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Old 01-05-2008, 07:38 AM
SBC Global News
 
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Default LIBPATH in 5.3L

We are currently testing out 5.3L.

I am finding a few differences from 4.3+.

One is LIBPATH is not passed on to the
job when submitting it in the batch queue.

How do I disable this behavior? Or shall
I say how can I pass on to the child process
the LIBPATH variable?

Thanks in advance.



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Old 01-05-2008, 07:39 AM
Laurenz Albe
 
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Default Re: LIBPATH in 5.3L

SBC Global News <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
> We are currently testing out 5.3L.
>
> I am finding a few differences from 4.3+.
>
> One is LIBPATH is not passed on to the
> job when submitting it in the batch queue.
>
> How do I disable this behavior? Or shall
> I say how can I pass on to the child process
> the LIBPATH variable?


Sorry to give such a trivial answer, but your description seems to
suggest that you didn't export the environment variable.

Does the problem go away if you type
export LIBPATH
before invoking the batch job?

Yours,
Laurenz Albe
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Old 01-05-2008, 07:39 AM
Bernard Dhooghe
 
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Default Re: LIBPATH in 5.3L

Tested on 5300-01 and 5300-03.

Confirm the described behavior on both versions.

Solution?

Bernard Dhooghe

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Old 01-05-2008, 07:39 AM
C C
 
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Default Re: LIBPATH in 5.3L

Yes.

A script submits a job to a batch queue:
qprt -P$myqueue -C -T "$PROGID" qbatchexec

The script that submits the above job determines the
queue name (in $myqueue variable) that the job will run under, export all
variables
needed by qbatchexec (another script), including LIBPATH.

When qbatchexec is under the control of the batch queue, I echo $LIBPATH
at the beginning of the script. AND LIBPATH is empty!

This is the scenario.

Thanks for any input on this.
"Laurenz Albe" <invite@spam.to.invalid> wrote in message
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> SBC Global News <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> We are currently testing out 5.3L.
>>
>> I am finding a few differences from 4.3+.
>>
>> One is LIBPATH is not passed on to the
>> job when submitting it in the batch queue.
>>
>> How do I disable this behavior? Or shall
>> I say how can I pass on to the child process
>> the LIBPATH variable?

>
> Sorry to give such a trivial answer, but your description seems to
> suggest that you didn't export the environment variable.
>
> Does the problem go away if you type
> export LIBPATH
> before invoking the batch job?
>
> Yours,
> Laurenz Albe



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Old 01-05-2008, 07:39 AM
Hajo Ehlers
 
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Default Re: LIBPATH in 5.3L

Bernard Dhooghe wrote:
> Tested on 5300-01 and 5300-03.
>
> Confirm the described behavior on both versions.
>
> Solution?


I do not know if it helps but i have found on aix 5.1 that if i change
from a lower security and a different shell to root i will lose PATH
and LIBPATH environment. PATH is set to absolut minimum plus extensions
in root's profile.
LIBPATH is wiped out.

Example: ( ksh -> bash -> ksh )
login as root (ksh)
$ echo $LIBPATH
/usr/lib

$su - bashuser
$ echo $LIBPATH
/usr/lib


$su - root
$ echo $LIBPATH
[EMPTY]

The same for a ksh-user ( ksh -> ksh -> ksh )

login as root (ksh)
$ echo $LIBPATH
/usr/lib

$su - kskuser
$ echo $LIBPATH
/usr/lib

$su - root
$ echo $LIBPATH
/usr/lib


So you might check ' which process does have which right' for each
process in you command chain.

You should read also:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infoce...6b%73%68%22%20

Technical Reference: Base Operating System and Extensions, Volume 1
exec: execl, execle, execlp, execv, execve, execvp, or exect Subroutine
....
The LIBPATH variable, when set, is used in favor of LD_LIBRARY_PATH;
otherwise, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is used. These library path variables are
ignored when the program that the exec subroutine is run on has more
privilege than the calling program (for example, an suid program).
....

hth
Hajo

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Old 01-05-2008, 07:39 AM
C C
 
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Default Re: LIBPATH in 5.3L

IBM said that for security, the LIBPATH is removed if you su to another
user.

BUT the parent/child/more_child processes are running within my own
environment. LIBPATH is always blank in all child processes. I may
have to re-export LIBPATH in all scripts as a workaround.


"Hajo Ehlers" <service@metamodul.com> wrote in message
news:1129574638.200344.90240@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
> Bernard Dhooghe wrote:
>> Tested on 5300-01 and 5300-03.
>>
>> Confirm the described behavior on both versions.
>>
>> Solution?

>
> I do not know if it helps but i have found on aix 5.1 that if i change
> from a lower security and a different shell to root i will lose PATH
> and LIBPATH environment. PATH is set to absolut minimum plus extensions
> in root's profile.
> LIBPATH is wiped out.
>
> Example: ( ksh -> bash -> ksh )
> login as root (ksh)
> $ echo $LIBPATH
> /usr/lib
>
> $su - bashuser
> $ echo $LIBPATH
> /usr/lib
>
>
> $su - root
> $ echo $LIBPATH
> [EMPTY]
>
> The same for a ksh-user ( ksh -> ksh -> ksh )
>
> login as root (ksh)
> $ echo $LIBPATH
> /usr/lib
>
> $su - kskuser
> $ echo $LIBPATH
> /usr/lib
>
> $su - root
> $ echo $LIBPATH
> /usr/lib
>
>
> So you might check ' which process does have which right' for each
> process in you command chain.
>
> You should read also:
> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infoce...6b%73%68%22%20
>
> Technical Reference: Base Operating System and Extensions, Volume 1
> exec: execl, execle, execlp, execv, execve, execvp, or exect Subroutine
> ...
> The LIBPATH variable, when set, is used in favor of LD_LIBRARY_PATH;
> otherwise, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is used. These library path variables are
> ignored when the program that the exec subroutine is run on has more
> privilege than the calling program (for example, an suid program).
> ...
>
> hth
> Hajo
>



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Old 01-05-2008, 07:40 AM
Hajo Ehlers
 
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Default Re: LIBPATH in 5.3L


C C wrote:
> IBM said that for security, the LIBPATH is removed if you su to another
> user.

Not only su . The most important point is:

... exec subroutine is run on has >>>more privilege<<< than the calling
program

So from my understanding your qbatchexec will be started in the
follwoing order

script -> qprt -> qbatchexec

Since qprt has the owner bin:bin i would think that is has more
privilege then the script that will exec qprt.

A solution would be to create a perl suid script which will start the
qprt or like you said all final scripts have to reimport the LIBPATH
variable.

hth
Hajo

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