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Old 02-21-2008, 04:34 AM
Stanislaw Flatto
 
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Default [OT] The 'glory' of 'primitivski' Slackware.

Just venting accumulated pressure.
Since 12 installed itself(?!@) on mine box I had rather "interesting"
few weeks.
As I grew with this creature since last century/millenium I believed
that it shown me _all_ tricks and no additional suprises in its sleeves.
Wrong. But it is result of my own making.
For years I had well behaving distro which have been doing its job(s)
in proper respectful silence.
'Mea culpa' I decided to teach it to talk. It meant to join few user
groups and fight configurations till it learned and started talking back.
So now I have talking and singing radio stations from all over the
globe. Some of them are even dancing in xine.
Here comes the bad hickup, xine when closed takes with it the whole
X-windows system and leaves me with "DOS" screen. _CLI_ to uneducated.
When in CLI had to do some file transfers so invoked mc and chanced on
mine mp3 directory. When hitting CR on a file it started singing like it
should in CLI but no hint of any volume control. Some thing to learn later.
With all those troubles I simply love this monster.

Have fun

Stanislaw
Slack user from Ulladulla.
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:34 AM
andrew
 
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On 2007-09-08, Stanislaw Flatto <compaid@brownbear.com.au> wrote:
> Just venting accumulated pressure.
> Since 12 installed itself(?!@) on mine box I had rather "interesting"
> few weeks.
> As I grew with this creature since last century/millenium I believed
> that it shown me _all_ tricks and no additional suprises in its sleeves.
> Wrong. But it is result of my own making.
> For years I had well behaving distro which have been doing its job(s)
> in proper respectful silence.
> 'Mea culpa' I decided to teach it to talk. It meant to join few user
> groups and fight configurations till it learned and started talking back.
> So now I have talking and singing radio stations from all over the
> globe. Some of them are even dancing in xine.
> Here comes the bad hickup, xine when closed takes with it the whole
> X-windows system and leaves me with "DOS" screen. _CLI_ to uneducated.
> When in CLI had to do some file transfers so invoked mc and chanced on
> mine mp3 directory. When hitting CR on a file it started singing like it
> should in CLI but no hint of any volume control. Some thing to learn later.
> With all those troubles I simply love this monster.


Hey Stan!!! Good to hear from the only Slackware user in Ulladulla
again :-) Have you tried mplayer for all the singing and dancing? It
certainly has none of the vagaries of the various gui players.

Andrew

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Ron Gibson
 
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Default Re: [OT] The 'glory' of 'primitivski' Slackware.

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 00:06:19 +0000, Stanislaw Flatto wrote:

> transfers so invoked mc and chanced on mine mp3 directory. When hitting
> CR on a file it started singing like it should in CLI but no hint of
> any volume control. Some thing to learn later. With all those troubles


aumix works fine as a CLI audio control.

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Old 02-21-2008, 04:34 AM
Manuel Otto
 
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On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 00:45:50 +0000 (UTC), andrew <andrew@ilium.invalid>
wrote:

>On 2007-09-08, Stanislaw Flatto <compaid@brownbear.com.au> wrote:
>> Just venting accumulated pressure.
>> Since 12 installed itself(?!@) on mine box I had rather "interesting"
>> few weeks.
>> As I grew with this creature since last century/millenium I believed
>> that it shown me _all_ tricks and no additional suprises in its sleeves.
>> Wrong. But it is result of my own making.
>> For years I had well behaving distro which have been doing its job(s)
>> in proper respectful silence.
>> 'Mea culpa' I decided to teach it to talk. It meant to join few user
>> groups and fight configurations till it learned and started talking back.
>> So now I have talking and singing radio stations from all over the
>> globe. Some of them are even dancing in xine.
>> Here comes the bad hickup, xine when closed takes with it the whole
>> X-windows system and leaves me with "DOS" screen. _CLI_ to uneducated.
>> When in CLI had to do some file transfers so invoked mc and chanced on
>> mine mp3 directory. When hitting CR on a file it started singing like it
>> should in CLI but no hint of any volume control. Some thing to learn later.
>> With all those troubles I simply love this monster.

>
>Hey Stan!!! Good to hear from the only Slackware user in Ulladulla
>again :-) Have you tried mplayer for all the singing and dancing? It
>certainly has none of the vagaries of the various gui players.
>
> Andrew


Mplayer:
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#source

Mplayer codecs:
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dloa...#binary_codecs
(will let you even play all current types of WMV movies).

A basic skin to start with, I would go for skin 'Blue':
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#skins

And then SMplayer (better then KMplayer), an advanced skin on top of
that, which forfills about al my needs:
http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/en/index.php

Or Slackware packages for Mplayer with skin allreaddy buit-in, and
SMplayer:
http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_...layer&ver=12.0

And Mplayer codecs:
http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_...ntial&ver=11.0
(Works on Slackware 12, and if not, just extract to the appropiate
directory).

Manuel
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:35 AM
Martin Lefebvre
 
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Manuel Otto <not-for-mail@adress.is.invalid> wrote:
> Mplayer:
> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#source
>
> Mplayer codecs:
> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dloa...#binary_codecs
> (will let you even play all current types of WMV movies).
>
> A basic skin to start with, I would go for skin 'Blue':
> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#skins
>
> And then SMplayer (better then KMplayer), an advanced skin on top of
> that, which forfills about al my needs:
> http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/en/index.php
>
> Or Slackware packages for Mplayer with skin allreaddy buit-in, and
> SMplayer:
> http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_...layer&ver=12.0
>
> And Mplayer codecs:
> http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_...ntial&ver=11.0
> (Works on Slackware 12, and if not, just extract to the appropiate
> directory).
>


for something as sensitive as mplayer, I would recommend the build script at
http://www.slackbuilds.org. Many people have reported that mplayer seems to
run a lot better when compiled on the machine it's intended to run on.

Both the codecs and the player are available from
http://www.slackbuilds.org/repository/12.0/multimedia/, and the MPlayer
SlackBuild installs the Blue skin.

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Manuel Otto
 
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Default Re: [OT] The 'glory' of 'primitivski' Slackware.

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:42:05 GMT, Martin Lefebvre <dadexter@gmale.com>
wrote:

>Manuel Otto <not-for-mail@adress.is.invalid> wrote:
>> Mplayer:
>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#source
>>
>> Mplayer codecs:
>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dloa...#binary_codecs
>> (will let you even play all current types of WMV movies).
>>
>> A basic skin to start with, I would go for skin 'Blue':
>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#skins
>>
>> And then SMplayer (better then KMplayer), an advanced skin on top of
>> that, which forfills about al my needs:
>> http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/en/index.php
>>
>> Or Slackware packages for Mplayer with skin allreaddy buit-in, and
>> SMplayer:
>> http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_...layer&ver=12.0
>>
>> And Mplayer codecs:
>> http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_...ntial&ver=11.0
>> (Works on Slackware 12, and if not, just extract to the appropiate
>> directory).
>>

>
>for something as sensitive as mplayer, I would recommend the build script at
>http://www.slackbuilds.org. Many people have reported that mplayer seems to
>run a lot better when compiled on the machine it's intended to run on.


I had some problem with that buildscript (but might have been me
running buildscripts for the first time):

When building, at the end an error saying no skin available. Made
fresh start, deleted stuff which was builded, added skin to suggested
build directory: builded, installed, mplayer crash.

Again fresh start, builded with no skin this time, installed package,
and extracted skin manually to it's directory: no more problems.

Maybe just me.

Now it just works fine. Nice software.

Most important is that it works, if problems, there are workarounds.

>Both the codecs and the player are available from
>http://www.slackbuilds.org/repository/12.0/multimedia/, and the MPlayer
>SlackBuild installs the Blue skin.


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Manuel Otto
 
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:27:44 +0200, Manuel Otto
<not-for-mail@adress.is.invalid> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:42:05 GMT, Martin Lefebvre <dadexter@gmale.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Manuel Otto <not-for-mail@adress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>> Mplayer:
>>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
>>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#source
>>>
>>> Mplayer codecs:
>>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dloa...#binary_codecs
>>> (will let you even play all current types of WMV movies).
>>>
>>> A basic skin to start with, I would go for skin 'Blue':
>>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#skins
>>>
>>> And then SMplayer (better then KMplayer), an advanced skin on top of
>>> that, which forfills about al my needs:
>>> http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/en/index.php
>>>
>>> Or Slackware packages for Mplayer with skin allreaddy buit-in, and
>>> SMplayer:
>>> http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_...layer&ver=12.0
>>>
>>> And Mplayer codecs:
>>> http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_...ntial&ver=11.0
>>> (Works on Slackware 12, and if not, just extract to the appropiate
>>> directory).
>>>

>>
>>for something as sensitive as mplayer, I would recommend the build script at
>>http://www.slackbuilds.org. Many people have reported that mplayer seems to
>>run a lot better when compiled on the machine it's intended to run on.

>
>I had some problem with that buildscript (but might have been me
>running buildscripts for the first time):
>
>When building, at the end an error saying no skin available. Made
>fresh start, deleted stuff which was builded, added skin to suggested
>build directory: builded, installed, mplayer crash.
>
>Again fresh start, builded with no skin this time, installed package,
>and extracted skin manually to it's directory: no more problems.
>
>Maybe just me.
>
>Now it just works fine. Nice software.
>
>Most important is that it works, if problems, there are workarounds.
>
>>Both the codecs and the player are available from
>>http://www.slackbuilds.org/repository/12.0/multimedia/, and the MPlayer
>>SlackBuild installs the Blue skin.


P.S.

Make sure the skin is in the build directory, which for me resulted in
mplayer crash, but used different kernel then, and might have made
mistakes.

http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12...media/MPlayer/ :

"This script is written to install the default "Blue" theme for
MPlayer, and it will print an error (but allow you to continue) if you
don't have the theme tarball in the build directory".

Will try it again exactly that way, if it works (without crash) this
time, maybe mplayer will run even smoother as it allreaddy does.
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Martin Lefebvre wrote:

> Many people have reported that mplayer seems to
> run a lot better when compiled on the machine it's intended to run on.


I can confirm that. But it still performed better than e.g. mpg321 -
that one was stuttering, while mplayer played just fine with ~60% of CPU
load (128kbps stereo MP3 on a P1@150MHz) - both built from source with
the same optimalizations.

Just watch out what you compile in - I forgot the Theora installed,
compiled mplayer, removed Theora and then mplayer won't run complaining
libtheora is missing.

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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:41:02 +0200, Manuel Otto
<not-for-mail@adress.is.invalid> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:27:44 +0200, Manuel Otto
><not-for-mail@adress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:42:05 GMT, Martin Lefebvre <dadexter@gmale.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Manuel Otto <not-for-mail@adress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Mplayer:
>>>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
>>>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#source
>>>>
>>>> Mplayer codecs:
>>>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dloa...#binary_codecs
>>>> (will let you even play all current types of WMV movies).
>>>>
>>>> A basic skin to start with, I would go for skin 'Blue':
>>>> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#skins
>>>>
>>>> And then SMplayer (better then KMplayer), an advanced skin on top of
>>>> that, which forfills about al my needs:
>>>> http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/en/index.php
>>>>
>>>> Or Slackware packages for Mplayer with skin allreaddy buit-in, and
>>>> SMplayer:
>>>> http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_...layer&ver=12.0
>>>>
>>>> And Mplayer codecs:
>>>> http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_...ntial&ver=11.0
>>>> (Works on Slackware 12, and if not, just extract to the appropiate
>>>> directory).
>>>>
>>>
>>>for something as sensitive as mplayer, I would recommend the build script at
>>>http://www.slackbuilds.org. Many people have reported that mplayer seems to
>>>run a lot better when compiled on the machine it's intended to run on.

>>
>>I had some problem with that buildscript (but might have been me
>>running buildscripts for the first time):
>>
>>When building, at the end an error saying no skin available. Made
>>fresh start, deleted stuff which was builded, added skin to suggested
>>build directory: builded, installed, mplayer crash.
>>
>>Again fresh start, builded with no skin this time, installed package,
>>and extracted skin manually to it's directory: no more problems.
>>
>>Maybe just me.
>>
>>Now it just works fine. Nice software.
>>
>>Most important is that it works, if problems, there are workarounds.
>>
>>>Both the codecs and the player are available from
>>>http://www.slackbuilds.org/repository/12.0/multimedia/, and the MPlayer
>>>SlackBuild installs the Blue skin.

>
>P.S.
>
>Make sure the skin is in the build directory, which for me resulted in
>mplayer crash, but used different kernel then, and might have made
>mistakes.
>
>http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12...media/MPlayer/ :
>
>"This script is written to install the default "Blue" theme for
>MPlayer, and it will print an error (but allow you to continue) if you
>don't have the theme tarball in the build directory".
>
>Will try it again exactly that way, if it works (without crash) this
>time, maybe mplayer will run even smoother as it allreaddy does.


I did rebuild mplayer withh the slackbuild, not that crash anymore
that I previously had, seems to run better too. So I guess I made
mistake before...

There's a package SMPlayer now (maybe allready for some time, but I
didn't notice) for Slack 12.0 at
http://www.linuxpackages.net/search_...layer&ver=12.0

(SMPlayer = MPlayer front-end).

It has a much improved GUI and a few more languages, and some other
skins.
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