I've got this 12MB voodoo2 siting around and thought I'd run the X server
on it. Xfree86.org refers to a "glide" driver but there's nothing in the X
server drivers directory.

What I would like to do is to run X on this card and replace the S3 that
runs only with fbdev driver.


Thanks
joseph

In newsan.2003.10.24.19.34.08.923277@nntp.will.suff ice,
joseph philip <joseph@nntp.will.suffice> rambled:
> I've got this 12MB voodoo2 siting around and thought I'd run the X
> server on it. Xfree86.org refers to a "glide" driver but there's
> nothing in the X server drivers directory.
>
> What I would like to do is to run X on this card and replace the S3
> that runs only with fbdev driver.
>

Isn't a voodoo 2 3d only without any 2d support whatsoever ?

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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:51:38 +0100, Billy Watt <newsspam@cjwatt.plus.net> wrote:
> Isn't a voodoo 2 3d only without any 2d support whatsoever ?

Good memory. :-)

Indeed, it is... if you had a Banshee, though, you have the 2d side of
things as well.

AFAIK, you have to plug a Voodoo2 into another card to get things
working properly with it. I never had the opportunity to play with
that, though, as I went right to the Voodoo3 from my 4MB graphics card
days.

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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:22:10 -0700, AthlonRob wrote:

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> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:51:38 +0100, Billy Watt
> <newsspam@cjwatt.plus.net> wrote:
>> Isn't a voodoo 2 3d only without any 2d support whatsoever ?
>
> Good memory. :-)
>
> Indeed, it is... if you had a Banshee, though, you have the 2d side of
> things as well.
>
> AFAIK, you have to plug a Voodoo2 into another card to get things
> working properly with it. I never had the opportunity to play with
> that, though, as I went right to the Voodoo3 from my 4MB graphics card
> days.


With the correct driver, X can use the Voodoo2's glide api to draw on to
the screen. I looked about for glide driver for X, but nothing came up.
linux.3dfx.com seems to have disappeared.

I did get this card working once, under readhat 6.0 for linux games. That
was so long ago I forgot how I got it to work.

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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:29:29 -0400, joseph philip <joseph@nntp.will.suffice> wrote:
> With the correct driver, X can use the Voodoo2's glide api to draw on to
> the screen. I looked about for glide driver for X, but nothing came up.
> linux.3dfx.com seems to have disappeared.

That seems like it would be very hard on running a fast system... glide
just isn't going to be as easy on the CPU cycles as a plain old 2d video
card would be.

linux.3dfx.com is likely down as 3dfx no longer exists. nVidia bought
them out quite some time ago.

> I did get this card working once, under readhat 6.0 for linux games. That
> was so long ago I forgot how I got it to work.

You'll get equal performance out of just about any AGP card these days.
In fact, you'd probably have to look pretty hard for a low-end card that
couldn't provide you with equal performance.. I'd drop $50 on a GeForce4
MX 440 if I were you.

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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:15:08 -0700, AthlonRob wrote:

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> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:29:29 -0400, joseph philip
> <joseph@nntp.will.suffice> wrote:
>> With the correct driver, X can use the Voodoo2's glide api to draw on
>> to the screen. I looked about for glide driver for X, but nothing came
>> up. linux.3dfx.com seems to have disappeared.
>
> That seems like it would be very hard on running a fast system... glide
> just isn't going to be as easy on the CPU cycles as a plain old 2d video
> card would be.
>
> linux.3dfx.com is likely down as 3dfx no longer exists. nVidia bought
> them out quite some time ago.
>
>> I did get this card working once, under readhat 6.0 for linux games.
>> That was so long ago I forgot how I got it to work.
>
> You'll get equal performance out of just about any AGP card these days.
> In fact, you'd probably have to look pretty hard for a low-end card that
> couldn't provide you with equal performance.. I'd drop $50 on a GeForce4
> MX 440 if I were you.


I *can* get hold of old nvidia cards that are workable. I'm not exactly
hurting from not running this thing.

But,
1. the voodoo2's ramdac is still operational. 2. It can generate a
1024x768@85-16bit screen 3. it's got 6MB per render chip

I hate wasting working things; especially when I bought them at about $300
each (I used to have 2 of them ).

Any clues?

joseph philip wrote:

>
> I hate wasting working things; especially when I bought them at about
> $300 each (I used to have 2 of them ).
>

uh, on either the Ftp.slackware site, one of the recent Slackware CDs or
one of the mirror sites that updates regularly, you might want to look
at /pub/slackware/slackware-current/extra/3dfx-glide or its equivalent
on the CD and see if the Voodoo2 directory has a tgz you can install
and get working. Good grief, this isn't hard at all.

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:24:33 -0400, Art Clemons wrote:

> joseph philip wrote:
>
>
>> I hate wasting working things; especially when I bought them at about
>> $300 each (I used to have 2 of them ).
>>
>>
> uh, on either the Ftp.slackware site, one of the recent Slackware CDs or
> one of the mirror sites that updates regularly, you might want to look
> at /pub/slackware/slackware-current/extra/3dfx-glide or its equivalent
> on the CD and see if the Voodoo2 directory has a tgz you can install and
> get working. Good grief, this isn't hard at all.


My bad. I never expected to find it all nicely packaged and all on the
9.1cd.

Thanks for the pointer.

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:27:56 -0400, joseph philip wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:24:33 -0400, Art Clemons wrote:
>
>> joseph philip wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I hate wasting working things; especially when I bought them at about
>>> $300 each (I used to have 2 of them ).
<snip>
> My bad. I never expected to find it all nicely packaged and all on the
> 9.1cd.
>
> Thanks for the pointer.

You won't be able to run an X server off of the Voodoo2, I have one
sitting around as well, the glide renderer is for games only, as the
Voodoo2 hardware is only 3d, no 2d.
Unless you can find a 3d X-server (I remember rumour of one floating
around).

Good luck!

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:13:48 -0600, Padraic wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:27:56 -0400, joseph philip wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:24:33 -0400, Art Clemons wrote:
>>> joseph philip wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hate wasting working things; especially when I bought them at about
>>>> $300 each (I used to have 2 of them ).
> <snip>
>> My bad. I never expected to find it all nicely packaged and all on the
>> 9.1cd.
>>
>> Thanks for the pointer.
>
> You won't be able to run an X server off of the Voodoo2, I have one
> sitting around as well, the glide renderer is for games only, as the
> Voodoo2 hardware is only 3d, no 2d.
> Unless you can find a 3d X-server (I remember rumour of one floating
> around).

What you /can/ do though is use the 3d chip(s) on the Voodoo cart to
accelerate games running in an X-window. Mesa can read the rendered
output of glide from: `/dev/kmem'.
In that case you wouldn't need the VGA "loop cable" connected either.
(Which might otherwise fuss 2d output a bit.)

/usr/doc/Linux-HOWTOs/3Dfx-HOWTO

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