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Hi,

One of my favourite websites is Youtube, especially for live music videos
(old Sly Stone stuff, Rufus & Chaka Khan, Steely Dan, ...).

Unfortunately, nearly every time I'm on it, Firefox ends up crashing,
leaving behind three or four zombie processes.

What can a poor boy do?

Niki

Le Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:46:07 +0000, Niki Kovacs a écritÂ*:

> Hi,
>
> One of my favourite websites is Youtube, especially for live music
> videos (old Sly Stone stuff, Rufus & Chaka Khan, Steely Dan, ...).
>
> Unfortunately, nearly every time I'm on it, Firefox ends up crashing,
> leaving behind three or four zombie processes.
>
> What can a poor boy do?
>

Hmmmm. There's a series of manipulations on certains webpages that always
seem to bring Firefox down (example: hitting the back button on a search
results page on youtube.com). I just tried the same with Seamonkey, and
it doesn't crash. Add this to the fact that over the last months,
Thunderbird mysteriously "lost" some of my messages, I'm seriously
considering giving up the highly acclaimed wonder duo Firefox/Thunderbird
in favour of Seamonkey/Mozilla Mail or maybe Sylpheed Claws. I need
applications for a rock-solid production desktop, and behaviour like this
is no good.

I'm curious about your opinion. Please, no troll intended.

Niki

Niki Kovacs wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One of my favourite websites is Youtube, especially for live music videos
> (old Sly Stone stuff, Rufus & Chaka Khan, Steely Dan, ...).
>
> Unfortunately, nearly every time I'm on it, Firefox ends up crashing,
> leaving behind three or four zombie processes.
>
> What can a poor boy do?

For the 'noise' install _full_ Marantz set, for the 'video' get a ticket
to show. ( In some cases it should be for a 'seans', don't know the
quality of display(?!)

Have fun.

Stanislaw
>
> Niki

Le Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:23:18 +0000, Stanislaw Flatto a écritÂ*:
>
> For the 'noise' install _full_ Marantz set, for the 'video' get a ticket
> to show. ( In some cases it should be for a 'seans', don't know the
> quality of display(?!)
>
Yeah, but when I eat a banana with a spoon, the rhinoceros hiding behind
the waterfall will jump into the refrigerator. Don't you agree?

Niki

PS: I can write nonsense too. See?

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:10:24 +0000, Niki Kovacs scrawled firmly:

> Le Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:46:07 +0000, Niki Kovacs a écritÂ*:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> One of my favourite websites is Youtube, especially for live music
>> videos (old Sly Stone stuff, Rufus & Chaka Khan, Steely Dan, ...).
>>
>> Unfortunately, nearly every time I'm on it, Firefox ends up crashing,
>> leaving behind three or four zombie processes.
>>
>> What can a poor boy do?
>>
>>
> Hmmmm. There's a series of manipulations on certains webpages that
> always seem to bring Firefox down (example: hitting the back button on a
> search results page on youtube.com). I just tried the same with
> Seamonkey, and it doesn't crash. Add this to the fact that over the last
> months, Thunderbird mysteriously "lost" some of my messages, I'm
> seriously considering giving up the highly acclaimed wonder duo
> Firefox/Thunderbird in favour of Seamonkey/Mozilla Mail or maybe
> Sylpheed Claws. I need applications for a rock-solid production desktop,
> and behaviour like this is no good.
>
> I'm curious about your opinion. Please, no troll intended.
>
> Niki

Get a new copy of Firefox and extract it to a home directory - dont
install it just use it with ./firefox-bin or sh firefox make a pretty
link so you can put it in the taskbar or something... download the
plugins for Mplayer, java and flash and just stick the .so and .xpt files
you get from them in the plugins folder.

Ive never like thunderbird. I use Kmail for email and Pan for usenet.

Niki Kovacs wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One of my favourite websites is Youtube, especially for live music videos
> (old Sly Stone stuff, Rufus & Chaka Khan, Steely Dan, ...).
>
> Unfortunately, nearly every time I'm on it, Firefox ends up crashing,
> leaving behind three or four zombie processes.
>
> What can a poor boy do?

For the 'noise' install _full_ Marantz set, for the 'video' get a ticket
to show. ( In some cases it should be for a 'seans', don't know the
quality of display(?!)

Have fun.

Stanislaw
>
> Niki

Niki Kovacs <mickey@mouse.com> wrote:
>
> Thunderbird mysteriously "lost" some of my messages, I'm seriously
> considering giving up the highly acclaimed wonder duo Firefox/Thunderbird
> in favour of Seamonkey/Mozilla Mail or maybe Sylpheed Claws. I need
> applications for a rock-solid production desktop, and behaviour like this
> is no good.

I occasionally give Firfox and Thunderbird a go, but always end up back
with Mozilla/Seamonkey. The primary reason is I much prefer the old
Netscape style interface. Mozilla and Thunderbird look just similar
enough that I fall back into Netscape habbits, but the interface is
different enough to make those habbits not compatible (for instance, the
Save and Cancel buttons for downloads are reversed!). Overall, I've
been happier with Mozilla's stability. I believe it has been a good 5
or 6 years that Mozilla has been very stable. I use it at work all the
time with no issues (while Netscape and IE sometimes puke on me).

- Kurt

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:10:24 +0000, Niki Kovacs wrote:

> I'm curious about your opinion. Please, no troll intended.

Firefox has been a dog for me of late. It seems to crash with flash video
often and the mplayer plugin is also involved at times.

I have never been a huge fan of firefox though. I still use seamonkey at
work (on windows) and I think I may dump firefox all together and use
seamonkey only. Opera is really nice as well, but there is something that
keeps me from using it regularly - I like it but don't use it, go figure.

No wonder I got out of retail.

The only thing that sucks more than "customers" is "no customers"

Thunderbird runs like a slug - reminds me of new Pan.

I like Kmail - more so now that I figured how to use it with gmail.
Pan (old version) for News.

Steve

Niki Kovacs wrote:
> Le Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:23:18 +0000, Stanislaw Flatto a écrit :
>> For the 'noise' install _full_ Marantz set, for the 'video' get a ticket
>> to show. ( In some cases it should be for a 'seans', don't know the
>> quality of display(?!)
>>
> Yeah, but when I eat a banana with a spoon, the rhinoceros hiding behind
> the waterfall will jump into the refrigerator. Don't you agree?
>
> Niki
>
> PS: I can write nonsense too. See?
>
"Eureca!"

Niki Kovacs wrote:
> Le Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:23:18 +0000, Stanislaw Flatto a écrit :
>> For the 'noise' install _full_ Marantz set, for the 'video' get a ticket
>> to show. ( In some cases it should be for a 'seans', don't know the
>> quality of display(?!)
>>
> Yeah, but when I eat a banana with a spoon, the rhinoceros hiding behind
> the waterfall will jump into the refrigerator. Don't you agree?
>
> Niki
>
> PS: I can write nonsense too. See?
>
"Eureca!"