I just tried to access http://knoppix.com and http://knopper.net
and saw the following notice:

| Closed because of "Software-Patents"
| In the next few days, the European Parliament will decide about the
| legalisation and adoption of so-called "software patents" in Europe,
| which are already used by large companies in other countries to put
| competitors out of business. This can lead to the termination of many
| software projects such as KNOPPIX, at least within Europe, because the
| holders of the over 30,000 already granted "software patents"
| (currently without a legal foundation) can claim exclusive rights and
| collect license fees for trivial things like "progress bars",
| "mouseclicks on online order forms", "scrolling within a window" and
| similar. That way, software developers will have to pay the
| "software-patentholders" for using these features, even in their own,
| completely self-developed applications, which can completely stall the
| development of innovative software for small and medium companies.
| Apart from this, the expense for patent inquiries and legal assistence
| is high, for even trying to find out if the self-developed software is
| possibly violating "software-patents", if you want to continue to
| market your software. Contrary to real patents, "software-patents"
| are, in the current draft, monopolization of business ideas and
| methods, even without any tangible technical implementation.
|
| More about the current major problem at
| http://swpat.ffii.org/index.en.html

Question: Now that Knoppix is shut down, should there be a
Slackware-based single CD that duplicates the functionality
of Knoppix? The #2 disc in the v9.1 set would be a good
start.


--
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from the 'Back to the Future' movies? Do you have an "impossible"
engineering project that only someone like Doc Brown can solve?
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Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:

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> I just tried to access http://knoppix.com and http://knopper.net
> and saw the following notice:

[snip]

> Question: Now that Knoppix is shut down, should there be a
> Slackware-based single CD that duplicates the functionality
> of Knoppix? The #2 disc in the v9.1 set would be a good
> start.

Calm down, Knoppix isn't dead

Its just a protest showing what could happen if the EU went mad on the
software patent issue like the US has. If you check the text there is a
link to the site proper.

As for a Sloppix or whatever a Slackware Knoppix clone would be called, I
don't think it really matches the Slackware philosophy (KISS+Sysadmin vs
Autodetect), though that could (and probably will) be argued.

Blumf

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Guy Macon wrote:

> Question: Now that Knoppix is shut down, should there be a
> Slackware-based single CD that duplicates the functionality
> of Knoppix? The #2 disc in the v9.1 set would be a good
> start.
>
>
http://www.slackware-live.org/

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:28:58 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:
>
> I just tried to access http://knoppix.com and http://knopper.net
> and saw the following notice:
>
> | Closed because of "Software-Patents"

[Snip]

> | More about the current major problem at
> | http://swpat.ffii.org/index.en.html
>
> Question: Now that Knoppix is shut down,

They have _not_ shut it down, it's just a protest `index.html' page:
<http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-old-en.html>

You might want to support there efforts (against software pattends in EU):
http://petition.eurolinux.org/index_html?LANG=en

And you can read here about why you would want to do that:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/stallman-patents.html

[...]

--
-Menno.

Hallo Guy Macon

> Question: Now that Knoppix is shut down, should there be a
> Slackware-based single CD that duplicates the functionality
> of Knoppix? The #2 disc in the v9.1 set would be a good
> start.

It's not closed. Just klick on the 'Knoppix' links and you will be at the
normal pages.

Juergen

Blumf <blumf@hot.mail.com> says...

>If you check the text there is a
>link to the site proper.

If you check the "site proper" linked to, you will discover that
it's only a copy of the index page - none of the subpages work.

I personally was very fond of the english language subpage...





--
Guy Macon, Electronics Engineer & Project Manager. Remember Doc Brown
from the 'Back to the Future' movies? Do you have an "impossible"
engineering project that only someone like Doc Brown can solve?
Check out my resume at http://www.guymacon.com/resume.html/

Menno Duursma <menno@desktop.lan> says...

>They have _not_ shut it down, it's just a protest `index.html' page:
><http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-old-en.html>

Thanks! I was fooled by the fact that when I clicked on the first
"KNOPPIX" link and then the "This page is now also available in
english" link I got bounced back to the protest page. The *second*
"KNOPPIX" link works fine.

I apologize for the error.

Guy Macon schrieb:

> | Closed because of "Software-Patents"

and if you point your mouse to the link named "KNOPPIX" you will be
redirected to the Knoppix Website.

Peter

Peter Maria Stirnberg <peter@stirnberg.net> says...
>
>Guy Macon schrieb:
>
>> | Closed because of "Software-Patents"
>
>and if you point your mouse to the link named "KNOPPIX" you will be
>redirected to the Knoppix Website.

In particular, the *second* link named "KNOPPIX." If you, as I did,
point your mouse to the *first* link named "KNOPPIX" you will be
redirected to a version of the Knoppix Website where the link to
the english version doesn't work. The second link named "KNOPPIX"
works fine.