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...I did not plan to be here so soon but ...at the log in prompt I get
the following message:

santolix login: root
password:
Linux 2.4.31
last login: Thursday Feb 16 18.30:10 +5.30 2006 on tty1
you have mail
-bash:id:command not found
-bash:fortune:command not found
-bash:id:command not found
root@santolix~#
and from here I can only use the command cd; cat; echo; etc...
the echo $PATH output is this :
/usr/loca/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:
/opt/www.htdig/bin:/usr/lib/java/bin:/usr/lib/java/jre/bin:/opt/kde/bin:/bin:/usr/share/textmf/bin

give that I am logged in as root shouldn't the /sbin directory be in
the path?
and what is this /opt/www.htg/bin doing here?
is this search engine part of slackware?...

puzzled!
santo

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Santo wrote:
> ...I did not plan to be here so soon but ...at the log in prompt I get
> the following message:
>
> santolix login: root
> password:
> Linux 2.4.31
> last login: Thursday Feb 16 18.30:10 +5.30 2006 on tty1
> you have mail

Clues ---.
|
V
> -bash:id:command not found
> -bash:fortune:command not found
> -bash:id:command not found
A
|
Clues ---'


> root@santolix~#
> and from here I can only use the command cd; cat; echo; etc...
> the echo $PATH output is this :
> /usr/loca/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:
> /opt/www.htdig/bin:/usr/lib/java/bin:/usr/lib/java/jre/bin:/opt/kde/bin:/bin:/usr/share/textmf/bin
>
> give that I am logged in as root shouldn't the /sbin directory be in
> the path?

Yes, but...

Your /etc/profile script gets run with each terminal login. The primary
responsibility of this script is to set up the user's preliminary environment,
including the PATH. In this script, you will find a specific test for whether
the script is being run for the root user or not. This test looks like

# For root users, ensure that /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin, and /sbin are in
# the $PATH. Some means of connection don't add these by default (sshd comes
# to mind).
if [ "`id -u`" = "0" ]; then
echo $PATH | grep /usr/local/sbin 1> /dev/null 2> /dev/null
if [ ! $? = 0 ]; then
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:$PATH
fi
fi

Since you apparently do not have the 'id' command installed, the script thinks
that you are /not/ root, and does not give you the PATH given to root.

Now, since id is part of the core utilities that you are required to install in
Slackware, it appears that you have not performed a complete install. Please go
back and install the coreutils package (in the slackware/a/ directory of your
install medium), and try again.

> and what is this /opt/www.htg/bin doing here?
> is this search engine part of slackware?...

You apparently installed the slackware/n/htdig- package. htdig is a search
engine; it's path is added to PATH by the /etc/profile.d/htdig.sh script invoked
by /etc/profile on user login.


> puzzled!
> santo
>

HTH
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Lew Pitcher
IT Specialist, Enterprise Data Systems,
Enterprise Technology Solutions, TD Bank Financial Group

(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employers')
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....but why all of a sudden? the system was working fine and then today
all this?...

>You apparently installed the slackware/n/htdig- package. htdig is a search
>engine; it's path is added to PATH by the /etc/profile.d/htdig.sh script invoked
>by /etc/profile on user login.

I did not make a selection of packages but install the Basic System, if
I remember the name correctly...but again , why I could use the system
until yesterday and today, out of the blue,
I can't?

Anyway I'll see what the /etc/profile file contain...
Santo

Santo wrote:

> why I could use the system
> until yesterday and today, out of the blue,
> I can't?


Wecome to the choir of electrical/electronic hardware users;^).
And supposedly computers started from "logical" gates. LOL.

Have fun

Stanislaw
Slack user from Ulladulla.

Santo wrote:
> ...I did not plan to be here so soon but ...at the log in prompt I get
> the following message:
>
> santolix login: root
> password:
> Linux 2.4.31
> last login: Thursday Feb 16 18.30:10 +5.30 2006 on tty1
> you have mail
> -bash:id:command not found
> -bash:fortune:command not found
> -bash:id:command not found

Check the permissions.
ls -l -d /usr/bin/id
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 15572 2004-03-16 06:08 /usr/bin/id

ls -d -l /usr/bin
ls -l -d /usr/bin/
drwxr-xr-x 2 root bin 32768 2006-01-17 02:40 /usr/bin//

and similarly for /usr

Chance are that /usr or /usr/bin does not have read (or write)
permission. Which prevent the system from finding the command.

Olive

"Santo" <nanci@auroville.org.in> wrote:
> I did not make a selection of packages but install the Basic System, if
> I remember the name correctly...but again , why I could use the system
> until yesterday and today, out of the blue,
> I can't?

My guess is that you yesterday while you still could use the system you
logged in as root and as root you did something that broke your system.
There is a reason that you shouldn't be logged in as root more than
absolutely necessary. Root is very powerful and a small mistake can cause
a lot of damage. A normal user would not have been able to remove the id
command.

Another possibility is that the file disappeared because of a broken file
system. That is rather unlikely today when we have journaling file systems
which usually even are able to save the situation when the power has been
shut off without properly unmounting the file systems first. However, you
could still get a broken file systems if you have a hardware error.

regards Henrik
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olive wrote:
> Santo wrote:
> > ...I did not plan to be here so soon but ...at the log in prompt I get
> > the following message:
> >
> > santolix login: root
> > password:
> > Linux 2.4.31
> > last login: Thursday Feb 16 18.30:10 +5.30 2006 on tty1
> > you have mail
> > -bash:id:command not found
> > -bash:fortune:command not found
> > -bash:id:command not found
>
> Check the permissions.
> ls -l -d /usr/bin/id
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 15572 2004-03-16 06:08 /usr/bin/id
>
> ls -d -l /usr/bin
> ls -l -d /usr/bin/
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root bin 32768 2006-01-17 02:40 /usr/bin//
>
> and similarly for /usr
>
> Chance are that /usr or /usr/bin does not have read (or write)
> permission. Which prevent the system from finding the command.
>
> Olive


The reason why I do not find the commands is that he /usr file system
is not mounted automatically at boot. I have to mount it manually
everytime I log in...
after mounting /usr I exit and log in again , and only then I get the
proper PATH for root.

Now there is a problem with the X server.... I think.
When I type xstart, or vim, I get the message :
"Error while trying to load shared library...libXmuu.so.....file does
not exist"
"Error while trying to load shared library...libX11.so.6...file does
not exist"
( sorry I can not be more precise now, I did not write it down and I am
trying to remember it...),...

....before I go for a new install I wanted to share these "problems"...
Santo

Henrik Carlqvist wrote:
> "Santo" <nanci@auroville.org.in> wrote:

> My guess is that you yesterday while you still could use the system you
> logged in as root and as root you did something that broke your system.


....no I did not, but

>when the power has been
> shut off without properly unmounting the file systems first

This DID happened, unfortunately here in India pwere cut are not
uncommon and my UPS is not strong enough and when a power cut occurs it
reboots the system ...

> regards Henrik

Santo

>> when the power has been shut off without properly unmounting the file
>> systems first

> This DID happened, unfortunately here in India pwere cut are not
> uncommon and my UPS is not strong enough and when a power cut occurs it
> reboots the system ...

Which file system do you use for you partitions? If you don't know the
answer simply show us the output of the "mount" command. A journaling file
system like reiserfs or ext3 are likely to be able to handle power cuts
without any trouble. However, a power brownout are really tricky. A
computer that doesn't go down completely, but get corruptet contents in
RAM could cause any kind of strange errors. As you have an UPS you are
probably safe from brownouts.

regards Henrik
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"Santo" <nanci@auroville.org.in> wrote:
> The reason why I do not find the commands is that he /usr file system
> is not mounted automatically at boot.

Why? There is probably an explanation in the logs. Check
/var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/debug and the output from
"dmesg".

> "Error while trying to load shared library...libX11.so.6...file does
> not exist"

It seems as if you /usr file system is broken. Getting a broken /usr is
not very common. Usually a file system gets broken when there have been
writes to the file system that wasn't completed. However, /usr is a
partition which does not get many changes unlike other partitions
like /home, /tmp or /var/tmp.

regards Henrik
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