On Mon, 12 May 2008 21:43:27 +0000, greymaus wrote:

> On 2008-05-12, Mark Madsen <mark.s.madsen+news@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 May 2008 06:24:33 +0000, Joseph Rosevear wrote:
>>
>>> Sam I Am suggested (ref, "Slack 12.1 and USB disk") that my method for
>>> booting Slackware be included in the Revised Slackware Book. I don't
>>> know if that is a good idea. Nobody knows what my method is, and it
>>> isn't exactly mainstream. It is, rather, a little off the beaten
>>> path.
>>>
>>> Maybe if I put it out where people can try it, it might generate a
>>> little discussion? Then we can discover if it belongs in the
>>> Slackware Book. Or somewhere else.
>>
>> May I suggest that it go into either the Tips or Tutorials section on
>> htt://www.slackwiki.org ?
>
> Even better :
>
> http://www.slackwiki.org ?

Thnak oyu fro cerrocting my tpyo :-)

> PS, the CD system does not recognize my USB keyboard.

Did you try all the kernel choices?

Glyn Millington <wistanswick@linuxmail.org> wrote:

[snip]

> Another good place to look is Daniel D Kok's Slackware Linux Basics

> http://www.slackbasics.org/html-sing...re-basics.html

Glyn,

Thanks for the tip.

[snip]

> Glyn

-Joe

Realto Margarino wrote:

> Admittedly, we are quite bored this evening...anyway, here goes: why
> on earth would we be jealous over the Revised Slackware Book? *PV
> threw the man a bone by having it included on the website, but the
> book won't be "official", despite what anyone says, until a hard copy
> is included with every slackware DVD.

Whilst its not included with *every* DVD, (and lets face it cheapskates
download rather than buy, and even then they get it included in the
download), it is available with the DVD for 12, and presumably will be
available as a similar set with 12.1. Vide,
http://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/s...NvJ7X:mv_pc=38
--
Two Ravens
"...hit the squirrel..."

On 2008-05-13, Glyn Millington <wistanswick@linuxmail.org> wrote:

> Your friends want to know ........

You have to have a life to have friends. As we all know, trolls have neither.

nb

Realto Margarino wrote:

> PV threw the man a bone by having it included on the website, but the
> book won't be "official", despite what anyone says, until a hard copy
> is included with every slackware DVD.

Slackware Linux Essentials, Second Edition
Copyright Slackware Linux, Inc.
Published by Slackware Linux, Inc.
Distributed by Slackware Linux, Inc. in two formats with every copy of
Slackware Linux.

But, of course, you decide the meaning of "official." As you decide, and
conveniently change at will, the meaning of any term you might use. What a
dip you are.

> Yawn.

Indeed.

--
Old Man

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. -
John Kenneth Galbraith

Realto Margarino <rm@justlinux.ca> wrote:
>
> Despite what your God may say, it'll only be "official" when it is
> no longer a "recommendation." It will only be "official" when it is
> included, in hardcover, along with every retailed distribution.

But, it is included if you choose that package. What, are you a
Socialist - you want to force it on those of us who have already bought
it and don't need another one just because we are buying the newest
release of the software?

- Kurt

Old Man <bill@witch.lan.invalid> says:

>But, of course, you decide the meaning of "official." As you
>decide, and conveniently change at will, the meaning of any term
>you might use. What a dip you are.

If and when the so-called "Slackware Essentials" book, in hardcopy,
is included with every distribution, then it will be an "official"
part of the distribution. As it is now, included only as a file, it
is no more "official" than any of the other how-tos and FAQs that
are bundled with the system.

What's more, when people are looking for the answer to a question,
the first thing they do is check out the how-tos and FAQs. And then
they google.

Nobody, except newbies who do not know any better, wastes their time
with the so-called "Slackware Essentials." In fact, only newbies,
who don't know any better, are foolish enough to buy it in the first
place.

Now, please, go back to sleep.

cordially, as always,

rm

~kurt <actinouranium@earthlink.net> says:
>Realto Margarino <rm@justlinux.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Despite what your God may say, it'll only be "official" when it is
>> no longer a "recommendation." It will only be "official" when it is
>> included, in hardcover, along with every retailed distribution.

>But, it is included if you choose that package. What, are you a
>Socialist - you want to force it on those of us who have already bought
>it and don't need another one just because we are buying the newest
>release of the software?

Well, PV could always offer an update - minus the "Essentials" -
that will only install on top of a previously purchased version...

cordially, as always,

rm

Realto Margarino <rm@justlinux.ca> writes:

> Old Man <bill@witch.lan.invalid> says:
>
>>But, of course, you decide the meaning of "official." As you
>>decide, and conveniently change at will, the meaning of any term
>>you might use. What a dip you are.
>
> If and when the so-called "Slackware Essentials" book, in hardcopy,
> is included with every distribution, then it will be an "official"
> part of the distribution. As it is now, included only as a file, it
> is no more "official" than any of the other how-tos and FAQs that
> are bundled with the system.

Well, quoting from this page

http://www.slackware.com/book/

,----
| The official guide to Slackware Linux, the Slackware Linux Essentials,
| has been recently revised. If you want to be able to read it online, you
| may want to visit the slackbook website.
|
| You may also want to buy a printed copy, in that case please visit the
| Slackware Store!
`----

I don't see why "official" has to mean "distributed in hard copy with
the software". It comes with the software on the cd/dvd and is
sanctioned by slackware.com as "The" official guide. To ask for more
seems utterly unreasonable.

Of course what irks you, RM, is that after months, if not years, of
sneering at the effort made by many and led by Alan Hicks to update the
Slackbook, you find that it IS the official guide, and with Alan's name
on it what's more :-) All this derision is about your personal vendetta
against Alan Hicks, and has nothing to do with the quality of the
official guide.

Any newcomers to this newsgroup reading this?

A. Before you trust RM on this just study his posting history - searching
Google groups on "realto margarino" will reveal a sorry story spread
over 3,540 posts.

B. Slackware Linux Essentials is a fine place to start if you are new to
Slackware.

atb




Glyn
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GAFC http://slackbook.org/ The Official Source :-)
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JFGI http://jfgi.us/

Realto Margarino wrote:

> If and when the so-called "Slackware Essentials" book, in hardcopy,
> is included with every distribution, then it will be an "official"
> part of the distribution. As it is now, included only as a file, it
> is no more "official" than any of the other how-tos and FAQs that
> are bundled with the system.

Make a dumb-ass statement. When it is refuted, ignore that, and just repeat
the same dumb-ass statement. Throw in some irrelevant bullshit as if it
supports the dumb-ass statement. This is what passes for "debate" in the
Land of Margarine Boy, Doctor of Scatology.

--
Old Man

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. -
John Kenneth Galbraith