On Mon, 26 May 2008 15:27:45 +0200, Mark Madsen wrote:

> There is an argument that the default desktop on any distro is the one
> best adapted to work with that distro. If one believes this, one should
> use Gnome on Debian, KDE or Xfce on Slack, and twm on NetBSD :-)

.... or bash on ODE.

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>>>>> "kurt" == ~kurt <actinouranium@earthlink.net> writes:
>> When Slack dropped Gnome, I used the various third party
>> Gnomes for a while, and then switched to XFCE. Haven't
>> looked back since.

kurt> Still using Blackbox after all these years - change is
kurt> bad....

fvwm. Over the years, in odd moments, you build up all the
customizations and neat tricks you could want.

jk

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On Mon, 26 May 2008, stinger wrote:

>
> On Mon, 26 May 2008 15:27:45 +0200, Mark Madsen wrote:
>
>> There is an argument that the default desktop on any distro is the one
>> best adapted to work with that distro. If one believes this, one should
>> use Gnome on Debian, KDE or Xfce on Slack, and twm on NetBSD :-)
>
> ... or bash on ODE.

Oh no! please, dont go there, its been peacful without that twat

>
>

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Jim Kalb <jimkalb@gmail.com> writes:

F>>>>>> "kurt" == ~kurt <actinouranium@earthlink.net> writes:
> >> When Slack dropped Gnome, I used the various third party
> >> Gnomes for a while, and then switched to XFCE. Haven't
> >> looked back since.
>
> kurt> Still using Blackbox after all these years - change is
> kurt> bad....
>
> fvwm. Over the years, in odd moments, you build up all the
> customizations and neat tricks you could want.

Yes!! it is rock solid, even in the "unstable" version. And it is _really_
well documented, though the language of the config files is rather
interesting :-)


atb


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~kurt <actinouranium@earthlink.net> typed on 2008-05-26:
> Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Me too. When Slack dropped Gnome, I used the various third party Gnomes
>> for a while, and then switched to XFCE. Haven't looked back since.
>
> Still using Blackbox after all these years - change is bad....

Consider Openbox[0], it started as a fork of blackbox, but version 3
was rewritten from scratch. It's still under active development, faster
than most window managers, highly configurable and standards compliant.

Then again, if you're happy with blackbox.....

I don't actually remember why I originally switched from blackbox to
openbox, after being a happy user for years. There must have been a
good one though, as I'm usually pretty conservative once I like
something. Right now I couldn't live without the chrootable key chains.

I've been meaning to sent Pat an e-mail asking to include it
officially, but I've been meaning to do that for over a year now

[0] <URL:http://www.openbox.org/>[1]
[1] For a list of some of the features:
<URL:http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Features>

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Modules, and have never felt that the small amount of convenience it provides
is worth the great loss of system security. -- Patrick Volkerding

On Tue, 27 May 2008 07:08:55 +1000, Res wrote:

> Oh no! please, dont go there, its been peacful without that twat

okay...do you guys who use Brit/Oz/Scots-speak know that "twat" in North
America is a vulgar term for vagina? or did you mean it that way?
actually it could still be appropriate...

mister b <mist@b.com> writes:

> On Tue, 27 May 2008 07:08:55 +1000, Res wrote:
>
>> Oh no! please, dont go there, its been peacful without that twat
>
> okay...do you guys who use Brit/Oz/Scots-speak know that "twat" in North
> America is a vulgar term for vagina?

We not only know it, we invented it!!

,----
| The T-word occupies a special niche in literary history, however, thanks
| to a horrible mistake by Robert Browning, who included it in 'Pippa
| Passes' (1841) without knowing its true meaning. 'The owls and
| bats,/Cowls and twats,/Monks and nuns,/In a cloister's moods.' Poor
| Robert! He had been misled into thinking the word meant 'hat' by its
| appearance in 'Vanity of Vanities,' a poem of 1660, containing the
| treacherous lines: 'They'd talk't of his having a Cardinalls Hat,/They'd
| send him as soon an Old Nuns Twat.' (There is a lesson here about not
| using words unless one is very sure of their meaning.) [Hugh Rawson,
| "Wicked Words," 1989]
`----

> or did you mean it that way? actually it could still be appropriate...

Hard to think of a _more_ appropriate word in this instance :-)

atb

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Res wrote:

>i disagree with its removal as I dont consider it any more of
>a nightmare >to maintain then kde,

So when Patrick Volkerding said "KDE tends to build using the existing
build scripts with no changes at all. I can start the build and come
back to finished packages in a few hours. A GNOME update usually takes
at least a week of manual labor, and another week of cleaning up broken
things", do you think that he was lying to us all? Mentally deficient
in some way that makes him imagine those two weeks of work? Or is your
theory that the above was written by someone pretending to be Patrick
Volkerding? Surely you must have *some* reason for believing what you
wrote above. I just cannot figure out what that reason is.

On Mon, 26 May 2008, mister b wrote:

>
> On Tue, 27 May 2008 07:08:55 +1000, Res wrote:
>
>> Oh no! please, dont go there, its been peacful without that twat
>
> okay...do you guys who use Brit/Oz/Scots-speak know that "twat" in North
> America is a vulgar term for vagina? or did you mean it that way?
> actually it could still be appropriate...

Yep has the same meaning over here, and in relation to the person
concerned, it is most definately appropriate.


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On Tue, 27 May 2008, me@privacy.net wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Res wrote:
>
>> i disagree with its removal as I dont consider it any more of
>> a nightmare >to maintain then kde,
>
> So when Patrick Volkerding said "KDE tends to build using the existing
> build scripts with no changes at all. I can start the build and come
> back to finished packages in a few hours. A GNOME update usually takes
> at least a week of manual labor, and another week of cleaning up broken

you must have hella bad luck, never taken me much at all.

> things", do you think that he was lying to us all? Mentally deficient
> in some way that makes him imagine those two weeks of work? Or is your
> theory that the above was written by someone pretending to be Patrick
> Volkerding? Surely you must have *some* reason for believing what you
> wrote above. I just cannot figure out what that reason is.
>
>

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