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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Adams-Blake Co.
 
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Default File system choice on install? Reiser?

Did I screw up? On the install the default was something called Rieser. I
chose it. Isn't ext3 the latest and greatest? I did a lot of research
before this install but the file system type went right by me.

No big deal. I'll probably re-install again anyway. I partitiioned with only
a 1 GB swap and a 25 GB root to make it easy on myself (machine has 1GB of
RAM.) Next time I will partiton differently now that I see how easy it is.
Is this Rieser thing something I want to stay with?

Al

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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 02:32:37 GMT, Adams-Blake Co. <atakeoutcanton@adams-blaketakeout.com> wrote:
> Is this Rieser thing something I want to stay with?


I would. Ext3 really isn't the 'latest and greatest' ... it's just
another choice.

As far as I have heard, Rieser is a darned good filesystem especially
for laptops or desktop machines.

I've been using it for several months on my laptop without any issues.
:-)

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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Mark Hill
 
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On 2003-10-12,
Adams-Blake Co. <atakeoutcanton@adams-blaketakeout.com> wrote:
> Did I screw up? On the install the default was something called Rieser. I
> chose it. Isn't ext3 the latest and greatest? I did a lot of research
> before this install but the file system type went right by me.


reiserfs and ext3 are both journalling filesystems, which means that if
your system crashes, you're a lot less likely to lose data. Neither
filesystem is really better than the other (IMHO), but each filesystem
has its plusses and minuses. To give one advantage of each, ext3 has
more mature tools, while resierfs is better with lots of small files.

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Old 02-18-2008, 05:21 PM
Jurgen Philippaerts
 
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 08:29:03PM PDT, AthlonRob wrote
in article <vphamb.jtn.ln@dsl-gervais-88.web-ster.com>:

> > Is this Rieser thing something I want to stay with?


> I would. Ext3 really isn't the 'latest and greatest' ... it's just
> another choice.


> I've been using it for several months on my laptop without any issues.


i never tried reiser myself.
but i've been using ext3 for quite a long time now, never failed me.
and... if things go wrong, it's backwards compatible with ext2
(that's basically the main reason i'm using it, my paranois setting

then again... before that, i was using ext2 for several years without
any problems either. allthough, if power went away, you could be in
for a nasty fsck...


Jurgen.

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Old 02-18-2008, 05:21 PM
Nurullah Akkaya
 
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"Adams-Blake Co." <atakeoutcanton@adams-blaketakeout.com> wrote in message news:<933ib.7844$dn6.4409@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net>...
> Did I screw up? On the install the default was something called Rieser. I
> chose it. Isn't ext3 the latest and greatest? I did a lot of research
> before this install but the file system type went right by me.
>
> No big deal. I'll probably re-install again anyway. I partitiioned with only
> a 1 GB swap and a 25 GB root to make it easy on myself (machine has 1GB of
> RAM.) Next time I will partiton differently now that I see how easy it is.
> Is this Rieser thing something I want to stay with?
>
> Al


there is no greatest file system they all have diffrent puposes and
capabilities reiser is good for small file and xfs is good for big
files ext3 is in the middle of somewhere i am not a file system expert
but theses are the key differences about them reiser is faster than
ext3 but ext3 is easy to recover but after 2.4.19 kernel reiser is
stable
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Old 02-18-2008, 05:21 PM
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"Adams-Blake Co." <atakeoutcanton@adams-blaketakeout.com> wrote in message
news:933ib.7844$dn6.4409@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Did I screw up? On the install the default was something called Rieser. I
> chose it. Isn't ext3 the latest and greatest? I did a lot of research
> before this install but the file system type went right by me.
>
> No big deal. I'll probably re-install again anyway. I partitiioned with

only
> a 1 GB swap and a 25 GB root to make it easy on myself (machine has 1GB of
> RAM.) Next time I will partiton differently now that I see how easy it is.
> Is this Rieser thing something I want to stay with?
>
> Al
>

Hey Al,
I love reiser personally, been using it for the last couple releases. Its
faster with small files, but can bog down with larger files such as ISO's
and such, thats where ext3 is a smidge faster in my opinion. Both are
journalling as was mentioned which is a definite plus. ext3 is more mature,
but reiser has been becoming more and more stable and maturing nicely. You
can mix and match file systems on your machine and see w hich works for you
though


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Old 02-18-2008, 05:21 PM
Guy Macon
 
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Drew <drew@techiekb.com> says...

>I love reiser personally, been using it for the last couple releases. Its
>faster with small files, but can bog down with larger files such as ISO's
>and such, thats where ext3 is a smidge faster in my opinion. Both are
>journalling as was mentioned which is a definite plus. ext3 is more mature,
>but reiser has been becoming more and more stable and maturing nicely. You
>can mix and match file systems on your machine and see w hich works for you
>though


One thing to consider is that Slackware 9.1 defaults to reiser
when you inslall it, which means more people exercising it and
thus uncovering any bugs that might exist in it.






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Old 02-18-2008, 05:21 PM
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AthlonRob wrote:
>
> As far as I have heard, Rieser is a darned good filesystem especially
> for laptops or desktop machines.
>
> I've been using it for several months on my laptop without any issues.
> :-)

What has your experience been on the laptop with power management? Read
somewhere how any journalling file system would prevent powering down the
hard drive. True/False ?
For me it doesn't matter that much as battery no long responds to the drop
it (without computer) from a reasonablely excessive height to 'unmemorize'
empty level.
TKS
ppd


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Old 02-18-2008, 05:22 PM
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:03:31 -0400, PDock <old-trail-yarnsSPAM@blazenet.net> wrote:
> What has your experience been on the laptop with power management? Read


Things have been going pretty well with ACPI. I can throttle back the
CPU speed with it. I can't throttle with the regular cpufreq drivers,
though, because Dell does something that doesn't allow them to work.

Battery and AC monitoring work just fine.

Fan control all goes through the i8k utilities because it is a Dell
laptop.

> somewhere how any journalling file system would prevent powering down the
> hard drive. True/False ?


I don't mess around with powering down the hard drive for a few reasons:

1) If it powers down more frequently than it should, it will decrease
drive life. In a hot laptop, drive life is very much an issue.
2) I don't let it idle when it's powered on with a battery long
enough to let it power down the drive. :-)

> For me it doesn't matter that much as battery no long responds to the drop
> it (without computer) from a reasonablely excessive height to 'unmemorize'
> empty level.


I hadn't heard of that strategy to get rid of battery memory. There
used to be places all over you could take old batteries to have new life
breathed into them. They have a way of erasing the memory somehow.
Sometimes a charging/slow discharging cycle can bring batteries back if
they aren't too far gone.

FWIW, this laptop lasted, at max, two hours in Windows.

In Linux, I just ran it on Thursday for an hour and a half with the
screen fairly dimmed, then a full hour with the screen not dimmed, and
still had 20% of my battery left to play with when I got home. That was
without CPU throttling.

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