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My computer has Vector 5.0 SOHO installed as the OS which I understand
is a lot like Slack. I have 3 NIC's show up during the installation
process of XP or Mandrake. Two of this Network adapters I can explain as
one is a Realtek and the other is a D-Link which I use to connect to the
Internet. The 3rd is almost like a phantom NIC or something because you
can physically look on the back of my box and there is only the 2 NIC
cards, there is no onboard card unless the plate on the back is covering
it or something. Anyway, I really prefer Vector Linux over Mandriva, but
when I install Vec for some reason the D-Link isn't showing as
installed. It took a while to figure this out because in VL, using VASM,
the cards just show as eth0 and eth1, but don't tell me what they
actually are. I went for nearly 2 days trying to figure this out until
finally I moved the patch cord up to the Realtek and the Internet
starting working. When I installed Mandrake Linux it picked up on all 3
mentioned above with no problem and actually listed the make and model
of the NIC's which was very helpful to me to determine what was
installed. I don't want to pick on Mandrake because I think any Linux
distro is great because it's Linux, but I like VL for it's speed and
lack of bloat. Also, I seem to have a lot of success installing the tgz
packages from sites like LinuxPackages.net. They always seem to work
good for me.

I'll admit that maybe where I am new to VL I am not going about this the
right way. Is there a way to tell, by make and model, what NIC's are
being seen under VL? How would I go about trying to get the OS to see
the D-Link which right now it obviously doesn't?

Thanks!

Paul

Paul Ingram wrote:
> My computer has Vector 5.0 SOHO installed as the OS which I understand
> is a lot like Slack. I have 3 NIC's show up during the installation
> process of XP or Mandrake. Two of this Network adapters I can explain as
> one is a Realtek and the other is a D-Link which I use to connect to the
> Internet. The 3rd is almost like a phantom NIC or something because you
> can physically look on the back of my box and there is only the 2 NIC
> cards, there is no onboard card unless the plate on the back is covering
> it or something. Anyway, I really prefer Vector Linux over Mandriva, but
> when I install Vec for some reason the D-Link isn't showing as
> installed. It took a while to figure this out because in VL, using VASM,
> the cards just show as eth0 and eth1, but don't tell me what they
> actually are. I went for nearly 2 days trying to figure this out until
> finally I moved the patch cord up to the Realtek and the Internet
> starting working. When I installed Mandrake Linux it picked up on all 3
> mentioned above with no problem and actually listed the make and model
> of the NIC's which was very helpful to me to determine what was
> installed. I don't want to pick on Mandrake because I think any Linux
> distro is great because it's Linux, but I like VL for it's speed and
> lack of bloat. Also, I seem to have a lot of success installing the tgz
> packages from sites like LinuxPackages.net. They always seem to work
> good for me.
>
> I'll admit that maybe where I am new to VL I am not going about this the
> right way. Is there a way to tell, by make and model, what NIC's are
> being seen under VL? How would I go about trying to get the OS to see
> the D-Link which right now it obviously doesn't?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Paul

I was hoping to get some input on this. Any takers?

Paul Ingram <pingramnet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a way to tell, by make and model, what NIC's are
> being seen under VL?

Try the commands "cat /proc/pci" and "dmesg" to see some information about
your hardware. Use "cat /proc/modules" to see which modules (drivers) are
loaded.

> How would I go about trying to get the OS to see
> the D-Link which right now it obviously doesn't?

If your "OS doesn't see" a NIC you probably mean that there is no module
loaded for it. This could be because you don't have hotplug running which
whold load any modules for found hardware automagically. It could also be
that you don't want to use hotplug but are supposed to edit a file like
/etc/modules.conf to manually select which hardware you want your OS to
support. Or it could be that you don't want to use modules at all and
forgot to compile support for that NIC in your kernel. Another possible
reason is that you don't have the driver/module which is needed installed.

regards Henrik
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:43:12 +0000, Paul Ingram wrote:

> My computer has Vector 5.0 SOHO installed as the OS which I understand
> is a lot like Slack. I have 3 NIC's show up during the installation
> process of XP or Mandrake.

Why do you have 3 NIC's in it?

> one is a Realtek and the other is a D-Link which I use to connect to the
> Internet. The 3rd is almost like a phantom NIC or something because you
> can physically look on the back of my box and there is only the 2 NIC
> cards, there is no onboard card unless the plate on the back is covering
> it or something.

We can't see it from here. You'll have to open the box and find out. It
wouldn't hurt to look through the BIOS settings too, to see if there is an
onboard NIC or not.

> when I install Vec for some reason the D-Link isn't showing as
> installed. It took a while to figure this out because in VL, using VASM,
> the cards just show as eth0 and eth1, but don't tell me what they
> actually are.

The commands "lspci" and/or "lsmod" may shed some light on that. Sounds
to me like you don't have the module (driver) loaded for the D-Link.
Another command which may help is: dmesg | grep -i eth

> I installed Mandrake Linux it picked up on all 3 mentioned above with no
> problem and actually listed the make and model of the NIC's which was
> very helpful to me to determine what was installed.

So what was the make/model of the mysterious 3rd NIC?

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Paul Ingram wrote:

> I was hoping to get some input on this. Any takers?

Try here: http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum/
See also: http://wombat.san-francisco.ca.us/fa.../cache/46.html

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"...hit the squirrel..."

Dan C wrote:

> Why do you have 3 NIC's in it?

For fear of sounding "anal" here I try my best anyway. It seems to me
that I sould only be showing 2 cards, the Realtek and the D-Link. I am
running Windows right now because I am working, but the device manager
in Windows shows the same thing, here it is:

1. D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev. C)
2. Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
3. Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI Fast Ehternet NIC # 2

Now unless I am reading this wrong is this not showing me 3 NIC's???
However on the back I see to. About the why? Well, the Realtek was
giving me problems so I bought the D-Link and was too lazy to take it
out. Just being honest.

> We can't see it from here.

Typo, I meant generally to say "you can't see it"

> The commands "lspci" and/or "lsmod" may shed some light on that. Sounds
> to me like you don't have the module (driver) loaded for the D-Link.
> Another command which may help is: dmesg | grep -i eth

I'll try that

> So what was the make/model of the mysterious 3rd NIC?

See above list.

In alt.os.linux.slackware, Paul Ingram dared to utter,
> For fear of sounding "anal" here I try my best anyway. It seems to me
> that I sould only be showing 2 cards, the Realtek and the D-Link. I am
> running Windows right now because I am working, but the device manager
> in Windows shows the same thing, here it is:
>
> 1. D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev. C)
> 2. Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
> 3. Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI Fast Ehternet NIC # 2

I would google to see why Windows is showing two Realtek's. Very few
motherboards come with two onboard NICs, and when they do, they are
very rarely Realtek! I imagine it's something freaky in the windows
driver, but I could be wrong.

--
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Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:36:20 +0000, Paul Ingram wrote:

> For fear of sounding "anal" here I try my best anyway. It seems to me
> that I sould only be showing 2 cards, the Realtek and the D-Link. I am
> running Windows right now because I am working, but the device manager
> in Windows shows the same thing, here it is:
>
> 1. D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev. C)
> 2. Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
> 3. Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI Fast Ehternet NIC # 2

I suspect that #3 in that list is simply a second instance of the Realtek
NIC. Sometimes Windoze does that, I think. Not sure why, but maybe some
weird VPN stuff. I'd bet you could delete that one in Device Manager, and
forget about it.

> Now unless I am reading this wrong is this not showing me 3 NIC's???
> However on the back I see to. About the why? Well, the Realtek was
> giving me problems so I bought the D-Link and was too lazy to take it
> out. Just being honest.

That's almost too amazing to believe. Dude, don't be lazy. Open up the
box and take one of them out. Really. Right now.

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Linux Registered User #327951

Dan C wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:36:20 +0000, Paul Ingram wrote:
>
>
>>For fear of sounding "anal" here I try my best anyway. It seems to me
>>that I sould only be showing 2 cards, the Realtek and the D-Link. I am
>>running Windows right now because I am working, but the device manager
>>in Windows shows the same thing, here it is:
>>
>>1. D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev. C)
>>2. Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
>>3. Realtek RTL8139/810X Family PCI Fast Ehternet NIC # 2
>
>
> I suspect that #3 in that list is simply a second instance of the Realtek
> NIC. Sometimes Windoze does that, I think. Not sure why, but maybe some
> weird VPN stuff. I'd bet you could delete that one in Device Manager, and
> forget about it.
>
>
>>Now unless I am reading this wrong is this not showing me 3 NIC's???
>>However on the back I see to. About the why? Well, the Realtek was
>>giving me problems so I bought the D-Link and was too lazy to take it
>>out. Just being honest.
>
>
> That's almost too amazing to believe. Dude, don't be lazy. Open up the
> box and take one of them out. Really. Right now.
>

What I don't understand though is why Vector was showing an eth0 and
eth1. I assumed that it was the two known NICS, but neither one worked
for the D-Link. However, when I put the patch cable in the Realtek it
worked.

Dan C wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:36:20 +0000, Paul Ingram wrote:

> That's almost too amazing to believe. Dude, don't be lazy. Open up the
> box and take one of them out. Really. Right now.
>


OK, OK I'll have to wait till Saturday. I've been working late and I'm
just too tired to look at it now.

I'm going to bed!