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Old 02-18-2008, 11:42 AM
Dipl.-Math. Markus Sagebiel
 
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Default [Current] KDE 3.1.4 issues, Fonts & Anti Aliasing

Hi,
i have installed and deinstalled in various ways kde 3.1.3 3.1.4 xfree new
packages with freetype and fontconfig.
Now kde 3.1.4 crashes often konq and does not recognize gkrellm in save
session after logout.
The fonts in konq are somewhat not AA or it uses ugly fonts from
website(www.spiegel.de now looks good again with 3.1.3...)
I think 3.1.4 needs a recompile.
Dont know what causes this ugly non anti aliasing fonts.
That unstable konq window is not repairable?!?

Kind Regards Markus
p.s. all new packages except kde 3.1.3 and qt 3.1.2 and the font issue is
acceptable.
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:42 AM
Dipl.-Math. Markus Sagebiel
 
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Default Re: [Current] KDE 3.1.4 issues, Fonts & Anti Aliasing

Dipl.-Math. Markus Sagebiel wrote:

> The fonts in konq are somewhat not AA or it uses ugly fonts from
> website(www.spiegel.de now looks good again with 3.1.3...)

its that upgrade from
x/xfree86-4.3.0-i486-3.tgz
to
x/xfree86-4.3.0-i486-4.tgz
which changed more than stated in ChangeLog.

> I think 3.1.4 needs a recompile.

no
> Dont know what causes this ugly non anti aliasing fonts.

the cause must be found in this new xfree package.
Markus


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Old 02-18-2008, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: [Current] KDE 3.1.4 issues, Fonts & Anti Aliasing

Dipl.-Math. Markus Sagebiel wrote:

> Dipl.-Math. Markus Sagebiel wrote:
>
>> The fonts in konq are somewhat not AA or it uses ugly fonts from
>> website(www.spiegel.de now looks good again with 3.1.3...)

> its that upgrade from
> x/xfree86-4.3.0-i486-3.tgz
> to
> x/xfree86-4.3.0-i486-4.tgz
> which changed more than stated in ChangeLog.
>
>> I think 3.1.4 needs a recompile.

> no
>> Dont know what causes this ugly non anti aliasing fonts.

> the cause must be found in this new xfree package.
> Markus
>
>


nope the problem is in ~/.kde somewhere

remove the .kde directory from your home directory and reconfigure kde and
all will be fine again

note you will lose all settings/bookmarks/mail and any kde program info
config details with this though you may be able to copy some across by hand

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Old 02-18-2008, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: [Current] KDE 3.1.4 issues, Fonts & Anti Aliasing

Wild Wizard wrote:

> nope the problem is in ~/.kde somewhere


In ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals

Are the global KDE fonts.

On this system I had to change them from "helvicta" to "bitstream vera sans"
because all of a sudden "helvicta" is no longer AA.

This can easily be done through the KDE control centre

Richard
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: [Current] KDE 3.1.4 issues, Fonts & Anti Aliasing

There must be two problems with the same symptoms, then, because I
replaced xfree86 as Markus suggested and the fonts worked again. I'm not
running KDE at all.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 05:40:02 +0000, Wild Wizard wrote:

> nope the problem is in ~/.kde somewhere


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Old 02-18-2008, 11:44 AM
Dipl.-Math. Markus Sagebiel
 
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Vigil wrote:

> There must be two problems with the same symptoms, then, because I
> replaced xfree86 as Markus suggested and the fonts worked again. I'm not
> running KDE at all.

Hi Vigil,
after that, the next morning booting time. With those old xfree packages and
kde 3.1.3 the fatter bold vera fonts are again in place.
I searched for freetype fontconfig and so on. nothing.
On mailinglist archives:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?w=2&r=1&s=font+kde&q=t
there are post discribing similar probs...
Only if konq 3.1.4 remains unstable i switch to 3.1.3 again after trying it
yesterday and now
Markus
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: [Current] KDE 3.1.4 issues, Fonts & Anti Aliasing

In <1998582.iy5VKKigRg@bail.ddts.net>, Dipl.-Math. Markus Sagebiel wrote:

> Dipl.-Math. Markus Sagebiel wrote:
>
>> The fonts in konq are somewhat not AA or it uses ugly fonts from
>> website(www.spiegel.de now looks good again with 3.1.3...)

> its that upgrade from
> x/xfree86-4.3.0-i486-3.tgz
> to
> x/xfree86-4.3.0-i486-4.tgz
> which changed more than stated in ChangeLog.


I had some similar problems with fonts after this upgrade. Actually I
didn't upgrade the xfree86 packages, but I did install the new elflibs
package, which includes among other things freetype (which is also in the
xfree86 packages). Replacing the new upgraded freetype libraries with the
older version fixed the font problems, even in KDE 3.1.4.

I think the reason for this is that in order to get the best quality
rendering from freetype (which xft/fontconfig uses) you have to set some
compile-time options in the freetype source to enable proper hinting
support. The freetype project is not allowed to distribute packages with
this enabled because of some legal issues, and if you don't have it set
you either have to disable hinting or use freetype's "auto-hinting",
neither of which looks as good as proper hinting support. Most
distributions, though, including slackware in the past, ship binaries with
hinting enabled. It looks like in the latest upgrade to freetype in the
new xfree86 packages this option wasn't enabled.

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Old 02-18-2008, 11:46 AM
Dipl.-Math. Markus Sagebiel
 
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lobotomy wrote:


> xfree86 packages). Replacing the new upgraded freetype libraries with the
> older version fixed the font problems, even in KDE 3.1.4.

thank you i only needed to run that xfree script in /var/log/scripts
again and voila.
Now i need only to fid older elflibs packages and/or compiling it for
myself.
in kdm the font disappaered but who cares
Markus
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:46 AM
James Stafford
 
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lobotomy wrote:
>
>
> I think the reason for this is that in order to get the best quality
> rendering from freetype (which xft/fontconfig uses) you have to set some
> compile-time options in the freetype source to enable proper hinting
> support. The freetype project is not allowed to distribute packages with
> this enabled because of some legal issues, and if you don't have it set
> you either have to disable hinting or use freetype's "auto-hinting",
> neither of which looks as good as proper hinting support. Most
> distributions, though, including slackware in the past, ship binaries with
> hinting enabled. It looks like in the latest upgrade to freetype in the
> new xfree86 packages this option wasn't enabled.
>

I just downloaded, compiled, and installed freetype-2.1.5 and it had
these options already set. So I don't know if it is necessary to change
anything any more. It doesn't hurt to check, though.
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