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Does anyone have a copy of the post (or whole "Chiron's new system"
thread) from late 2001/early 2002 where Chiron goes into details on how he
optimized his new system? Tried searching Google Groups but it seems
Chiron was using the no archive flag back then. I got a partial threads
from Google (message IDs 20020101085320.3bac52c8.mbowles@satx.rr.com and
iksk3ug10batk2qmq1el9phjlicapkph57@4ax.com) which had some interesting
tidbits, but not with any of Chiron's posts. Even tried looking up the
reference message IDs in those starting messages, but all that got me to
was "not found" (which would be consistent with no archive flag set) and
another thread.

I also found a thread by Jurgen mentioning that thread (message ID
3C90F622.4010700@pophost.eunet.be) and another by buck that seems to be
quoting an uncached reply to Jurgen's post (message ID
pfd7bu43cem7efis1gl12oe0qrcpc0bsh0@4ax.com). Those had a few more
interesting tidbits, but I was hoping someone still had a copy of the full
thing.

Reason I ask is I need to optimize a PII 450 system for Slackware 10
because a single MUD process is chewing up 40% of the CPU with very low
memory load, which is just odd as usually LPMUD drivers are memory hogs,
not CPU ones. Already tried recompiling the driver with -O4 and
-march=pentium2, which yielded a moderate improvement in "snappiness" but
there's still the steady march to 40% cpu on ps output along with a steady
increase in processing lag for the process itself. This machine is also my
Internet workstation at home (typically using X w/ Fluxbox, Mozilla,
several terminals) due to certain restrictions in my ISP contract (such as
the large fine if one is caught sharing a connection between multiple
machines) so getting the CPU issue under control is a priority. There
didn't seem to be such issues using the old 8.1 (with server upgrades)
install that was on the machine previously, but recompiling for security
fixes was getting rather tedious and CPU taxing as well. I'm wondering if
the issue could be helped by optimizing the dynamically linked libraries
that the MUD driver uses.

Searching Google Groups for things like gcc and optimize/optimization,
seems many times someone asks about optimizing, they are pointed back to
Chiron's post. Unfortunately, it does not seem to be present in their
archives. I've spent several hours looking, even going down to just
browsing in the target date range of Dec 2001-Mar 2002. So if anyone has
it and is willing to email it to me, you should find a routable email
address by digging into the headers of this post.

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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Cichlidiot dared to utter,
> it seems
> Chiron was using the no archive flag back then.

Yes he was, and this is a good reason why that flag is bad.

> Those had a few more
> interesting tidbits, but I was hoping someone still had a copy of the full
> thing.

This isn't the whole thing, but...

Message-ID: <slrnatamfk.fnb.Chiron_Files@raven.home>

> due to certain restrictions in my ISP contract (such as
> the large fine if one is caught sharing a connection between multiple
> machines)

Use OpenBSD's pf and the modulate state and scrub options for better hiding
NAT.

> So if anyone has
> it and is willing to email it to me, you should find a routable email
> address by digging into the headers of this post.

Better yet, post it here so that it is better archived this time. :^)

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Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
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+Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.network> wrote:
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> In alt.os.linux.slackware, Cichlidiot dared to utter,
> > it seems
> > Chiron was using the no archive flag back then.

> Yes he was, and this is a good reason why that flag is bad.

> > Those had a few more
> > interesting tidbits, but I was hoping someone still had a copy of the full
> > thing.

> This isn't the whole thing, but...

> Message-ID: <slrnatamfk.fnb.Chiron_Files@raven.home>

> > due to certain restrictions in my ISP contract (such as
> > the large fine if one is caught sharing a connection between multiple
> > machines)

> Use OpenBSD's pf and the modulate state and scrub options for better hiding
> NAT.

> > So if anyone has
> > it and is willing to email it to me, you should find a routable email
> > address by digging into the headers of this post.

> Better yet, post it here so that it is better archived this time. :^)

> - --
> It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
> Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
> Ecclesiastes 7:5
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+Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.netWORK> wrote:
>
> Yes he was, and this is a good reason why that flag is bad.
>

It is probably good for those posts that simply say STFW because
those won't contribute anything to the google archive.

- Kurt

~kurt <actinouranium@netscape.net> wrote:
> +Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.netWORK> wrote:
> >
> > Yes he was, and this is a good reason why that flag is bad.
> >

> It is probably good for those posts that simply say STFW because
> those won't contribute anything to the google archive.

And that would take care of about 99.9% of -Cibahole-'s postings.

cordially, as always,

rm

~kurt <actinouranium@netscape.net> wrote:
> +Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.netWORK> wrote:
>>
>> Yes he was, and this is a good reason why that flag is bad.
>>

> It is probably good for those posts that simply say STFW because
> those won't contribute anything to the google archive.

One would have expected by the tone and content of this post, that above
referenced poster would have put said flag into the header. Particularly
since the content of the post only encourages certain other noise. One
would assume wrong however.

Please stick to the topic. If you don't have a copy of the optimization
post, move on along even if you didn't much care for Chiron. He did
contribute, and this was one of the contributions. And as far as BOFHs go,
he was mild and polite compared to a few I have run across. One of them
would have a veritable field day with some of you until he bored of the
repetition (the word "chew toy" comes to mind).

Cichlidiot <fishlover@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> One would have expected by the tone and content of this post, that above
> referenced poster would have put said flag into the header. Particularly

Good point - to some extent. However, I'm not going to add the no archive
header for every off topic post that I take part in.

> Please stick to the topic. If you don't have a copy of the optimization
> post, move on along even if you didn't much care for Chiron. He did

I wasn't refering to +Chiron+. Just an observation from a few years
ago when someone mentioned doing a google search for something on this
newsgroup and only coming up with STFW replies. I don't think +Chiron+
was *ever* able to stick to simply saing STFW or GAFC. Usually, he
was able to drag a simple "Fuck You" out into 80 or more lines of text.
I think there is even a mod quote about that aspect of his writing style.

> contribute, and this was one of the contributions. And as far as BOFHs go,
> he was mild and polite compared to a few I have run across. One of them
> would have a veritable field day with some of you until he bored of the
> repetition (the word "chew toy" comes to mind).

I'm not sure what you point is? Are you complaining about the thinned
skinned people in this newsgroup who get too easily offended? Not my
concern other than their occasional whining.

- Kurt

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Ralph Malph wrote:

> ~kurt <actinouranium@netscape.net> wrote:
> > +Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.netWORK> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes he was, and this is a good reason why that flag is bad.
> > >
>
> > It is probably good for those posts that simply say STFW because
> > those won't contribute anything to the google archive.
>
> And that would take care of about 99.9% of Roger Maynard's postings.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm


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NeoSadist is a pathetic loser <NeoSadist_is_a_pathetic_loser@justlinux.ca> wrote:
> Ralph Malph wrote:

> > ~kurt <actinouranium@netscape.net> wrote:
> > > +Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.netWORK> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes he was, and this is a good reason why that flag is bad.
> > > >
> >
> > > It is probably good for those posts that simply say STFW because
> > > those won't contribute anything to the google archive.
> >
> > And that would take care of about 99.9% of NeoSadist's postings.
> >
> > cordially, as always,
> >
> > rm