I would like to use CUPS on an older machine with a very small HD and no X.
Does anyone out there know (off hand) which other packages need to be
installed to get CUPS to work properly?

I do know it needs the perl and cyrus-sasl packages, but I have no idea
which xorg packages it uses...and my machine has very limited HD space.

dmiller wrote:
> I would like to use CUPS on an older machine with a very small HD and no X.
> Does anyone out there know (off hand) which other packages need to be
> installed to get CUPS to work properly?
>
> I do know it needs the perl and cyrus-sasl packages, but I have no idea
> which xorg packages it uses...and my machine has very limited HD space.

what makes you think it needs X at all?

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Joost Kremers writes:

>
> what makes you think it needs X at all?
>

I had to install the xorg package to get it working on other machines.
Without the xorg package, CUPS would not work properly (or at all). That
was with Slackware 10 and 11. I was just assuming it was the same deal with
12.

The xorg packages are split up now, so I was just hoping someone knew which
package(s) I need.

dmiller wrote:

> Does anyone out there know (off hand) which other packages need to be
> installed to get CUPS to work properly?

Try the following shell script (appended below my signature), which I
just whipped up, on a different system where you do have cups installed
and running, to see what other packages it seems to depend on.

Run on a Slackware-12.0 system here, it produces the following output:

: tecra[syl] ~; src/slackware/listdeps.sh cups
aaa_elflibs-12.0.0-i486-3
acl-2.2.39_1-i486-2
attr-2.4.32_1-i486-2
cups-1.2.11-i486-2_slack12.0
dbus-1.0.2-i486-3
openssl-0.9.8e-i486-3
openssl-solibs-0.9.8e-i486-3
zlib-1.2.3-i486-2

I hope that helps ... (I welcome improvements to the script, of course,
but I whipped that up quickly in preparation to followup to dmiller's
post)

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Sylvain Robitaille syl@alcor.concordia.ca

Systems and Network analyst Concordia University
Instructional & Information Technology Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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#!/bin/sh

# listdeps.sh: list dependacies of an installed package on Slackware
# Linux

# 2007/12/03 Sylvain Robitaille.

if [ ! -r /etc/slackware-version ]; then
echo "This program should run on a recent Slackware Linux system"
exit 1
fi

if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then
echo "usage: `basename $0` packagename [...]"
exit 1
fi

# Create unique tempfiles: NOTE this method *could* lose a race,
# but is good enough for most non-root use ...
tmpfile1=/tmp/`basename $0`.`date +%Y%m%d.%H%M%S`.$$
while [ -e $tmpfile1 ]; do
sleep 1
tmpfile1=/tmp/`basename $0`.`date +%Y%m%d.%H%M%S`.$$
done
touch $tmpfile1
chmod 700 $tmpfile1

tmpfile2=/tmp/`basename $0`.`date +%Y%m%d.%H%M%S`.$$
while [ -e $tmpfile2 ]; do
sleep 1
tmpfile2=/tmp/`basename $0`.`date +%Y%m%d.%H%M%S`.$$
done
touch $tmpfile2
chmod 700 $tmpfile2

# List dependancies of all requested packages:
while [ $1 ]; do
[ -f /var/adm/packages/$1-[0-9].* ] && \
ldd `grep -h bin/ /var/adm/packages/$1-[0-9].* |\
grep -v '/$' |\
sed 's%^%/%'` 2>/dev/null |\
grep -v ^/ |\
awk '{print $3}' |\
grep ^/ |\
sed 's%^/%%' |\
sort -u >> $tmpfile1
shift
done

for l in `cat $tmpfile1`; do
grep -rl $l /var/adm/packages |\
sed 's%^/var/adm/packages/%%' >> $tmpfile2
done

sort -u $tmpfile2
rm $tmpfile1 $tmpfile2

syl@alcor.concordia.ca wrote:
> dmiller wrote:
>
>> Does anyone out there know (off hand) which other packages need to be
>> installed to get CUPS to work properly?
>
> Try the following shell script (appended below my signature), which I
> just whipped up, on a different system where you do have cups installed
> and running, to see what other packages it seems to depend on.
>
> Run on a Slackware-12.0 system here, it produces the following output:
>
> : tecra[syl] ~; src/slackware/listdeps.sh cups
> aaa_elflibs-12.0.0-i486-3
> acl-2.2.39_1-i486-2
> attr-2.4.32_1-i486-2
> cups-1.2.11-i486-2_slack12.0
> dbus-1.0.2-i486-3
> openssl-0.9.8e-i486-3
> openssl-solibs-0.9.8e-i486-3
> zlib-1.2.3-i486-2

But I know cups needs LDAP (openldap-client) on my Slackware 12.0 system.
When I run your neat script on my Slackware 12 system, it does report
'openldap-client', and it does not report 'acl'. Cups (cups-1.2.11-i486-2)
would not run on my system until I installed openldap-client, yet I don't
have the 'acl' package installed, and it works. Confused...

Le Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:17:42 -0500, dmiller a écritÂ*:

> I would like to use CUPS on an older machine with a very small HD and no
> X. Does anyone out there know (off hand) which other packages need to be
> installed to get CUPS to work properly?
>
> I do know it needs the perl and cyrus-sasl packages, but I have no idea
> which xorg packages it uses...and my machine has very limited HD space.

I had this very same problem on a headless ( = no X11) server that I
wanted to use as printer and scanner server. I solved the problem by
installing fontconfig and every libX***** from X. I sometimes wonder how
I could fine-tune that, but this is one of the many problems whose
solution will have to wait for after when I'm dead D

cheers,

Niki

ljb wrote:

> But I know cups needs LDAP (openldap-client) on my Slackware 12.0
> system.

That would surprise me, as I don't have the LDAP client installed on MY
system ...

> When I run your neat script on my Slackware 12 system, it does report
> 'openldap-client', and it does not report 'acl'. ...

Can you quote the exact output of the script? It's entirely possible
that it is finding the components it needs (notice that there is no
check in my script for an un-met dependancy) without the acl package.

> Cups (cups-1.2.11-i486-2) would not run on my system until I installed
> openldap-client, yet I don't have the 'acl' package installed, and it
> works. Confused...

Note that my script runs "ldd" against all files in a directory ending
in "bin/" in the requested package(s), then tries to find which
package(s) contain the libraries listed in that output. I'm not near
either of my 12.0 systems now, or else I'd check to see exactly what it
is finding in the acl package that is listed in the ldd output, but I
wouldn't be surprised if it was only a (perhaps unused) single command
in the cups package that used something out of the acl package.

My script wasn't intended to be a "dependancy tracker"; It was simply
meant to be a quick way to find which other (installed) packages a given
(installed) package was likely to depend on, in response to the original
post in this thread. If you don't have the acl package installed,
that explains why my script isn't listing it on your system.

--
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Sylvain Robitaille syl@alcor.concordia.ca

Systems and Network analyst Concordia University
Instructional & Information Technology Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Niki Kovacs wrote:

> ... I solved the problem by installing fontconfig and every libX*****
> from X. ...

Hrmmm ... right; there are various binaries under /usr/lib/cups/ that
require additional packages not listed by the script I whipped up
earlier ... I may removed the check for "bin/" and just let ldd run on
every file, and ignore its "not a dynamic executable" output ...

--
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Sylvain Robitaille syl@alcor.concordia.ca

Systems and Network analyst Concordia University
Instructional & Information Technology Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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dmiller wrote:
> Joost Kremers writes:
>>
>> what makes you think it needs X at all?
>
> I had to install the xorg package to get it working on other machines.
> Without the xorg package, CUPS would not work properly (or at all). That
> was with Slackware 10 and 11. I was just assuming it was the same deal with
> 12.

it's hard to imagine a print server needing X at all... perhaps it's just
the fonts that cups needs, that wouldn't be entirely unimaginable. ;-)

it might be worth your while to try and figure out what goes wrong with
cups when X is not installed.


--
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Selbst in die Unterwelt dringt durch Spalten Licht
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Niki Kovacs writes:

> I had this very same problem on a headless ( = no X11) server that I
> wanted to use as printer and scanner server. I solved the problem by
> installing fontconfig and every libX***** from X. I sometimes wonder how
> I could fine-tune that, but this is one of the many problems whose
> solution will have to wait for after when I'm dead D

It works with your suggestion. Maybe I'll remove one by one until it breaks
and post back.

Thanks.