Web-mail is crap !
All these protocols which have moved to http [for dummys]
cost me expensive dial-up-connect time.

Something that I read seemed to suggest that gmail can do
pop and smtp as well. Is this true ?

== Chris Glur.

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:19:51 -0600, problems wrote:

> Something that I read seemed to suggest that gmail can do
> pop and smtp as well. Is this true ?

You can use POP3, but you need to use a GUI MUA which can be configured
for a different port and use TLS.

That was a far as I got with them since I use fetchmail and mutt.

On 2008-03-08, problems@gmail <problems@gmail> wrote:
> Web-mail is crap !

Sure is.

> All these protocols which have moved to http [for dummys]
> cost me expensive dial-up-connect time.
>
> Something that I read seemed to suggest that gmail can do
> pop and smtp as well. Is this true ?

Yes. The directions are in the gmail help files.

Where else would you imagine they would be?

Looks like you don't need any help wasting your expensive
dial-up-connect time.

You could have found those directions in the time it took
to send this post.

Tom

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On 2008-03-08, Dave Uhring <daveuhring@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:19:51 -0600, problems wrote:
>
>> Something that I read seemed to suggest that gmail can do
>> pop and smtp as well. Is this true ?
>
> You can use POP3, but you need to use a GUI MUA which can be configured
> for a different port and use TLS.

No graphical MUA necessary. I use mutt and msmtp.

~/.msmtprc-gmail

account default
host smtp.gmail.com
port 587
protocol smtp
auth on
from someone@gmail.com
user someone@gmail.com
password [delete]
tls on
tls_starttls on
logfile ~/.msmtp-log

>
> That was a far as I got with them since I use fetchmail and mutt.
>

Me too.

~/.fetchmailrc-gmail

poll pop.gmail.com
proto pop3
port 995
user "someone@gmail.com"
pass ""
is tom here
mda "/usr/bin/formail -s /usr/bin/procmail ~/.procmailrc-gmail"
fetchall
flush
ssl


Don't recall there being anything special about using mutt here.

Tom

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On 2008-03-08, problems@gmail <problems@gmail> wrote:
> Web-mail is crap !
> All these protocols which have moved to http [for dummys]
> cost me expensive dial-up-connect time.
>
> Something that I read seemed to suggest that gmail can do
> pop and smtp as well. Is this true ?

Yes. And IMAP as well.

Here's an idea!

Read through the help info at www.gmail.com.

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at TRYNEL FLOATATION SYSTEMS
visi.com installed within SIX AND A
HALF HOURS!!!

On 2008-03-08, Dave Uhring <daveuhring@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Something that I read seemed to suggest that gmail can do pop
>> and smtp as well. Is this true ?
>
> You can use POP3, but you need to use a GUI MUA which can be
> configured for a different port and use TLS.

Why do you need to use a GUI MUA?

> That was a far as I got with them since I use fetchmail and
> mutt.

I use mutt with gmail, but I use IMAP instead of POP.

--
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at desolation.... plastic
visi.com forks...

problems@gmail wrote:

> Web-mail is crap !
> All these protocols which have moved to http [for dummys]
> cost me expensive dial-up-connect time.
>
> Something that I read seemed to suggest that gmail can do
> pop and smtp as well. Is this true ?

Yes, the instructions to set it up are given under 'Settings'.
--
Two Ravens
"Tom Newton, surely the William Topaz McGonagall of
alt.os.linux.slackware, and now, seemingly, comp.os.linux.setup and
comp.os.linux.misc.as well!"

Tom Newton wrote:

> Yes. The directions are in the gmail help files.
>
> Where else would you imagine they would be?
>
> Looks like you don't need any help wasting your expensive
> dial-up-connect time.
>
> You could have found those directions in the time it took
> to send this post.

Tom Newton, the man who didn't understand the 'menuconfig' question and
went down his favourite cul-de-sac, vide:
> What's "menuconfig"? I know how to create bash menus, and it's
> quite simple. You don't need any config program to help you.
>
> Let me guess: This is another one of the ways that KDE or Gnome
> make simple things seem to be complicated?

Tells someone else to RTFM, oh the irony!

Thats not a very nice way to behave to someone who may be a "newbie" now
is it Tom?
--
Two Ravens
"Tom Newton, surely the William Topaz McGonagall of
alt.os.linux.slackware, and now, seemingly, comp.os.linux.setup and
comp.os.linux.misc.as well!"

I see that the dimwit troll, Dan C/Sam (ad infinitum) is following
me around again, farting on the Usenet for someone else to smell.

Nothing he ever posts is read by me, nor any responses to it.

What he posts never has any effect on me at all other than
eliciting an explanatory post like this every once in a while.

But he just isn't bright enough to comprehend these simple facts.

And I guess he just doesn't know how to do anything else but pretend
that he is a dangerous virtual terrorist striking fear into the
hearts of his victims.

<snicker>

Can you say "loser", boys and girls?

Note that he has posted thousands of such articles, under scores
of aliases. To and supposedly about me.

I don't have any control over his behavior.

If I did, I would make him take his medications.

Tom


On 2008-03-08, Tom Newton <tom@server.invalid> wrote:
> On 2008-03-08, Dave Uhring <daveuhring@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:19:51 -0600, problems wrote:
>>
>>> Something that I read seemed to suggest that gmail can do
>>> pop and smtp as well. Is this true ?
>>
>> You can use POP3, but you need to use a GUI MUA which can be configured
>> for a different port and use TLS.
>
> No graphical MUA necessary. I use mutt and msmtp.
>
> ~/.msmtprc-gmail
>
> account default
> host smtp.gmail.com
> port 587
> protocol smtp
> auth on
> from someone@gmail.com
> user someone@gmail.com
> password [delete]
> tls on
> tls_starttls on
> logfile ~/.msmtp-log
>
>>
>> That was a far as I got with them since I use fetchmail and mutt.
>>
>
> Me too.
>
> ~/.fetchmailrc-gmail
>
> poll pop.gmail.com
> proto pop3
> port 995
> user "someone@gmail.com"
> pass ""
> is tom here
> mda "/usr/bin/formail -s /usr/bin/procmail ~/.procmailrc-gmail"
> fetchall
> flush
> ssl
>
>
> Don't recall there being anything special about using mutt here.
>
> Tom
>


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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:08:28 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:

> On 2008-03-08, Dave Uhring <daveuhring@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> You can use POP3, but you need to use a GUI MUA which can be
>> configured for a different port and use TLS.
>
> Why do you need to use a GUI MUA?

Too hard to configure mutt for all that other crap :-)