so I'm not sure this is same set of CDs that would be obtained with a
commercial version of AIX. However, it seems odd that the installation
is requesting a CD that does not exist.

Since I was silly and did not write down the name of the CD requested,
I'm not exactly making my life easy!!

--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Senior Research Fellow,
Department of Medical Physics,
University College London,
11-20 Capper St, London, WC1E 6JA.
Tel: 020 7679 6408 Fax: 020 7679 6269
Internal telephone: ext 46408
e-mail davek@medphys.ucl.ac.uk
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Old 01-04-2008, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: Installation problems with AIX 5.2

"Dr. David Kirkby" <drkirkby@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<3F08DC83.AF45FC95@ntlworld.com>...
> 1) Can anyone tell me the names on the CDs? I have a set which has
> numbers 1-6,
> Update CD, Documentation CD and the Linux applications CD/GNU stuff
> (that CD is in my garage at the minute, so I'm not sure exactly what
> it has on it).


You should have 2 additionnal cdroms , bonus pack and expansion pack
cdroms. It's possible they have been tarred on another cd (never seen
that), but as Netscape is on one of these 2 (never remember which, the
expansion I think), this is why you eventually haven't netscape
(latest version can be downloaded from netscape's site). On these
cdroms you can find Adobe Reader, various evaluation software, ...

>
> 2) When booting from CD #1, it complained there were missing filesets.
>


Not sure, only got a theory : AIX installation program first
determines your configuration, then selects which fileset to install
(the Table of Content of each cdrom of AIX lists the whole filesets of
AIX - not only those on the cdrom; therefore it's possible for the
installer to know whiwh filesets to install before having actually
found them). At the time he was loking for them, they were not on the
first cdrom, I presume they have been installed later.

You can check this with
lslpp -al | grep partial_name_of_the_fileset

Of course yo have first to sort the pipe problem out )

> Now shift-3 produces a UK pound sign, not a hash, despite the fact the
> keyboard has a hash above the number 3. Hence I can't put a comment
> (which usually begins with a hash) in a file. I can't produce the
> 'pipe' operator either, so doing something like


There is probably a more accurate choice for your keyboard. Don't know
for english, but for french environment you've gout several versions
such as ISO8859-1, ISO8859-15, alternate or non alternate, ...

Try to look in smitty => systems environnment => language management
=> primary language (not sure of the name of this item, but it is the
first of the smit menu).

When you browse the keyboards list, scroll the screen on the right
(right arrow) to be able to completely read the output as it is often
truncated, you could have missed something.

>
> 6) I've tried to install IBM's C compiler (version 6.0). That
> complains:
>


It seems you selected some filesets not related to you environement
(but related to AIX 4.1) , ie you rather should select INDIVIDUAL
filesets, because if you select the whole package it'll try to install
some libraries related to older versions of AIX - thus the error
message you have.

regards,
johann
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Dr. David Kirkby
 
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Default Re: Installation problems with AIX 5.2

"yijing@altern.org" wrote:
>
> "Dr. David Kirkby" <drkirkby@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<3F08DC83.AF45FC95@ntlworld.com>...
> > 1) Can anyone tell me the names on the CDs? I have a set which has
> > numbers 1-6,
> > Update CD, Documentation CD and the Linux applications CD/GNU stuff
> > (that CD is in my garage at the minute, so I'm not sure exactly what
> > it has on it).

>
> You should have 2 additionnal cdroms , bonus pack and expansion pack
> cdroms. It's possible they have been tarred on another cd (never seen
> that), but as Netscape is on one of these 2 (never remember which, the
> expansion I think), this is why you eventually haven't netscape
> (latest version can be downloaded from netscape's site). On these
> cdroms you can find Adobe Reader, various evaluation software, ...


Yes, it was probably the Expansion CD that it was asking for. I did
not have that, so were stuck. I'll ask IBM if that was supposed to be
in the package. I did not buy these as such, but got them free for
academic research. It's possible such non-commerical sets don't
include all of the CDs that the commerical version does. I've no
idea.

> > 2) When booting from CD #1, it complained there were missing filesets.
> >

>
> Not sure, only got a theory : AIX installation program first
> determines your configuration, then selects which fileset to install
> (the Table of Content of each cdrom of AIX lists the whole filesets of
> AIX - not only those on the cdrom; therefore it's possible for the
> installer to know whiwh filesets to install before having actually
> found them). At the time he was loking for them, they were not on the
> first cdrom, I presume they have been installed later.



Thanks, someone else has said that too.


> You can check this with
> lslpp -al | grep partial_name_of_the_fileset
>
> Of course yo have first to sort the pipe problem out )


Cheers - another useful command to know. When I get to work and have
access to a decent fast laser printer, I'll print out some of the
Redbooks to learn a bit more. It's not very practical printing them on
an old inkject printer.

> > Now shift-3 produces a UK pound sign, not a hash, despite the fact the
> > keyboard has a hash above the number 3. Hence I can't put a comment
> > (which usually begins with a hash) in a file. I can't produce the
> > 'pipe' operator either, so doing something like

>
> There is probably a more accurate choice for your keyboard. Don't know
> for english, but for french environment you've gout several versions
> such as ISO8859-1, ISO8859-15, alternate or non alternate, ...


> Try to look in smitty => systems environnment => language management
> => primary language (not sure of the name of this item, but it is the
> first of the smit menu).



Thanks, I'll have to leave that for another day, as there is no
monitor on the machine, so checking this will be difficult, but
perhaps not impossible.


> > 6) I've tried to install IBM's C compiler (version 6.0). That
> > complains:

> It seems you selected some filesets not related to you environement
> (but related to AIX 4.1) , ie you rather should select INDIVIDUAL
> filesets, because if you select the whole package it'll try to install
> some libraries related to older versions of AIX - thus the error
> message you have.



I've got the C compiler installed now. I'm not 100% happy with it, but
that will be another post.

--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Senior Research Fellow,
Department of Medical Physics,
University College London,
11-20 Capper St, London, WC1E 6JA.
Tel: 020 7679 6408 Fax: 020 7679 6269
Internal telephone: ext 46408
e-mail davek@medphys.ucl.ac.uk
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