Al C. wrote:

> Bryan Bibb wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 09:41:31 -0700, Al C. wrote:
>>
>>> Here is my config from 9.1. What is the relationship between the config
>>> of the kernal and the rc.modules file?
>>
>> The parport driver is built as a module:
>>
>>> CONFIG_PARPORT=m
>>
>> Thus, you just remove the # from this line in rc.modules:
>>
>> # /sbin/modprobe parport_pc
>>
>> Parallel support isn't removed; it's there with lots of other stuff
>> (28MB worth in the 2.6.7 modules directory) that doesn't need to be
>> loaded on every machine by default.
>
> I'm still not clear on the concept.
>
> OK, the driver is a module and the kernel is told to "make room" for it,
> right? But if line is commented out in rc.modules doesn't that mean that
> it does not get loaded?
>
> Or does kmod come into play here and this maybe rc.modules is not used.
>
> What's the deal here?
>

The deal here is that you're presenting as as incorrigible blockhead.

You've ignored the very post you're replying to.

-quoted from above, excerpted
> Bryan Bibb wrote:
>> The parport driver is built as a module:
>>> CONFIG_PARPORT=m
>> Thus, you just remove the # from this line in rc.modules:
>> # /sbin/modprobe parport_pc
--------------------
So your question:

> OK, the driver is a module and the kernel is told to "make room" for it,
> right? But if line is commented out in rc.modules doesn't that mean that
> it does not get loaded?

was answered two paragraphs before you asked it.

You uncomment it from rc.modules, and the next time rc.modules gets
executed, it gets loaded.

Can you really not help it, or are you intentionally being obtuse?

Thanks,
Rich

Bryan Bibb wrote:

> I'm actually not sure about this, since I'm running hotplug and my
> parport_pc module isn't loaded at boot. I don't know enough about
> hotplug to speak authoritatively about it. All I know is that with
> udev it creates all the right conditions for my usb card reader to
> work without my intervention.

About the extent of my knowledge about hotplug is that it seems
to be finding my internal NIC, because the driver's getting loaded
even though I never explicitly told it to or even installed one.

I spent some time tracking down howcome I had two dhcpcds running,
and finally learned that I didn't need to put modprobe sis900
in rc.netdevice. :-)

And I'm also presuming that that's the one that finds my USB
ports, and makes them appear as devices when I plug into them.

Cheers!
Rich

Al C. wrote:

> No. You win this one.
>
> Normally, I'd kick the crap out of you, but don't have the time or energy
> for it now. So I raise the white flag, throw in the towel and walk away.
> You're the better man today. After six weeks of 24/7 care-giving to a
> semi-crippled spouse I just don't have it me to take you on. So today is
> your day... enjoy it. You got the better of me.
>
> Monday is our 23rd wedding anniversary. I've watched her change from a
> young girl to a withered old woman from this disease. Sadness and
> anger.... followed by more sadness and anger.
>
> You'll get your fight, nb.
>
> Oh yes you will.
>
> But not today.
>
> You win this one.

In case if you didn't get the memo, nobody on the net cares about your
personal life. Seriously. So for a future reference, don't confuse your
personal life with internet. Nobody will care.

Dominik L.. Borkowski wrote:

>
> In case if you didn't get the memo, nobody on the net cares about your
> personal life. Seriously. So for a future reference, don't confuse your
> personal life with internet. Nobody will care.

Nobody will care? Nobody? None at all?

I received a LOT of nice notes from people on this NG.

People care a lot more than YOU give them credit for. Dom, not everyone has
the "It's only about me" entitlement mentality. There's a lot of good people
on AOLS. A lot of them. I only hope you never have to find out how many.

Thanks folks. I showed the notes to my wife and she appreciates the good
wishes. Everyday is better than the one before. We're doing well.



ANC

Al C. wrote:

> Nobody will care? Nobody? None at all?

The few individuals that will care certainly do not compare to the vast
majority of that won't care. Of course there is an exception to most rules.

> I received a LOT of nice notes from people on this NG.

That's great, good for you.

> People care a lot more than YOU give them credit for. Dom, not everyone
> has the "It's only about me" entitlement mentality. There's a lot of good
> people on AOLS.

Yes, and it's alt.os.linux.slackware not alt.my.personal.life.story

> A lot of them. I only hope you never have to find out how
> many.

Yeah, I tend not to confuse technical news groups for shrink sessions.

Dominik L.. Borkowski wrote:


> Yeah, I tend not to confuse technical news groups for shrink sessions.

Sounds like someone from Virginia Tech. I went to U.Va.(and W & M after that)
so I understand the educational culture you are in (or from). Son, life is
not binary. Get out of Blacksburg and learn about the non-academic "real
world" a bit.... and you'll find that technology has a human face behind it.

If you ever get a job that you can be fired from as opposed to a government
academic 'appointment for life' you will understand more of the above.
Indeed, if anyone needed a "shrink session" these days it's the current crop
of engineering graduates who come into the world with zero social skills, no
social conscience, and an entitlement mentality.


ANC

Al C. wrote:

> Dominik L.. Borkowski wrote:
>
>
>> Yeah, I tend not to confuse technical news groups for shrink sessions.
>
> Sounds like someone from Virginia Tech. I went to U.Va.(and W & M after
> that)
> so I understand the educational culture you are in (or from). Son, life
> is not binary. Get out of Blacksburg and learn about the non-academic
> "real world" a bit.... and you'll find that technology has a human face
> behind it.
>
> If you ever get a job that you can be fired from as opposed to a
> government academic 'appointment for life' you will understand more of the
> above. Indeed, if anyone needed a "shrink session" these days it's the
> current crop of engineering graduates who come into the world with zero
> social skills, no social conscience, and an entitlement mentality.

Yes, sounds like somebody without a clue. Great, you can figure out who I
'WORK' for, not where I went to. Gee whiz, how about a cookie for your
effort on figuring out where I've worked before, how much of real world
experience I have. In fact, kudos to you for being able to infer so much
from a simple e-mail address. However, I'm talking to the person who feels
that five paragraphs of his personal life affects the outcome of a
discussion on a technical news group. That's why you get a cookie: for
thinking you can insult me by implying that you went to UVA.

> Al C. wrote:

>> If you ever get a job that you can be fired from as opposed to a
>> government academic 'appointment for life' you will understand more of the
>> above. Indeed, if anyone needed a "shrink session" these days it's the
>> current crop of engineering graduates who come into the world with zero
>> social skills, no social conscience, and an entitlement mentality.


> Dominik L.. Borkowski wrote:

> Yes, sounds like somebody without a clue. Great, you can figure out who I
> 'WORK' for, not where I went to. Gee whiz, how about a cookie for your
> effort on figuring out where I've worked before, how much of real world
> experience I have. In fact, kudos to you for being able to infer so much
> from a simple e-mail address. However, I'm talking to the person who feels
> that five paragraphs of his personal life affects the outcome of a
> discussion on a technical news group. That's why you get a cookie: for
> thinking you can insult me by implying that you went to UVA.


What did I say? "...zero social skills, no social conscience, and an
entitlement mentality."

Did you prove me right or what? This is just too easy.

And BTW, I didn't "imply" that I went to U.Va. I said it directly... because I
did attend there. Class of 1969... you can look it up.

Let's not fight. Not worth it. VPI (if it's still called that) is a great
engineering school located in what has become a really nice town. I lived
about 2 hours north-west of Blacksburg ... as described in this piece:
http://www.adams-blake.com/item.php?...estyle=default

ANC

Al C. wrote:

> What did I say? "...zeroseparateskills, no social conscience, and an
> entitlement mentality."
>
> Did you prove me right or what? This is just too easy.

> Let's not fight. Not worth it.

First you try to insult me again and then you say "let's not fight"? How
about no? My social skills are just fine, even if I happen to act like a
jerk to you right now. That doesn't change my social skills, in fact, I'm
greatly exercising them. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just
maybe, you lack social skills by not knowing how to behave in a technical
newsgroup? Then again, I'm sure you'll again whine about your personal life
and list your accomplishments, like you've done in the past?

Face it. You still need to learn how to separate your personal life from the
purely technical conversations on the net. Right before I started in this
thread, I wrote a page of notes regarding your cups problem. In
retrospective, it was a waste of time; however, I won't go around whine
about what happened to my spouse and how much more of a man it makes me,
thus your argument must be wrong.

> VPI (if it's still called that) is a great
> engineering school located in what has become a really nice town. I lived
> about 2 hours north-west of Blacksburg ... as described in this piece:
> http://www.adams-blake.com/item.php?...estyle=default

That's great. Yet again has nothing to do with anything. Running out things
to say on topic, again?

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> That's great. Yet again has nothing to do with anything. Running out things
> to say on topic, again?

Yeah, and you're just encouraging him....

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