[crossposted to alt.os.linux.slackware,sci.electronics.design,rec. puzzles
- please manage crossposted followups intelligently. Thanks.]

Have any of you encountered this: http://messenger.yahoo.com yet?

Well, I know anyone using KDE on Slackware will have seen it using
Konqueror - it probably shows up in all the browsers, but I'm
terribly, terribly curious as to what shows up on a Doze comp.
i.e., I'm sure the page is there, but is the heading, "Yahoo!
Messenger for Unix"?

I have my computer and router configured such that I can sit at
my desk, and boot Slack 10.0 and do everything I need to do
except AutoCAD Mechanical Desktop 6 and my weekly time sheet,
which they _insist_ is in MS Word 2000 format. Frankly, I'm
still a little iffy about Free Software (not like free beers)
that tries to do what Micro$oft's stuff does, which was written
by paid programmers.

But what works, works.

But this thing on Yahoo - Yikes!

I've heard of "instant messaging", and have actually "chat"ted
with someone, but I'd thought that "instant messaging" was in
the purview of AOL, with MS dabbling, and lessee, I don't
remember what vehicle I was using for my most recent chatting,
except that "vehicle" was the name of the computer I was using
at the time, but previous to that, I was using IRC, Internet
Relay Chat, which I even wonder if there still is such of a
thing, and if so, I wonder if you can still get live kiddie
porn on it.

Anyway, it seems that Yahoo has a script that can tie into
some sort of instant messaging thing, but you have to download
a precompiled binary, which apparently it makes a difference
which version of Redmond^H^H^H^HHat or Debian or FreeBSD you're
using, and I've either forgotten in this tirade whether the
source is there or if being sent off on a wild goose hunt to
look for source is what triggered me off into rant mode, when
I figured out that _some_body is making some money there, on
a Linux base, and I don't know how I should feel about it. I
really, well, part of me, has aspirations to being a Linux
purist, but then another part wonders, "But is that just to
make some kind of _statement?_" and another part wonders, "Is
this a good thing, or a bad thing?" and another part wonders,
"Are people going to think we're crazy for having these
discussions?" and The Pig Bladder From Uranus slaps us upside
the head while we're posting our stoned rantings and says,
"SHUT THE F#CK UP, YOU STUPID #~!!@@#$%^^&*(()))_!!!!!!!!!"

ObPuz:
So, what's everybody's opinion of Yahoo Instant Messaging,
and should I care about it?

Thanks,
Rich

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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Rich Grise dared to utter,
> [crossposted to alt.os.linux.slackware,sci.electronics.design,rec. puzzles
> - please manage crossposted followups intelligently. Thanks.]

How would you like the handled? If you're going to cross-post and ask
people to do so intelligently, you should do so yourself, but setting
the Followup-To: header as I have done here.

> Have any of you encountered this: http://messenger.yahoo.com yet?

Yeah, everyone had heard of Yahoo! Messenger, AOL's AIM, MS's
Messenger. What's the big deal?

> Well, I know anyone using KDE on Slackware will have seen it using
> Konqueror - it probably shows up in all the browsers, but I'm
> terribly, terribly curious as to what shows up on a Doze comp.
> i.e., I'm sure the page is there, but is the heading, "Yahoo!
> Messenger for Unix"?

That's trivial stuff, really. The web server just looks at the headers
your web browser sends to identify what operating system you are
running and sends you to the page with the correct utility to download.
Big whoop. If you're really interested, some web browsers have an
emulation mode where they can mask themselves as another browser or OS.
IIRC, Opera has done this for some time and Firefox has this
functionality as well.

> I've heard of "instant messaging", and have actually "chat"ted
> with someone, but I'd thought that "instant messaging" was in
> the purview of AOL, with MS dabbling

Why don't you STFW? One google for "instant messaging" brings up AOL,
jabber, Yahoo!, MSN, ICQ, etc.

> previous to that, I was using IRC, Internet
> Relay Chat, which I even wonder if there still is such of a
> thing, and if so, I wonder if you can still get live kiddie
> porn on it.

A) Yes, IRC is still around and has never gone anywhere. Why don't you
do your own research before asking an obvious question that makes
yourself look silly?
B) Why do you want live kiddie porn?
C) Why do you admit to wanting live kiddie porn?
D) Don't answer B and C.

> Anyway, it seems that Yahoo has a script that can tie into
> some sort of instant messaging thing, but you have to download
> a precompiled binary

No, no script. It's a binary. Scripts aren't binaries (though
technically I suppose you can argue that every piece of software is a
binary).

> I figured out that _some_body is making some money there, on
> a Linux base, and I don't know how I should feel about it.

What do you mean "don't know how you should feel about it"? OMG, heaven
forbide that some one actually make money, the root of all evil, with
software that runs on a free OS! There's nothing at all wrong with
this and why should you care? If you don't want to use non-free
software, you don't have to. There are plenty of open source IM clients
out there that will do Yahoo! Instant Messanging.

- --
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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Rich Grise wrote:

>
> ObPuz:
> So, what's everybody's opinion of Yahoo Instant Messaging,
> and should I care about it?

I feel like a kindergarden teacher trying to tell YOU what YOU should
care about.
To the point, on ANY MS-Glassware install on my boxen those parts are
never installed (the foursome of different messengers/chatters/gossipers)
So, what was the question, again?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>

Welcome

Stanislaw.

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:03:04 +0000, Rich Grise wrote:

> ObPuz:
> So, what's everybody's opinion of Yahoo Instant Messaging, and should I
> care about it?

Don't bother with the proprietary client. Google "gaim". And "Jabber".

On 2005-06-04, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net> wrote:

> Have any of you encountered this: http://messenger.yahoo.com yet?

What do you mean, "encountered"? Are you asking if anyone is using
the Yahoo IC protocol or using the Yahoo IM client? I use the Yahoo
protocol because that's what my M$ friend uses, but I do it using
gaim, the IM client that comes with Slack.

nb

>Have any of you encountered this: http://messenger.yahoo.com yet?
>..."Yahoo! Messenger for Unix"?
> Rich Grise

There's this thing called open source software 8-)
where you can use the same app without learning
a new interface for each platform on which you might work:
http://www.google.com/search?&q=Linu...odi+GAIM+7-zip

As Ed said:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:...acOS-X+Windows

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:14:27 +0000, +Alan Hicks+ wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.os.linux.slackware.]
> In alt.os.linux.slackware, Rich Grise dared to utter,
....
>> previous to that, I was using IRC, Internet
>> Relay Chat, which I even wonder if there still is such of a
>> thing, and if so, I wonder if you can still get live kiddie
>> porn on it.
>
> A) Yes, IRC is still around and has never gone anywhere. Why don't you
> do your own research before asking an obvious question that makes
> yourself look silly?

Because I'm an idiot?

> B) Why do you want live kiddie porn?
> C) Why do you admit to wanting live kiddie porn?
> D) Don't answer B and C.

When did I say I _wanted_ it? All I said was that you can _get_ it.

But thanks for noticing ;-)

Cheers!
Rich