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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Adams-Blake Co.
 
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Default New install: Flop and CD are killing me

I'm writing this from the new Slack install so I hope it works.

Here is my fstab file

root@darkstar:/home/al# more /etc/fstab
/dev/hdb2 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb1 / reiserfs defaults 1 1
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,owner,ro 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0

I can mount a floppy or a CD from root if there is media in the drive. If
no media, no mount. I can't get the CD out of the drive until I umount it.

With a flop, if I pull the media and pop in another and do an ls -l I still
get the old stuff from the removed disk!!

I don't have an icon on my KDE desktop.

I've been all over Goog but can't seem to find exactly what to do to auto
mount my drives. Is there a "supermount" like Mandrake has?

I've spent hours this AM trying to get these two devices to work they way a
normal user would want them to.... pop in a CD, click on a desktop icon and
up comes Konqueror file-manager.

Have pity on an old man and tell me what to do... or give me the right like
to read (and the man pages are like greek!!)

Thanks guys. I hope this makes it to the NG. First post with Knode on this
box.

Al


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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
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Adams-Blake Co. wrote:

> I'm writing this from the new Slack install so I hope it works.
>
> Here is my fstab file
>
> root@darkstar:/home/al# more /etc/fstab
> /dev/hdb2 swap swap defaults 0 0
> /dev/hdb1 / reiserfs defaults 1 1
> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,owner,ro 0 0
> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0
> devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
>
> I can mount a floppy or a CD from root if there is media in the
> drive. If no media, no mount. I can't get the CD out of the drive
> until I umount it.


Have you clicked on the kde desktop to give you the icons, right click,
top line create new, then check the permissions.

Change the fstab to user where it says owner and then go into /etc/group
and add the user to disk as so, xxx,user, I hope this works I haven't
seen 9.1 it'll take at least another week to get to Europe!

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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
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Two Ravens wrote:

>
> Have you clicked on the kde desktop to give you the icons, right
> click, top line create new, then check the permissions.
>
> Change the fstab to user where it says owner and then go into
> /etc/group and add the user to disk as so, xxx,user, I hope this works
> I haven't seen 9.1 it'll take at least another week to get to Europe!
>

where I wrote user it should say > xxxx,adm,name < the user name
you gave when you added the user, eg adam. Is that clear? I ask as it's
getting near my bed time I've got a very early start tomorrow.
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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
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Two Ravens wrote:

I've been so helpful all week, that i'll have to bite a newbie next
week, hard, 'till the blood flows.
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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Glyn Millington
 
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"Adams-Blake Co." <atakeoutcanton@adams-blaketakeout.com> writes:

> I'm writing this from the new Slack install so I hope it works.


It does - great!

> Here is my fstab file


Ok Al,

Take a look at the signature below - especially the STW line. If you
take a trip to that link, search this group's archive on the key word -
"mount" then the first item Google reports will give you the answer as
far as fstab is concerned.


As for icons on KDE - doesn't a right click on the desktop give you a
chance to add new things?




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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
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Two Ravens wrote:

> Change the fstab to user where it says owner and then go into
> /etc/group and add the user to disk as so, xxx,user,


And because he is a KDE user he could start KUser and then choose the
"Groups" pane. Here he should highlight the disk group and hit "Edit"
button and then add his "User".

Those GUI's are really making things easy. Or do they?
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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
David
 
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Thomas Overgaard wrote:
> Two Ravens wrote:
>
>
>>Change the fstab to user where it says owner and then go into
>>/etc/group and add the user to disk as so, xxx,user,

>
>
> And because he is a KDE user he could start KUser and then choose the
> "Groups" pane. Here he should highlight the disk group and hit "Edit"
> button and then add his "User".
>
> Those GUI's are really making things easy. Or do they?


All those buttons to find and click.
It's probably just as easy to use the command line.

# usermod -G gid username

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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Neil Koozer
 
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Default Re: New install: Flop and CD are killing me

Adams-Blake Co. wrote:
[...]
> I can mount a floppy or a CD from root if there is media in the drive. If
> no media, no mount. I can't get the CD out of the drive until I umount it.


That's normal. Removable media should not be removed until unmounted.

> With a flop, if I pull the media and pop in another and do an ls -l I
> still get the old stuff from the removed disk!!


The only reason you could get the disk out is because there is no electronic
control on floppy ejection. The floppy directory and anything recently
written is in memory so that high speed operation can be done without
excessive disk i/o. If you take it out without unmounting, you not only
still see the directory, but you also will loose any newly written material
that has not yet been synced to the disk.

Neil

ps. Congrats on the achievements so far. That SATA stuff was above & beyond
what almost any newbee would have to deal with.


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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Menno Duursma
 
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Default Re: New install: Flop and CD are killing me

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 19:40:35 +0000, Adams-Blake Co. wrote:

[Snip - stuff others have answerd already.]

> no media, no mount. I can't get the CD out of the drive until I umount it.


Try "eject" and if you want it under a button, just create one.

[Snip - more stuff that should already be working by now.]

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Old 02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Adams-Blake Co.
 
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Default Re: New install: Flop and CD are killing me

Thomas Overgaard wrote:

> Two Ravens wrote:
>
>> Change the fstab to user where it says owner and then go into
>> /etc/group and add the user to disk as so, xxx,user,

>
> And because he is a KDE user he could start KUser and then choose the
> "Groups" pane. Here he should highlight the disk group and hit "Edit"
> button and then add his "User".
>
> Those GUI's are really making things easy. Or do they?


OK. Thanks 2R. I followed the instructions read the man for the fstab file
(I never knew about that one.... Mandrake hides it from you via their GUI
stuff) and both the CD and the floppy work. I assume that the methodology
is that you have to load the media and then mount, and later umount to
unload the media. How is Mandrake able to do this as it's done in Windows
without the mounting and umounting? Is there a similar methodology
available for Slackware? Just curious. Not a big deal as I don't use either
media all that much.



Al


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