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Old 01-05-2008, 05:23 AM
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Default Windows server OS on RS6000?

Hello,

could be that I'am totally wrong here in this group.
But I'am wondering if MS Windows OS can run on an RS6000 machine.

I can imaging that the there would be no drivers for the hardware.

do RS6000 run on RISC processors?

Thanks in advance,
rel.

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Old 01-05-2008, 05:23 AM
Jetze Mellema
 
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Default Re: Windows server OS on RS6000?

rel wrote:
> could be that I'am totally wrong here in this group.


No, you're not.

> But I'am wondering if MS Windows OS can run on an RS6000 machine.


No, it can't.

> I can imaging that the there would be no drivers for the hardware.


The hardware platform is unsupported.
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Old 01-05-2008, 05:23 AM
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Default Re: Windows server OS on RS6000?

rel <rel@invalid.invalid> writes:

> But I'am wondering if MS Windows OS can run on an RS6000 machine.


It can if/when MS ports Windows to PowerPC.

> I can imaging that the there would be no drivers for the hardware.


Of course there would be no drivers. There isn't even the OS,
how could there be any drivers ;-)

> do RS6000 run on RISC processors?


RS6000 *is* a RISC processor family.

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Old 01-05-2008, 05:23 AM
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Default Re: Windows server OS on RS6000?

Jetze Mellema wrote:
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>> I can imaging that the there would be no drivers for the hardware.

>
> The hardware platform is unsupported.


Hi Jetze,

not supported as in not possible?
There is a powerpc version of windows NT, could this
run on the hardware.

Any site where to read about this?

groeten,
rel.
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Old 01-05-2008, 05:23 AM
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In article <m3vfb3k0qb.fsf@salmon.parasoft.com>, Paul Pluzhnikov <ppluzhnikov-nsp@charter.net> wrote:
> rel <rel@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>> But I'am wondering if MS Windows OS can run on an RS6000 machine.

>
> It can if/when MS ports Windows to PowerPC.


They did, in the mid-1990s.

It was a very short-lived port... was soon cancelled, as was the DEC
Alpha port and I think, the MIPS port. I haven't thought about that
stuff in about 10 years, so memory is a little vague on details, but
they _did_ have Windows running on several RS6K models.

Then IBM changed their mind about where the PC server market was headed,
and probably stopped funding the port. (Various vendors paid Microsoft
to do ports; I know DEC did, for the Alpha port.)

It wouldn't be worth running these ports today; very old OS version,
unsupported, and had *very* few apps compiled for the platform, ran on
very few and specific hardware models, etc.

Unless something radical happens, MS is unlikely to redo the port,
unless POWER5 and its successors somehow captures a significant market
segment that they'd like to sell to.

But the NT-derived code base itself, as I understand it, is well written
from a portability perspective as a 'just in case' as well as to
facilitate the early code development done on Alphas.

So there's no real technical reason why MS couldn't do it again for any
existing or new platforms in the future; they only need to have a
compelling business case driver to do so.

I honestly don't miss the lack of Windows on 'real' server hardware.

-Dan
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Old 01-05-2008, 05:23 AM
Mark Taylor
 
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Default Re: Windows server OS on RS6000?

You have a couple of options here.... run Linux-PPC on the RS6K and get
vmware to emulate the intel architecture, or you could compile "bochs"
to emulate the intel architecture. Or you can compile "bochs" on AIX...

http://bochs.sourceforge.net/
Windoze wont run native though.

HTH
Mark Taylor

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Old 01-05-2008, 05:24 AM
Uli Link
 
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> You have a couple of options here.... run Linux-PPC on the RS6K and get
> vmware to emulate the intel architecture,...


Only an option *if* you can buy VMWare for PPC...

But I think I still can find a Windows 3.1 emulator called "Wabi" on a
3.2.5 CD-ROM for the Tadpole RS/6000 notebook.

I was able to play Minesweeper and Solitaire on AIX 4.1.5. For real
Windows apps it was damned sloooow.

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Old 01-05-2008, 05:28 AM
James T. Sprinkle
 
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Default Re: Windows server OS on RS6000?

Hi! Get a copy of bochs and see if you can get it to build on your RS.
Then you can emulate a PC and install your Windows on top of it. I built
bochs awhile back on an RS running AIX 5.1 and I remember having to modify
some of the source code to get it to build...

http://bochs.sourceforge.net

JaYmZ

"rel" <rel@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> could be that I'am totally wrong here in this group.
> But I'am wondering if MS Windows OS can run on an RS6000 machine.
>
> I can imaging that the there would be no drivers for the hardware.
>
> do RS6000 run on RISC processors?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> rel.
>



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