Not necessarily Slackware specific, but I am having a problem viewing
messages with pine.
I set up a collection list for my POP mail, and the only folders that are
displayed are the drafts, sent, spam, and trash. I cannot access the
Inbox messages. The collection list path is set to the INBOX, but no
messages are displayed. I can navigate to the above-mentioned folders and
view their messages, however.
Any help or suggestions?

Dave Miller <dmiller@x7i0.net> says:

>Not necessarily Slackware specific, but I am having a problem
>viewing messages with pine. I set up a collection list for my POP
>mail, and the only folders that are displayed are the drafts, sent,
>spam, and trash. I cannot access the Inbox messages. The
>collection list path is set to the INBOX, but no messages are
>displayed. I can navigate to the above-mentioned folders and view
>their messages, however. Any help or suggestions?

Given that pine won't display graphics, why would you use it for
your email? The easiest method is to setup thunderbird and use it
for pop retrieval. All of your messages, from multiple pop-servers,
can be downloaded to the same inbox, or a different inbox, as your
taste demands.

This is not meant to be a flame. We are just pointing out the
versatility of modern gui newsreaders, in case you weren't aware of
it. Thunderbird was unbearable as recently as a year ago, but it is
the most solid, attractive, and easy to use and configure newsreader
around. It will do anything pine will do, and a whole lot more
besides.

cordially, as always,

rm

Roger Maynard wrote:
> Dave Miller <dmiller@x7i0.net> says:
>> Not necessarily Slackware specific, but I am having a problem
>> viewing messages with pine. I set up a collection list for my POP
>> mail, and the only folders that are displayed are the drafts, sent,
>> spam, and trash. I cannot access the Inbox messages. The
>> collection list path is set to the INBOX, but no messages are
>> displayed. I can navigate to the above-mentioned folders and view
>> their messages, however. Any help or suggestions?

Here's what my settings look like.
- M S C (main setup config)
- inbox-path = {<server url>/ssl/user=<username>}inbox
- incoming-archive-folders = Inbox.
- M S L (main setup lists)
- Server = <server url>/ssl/user=<username>
- Path = Inbox.
Maybe that helps?


Roger Maynard wrote:
> Given that pine won't display graphics, why would you use it for
> your email?

I see that as a security feature. Because of this
- people can't use http image hits to track my mail receipt
- I don't have to view junk images

> Thunderbird was unbearable as recently as a year ago, but it is
> the most solid, attractive, and easy to use and configure newsreader
> It will do anything pine will do, and a whole lot more besides
> besides.

Pine is still a useful mail reader.

For usenet, Tbird and Pan are both good. For email, Pine is in some
ways superior. Can Tbird store my addressbook and configuration
settings on an IMAP server? Does Tbird have nice keyboard shortcuts
for "show only messages containing 'tomato' in the subject line" (Pine
commands: "; t s tomato z").

Peace,
Daniel

D Herring <dherring@at.tentpost.dot.com> says:
>Gary Cooper wrote:

>Roger Maynard wrote:

Sorry, dude. But that wasn't Roger Manyard. Nor was it Guy Macon,
acting like Roger Manyard. It was us.

>> Given that pine won't display graphics, why would you use it for
>> your email?

>I see that as a security feature. Because of this - people can't
>use http image hits to track my mail receipt - I don't have to view
>junk images

Oh, so you're paranoid? You'll find plenty of company here. But
keep in mind that a "http image hit" does not in any way prove that
you, or anyone else, actually read the message. Furthermore, lots
of the messages including graphics are not junk.

We believe that you're a small man who took a long time to learn his
CLI programs and now that he thinks he knows them, he is loathe to
try anything else. You're like that guy who insisted on riding
horses downtown in the 1920's. You're the guy who kept the
gaslights going because you didn't trust that newfangled
"electricity" stuff. You'll only smoke your own dope, even though
it doesn't get anybody high. Still watching those Beverly
Hillbillies reruns?

But you have every right to be who you wish to be.

cordially, as always,

rm

GUI apps are great, I have nothing against them, but at work, I can only
access my home computer using ssh through a text terminal.

> Given that pine won't display graphics, why would you use it for
> your email? The easiest method is to setup thunderbird and use it
> for pop retrieval. All of your messages, from multiple pop-servers,
> can be downloaded to the same inbox, or a different inbox, as your
> taste demands.
>
> This is not meant to be a flame. We are just pointing out the
> versatility of modern gui newsreaders, in case you weren't aware of
> it. Thunderbird was unbearable as recently as a year ago, but it is
> the most solid, attractive, and easy to use and configure newsreader
> around. It will do anything pine will do, and a whole lot more
> besides.

My setup looks just like yours. But, like I said, the Inbox messages do
not display (only the trash, spam, sent, and draft folders are displayed).
For now, I am just using fetchmail to retreive them...they
atleast show up in my main message index.

Thanks for atleast verifying that I set it up correctly.


On Sun, 5 Aug 2007, D Herring wrote:

> Here's what my settings look like.
> - M S C (main setup config)
> - inbox-path = {<server url>/ssl/user=<username>}inbox
> - incoming-archive-folders = Inbox.
> - M S L (main setup lists)
> - Server = <server url>/ssl/user=<username>
> - Path = Inbox.
> Maybe that helps?

On 2007-08-05, Dave Miller <dmiller@x7i0.net> wrote:
> Not necessarily Slackware specific, but I am having a problem viewing
> messages with pine.
> I set up a collection list for my POP mail, and the only folders that are
> displayed are the drafts, sent, spam, and trash. I cannot access the
> Inbox messages. The collection list path is set to the INBOX, but no
> messages are displayed. I can navigate to the above-mentioned folders and
> view their messages, however.
> Any help or suggestions?

I use Pine exclusively on my system via a DSL account at home. Check the
settings in the agent used to fetch the mail, such as fetchmail or getpop3,
etc., if using such. Fetchmail has many settings, for example. Are any other
filtering programs used, such as mailfilter or procmail?

Also are the permissions set correctly for the file Inbox? If your mail
fetching agent deletes the emails from the mail server, do a check to see if
the emails were deleted on that server, signifying reception in your
computer.

....Edwin
--
__________________________________________________ __________
"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to
return."-da Vinci http://bellsouthpwp2.net/e/d/edwinljohnson

There is a Pine successor in the works named Alpine, with many new features
(like utf-8 support). Best MUA just got a lot better.

On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:54:48 -0400,
D Herring <dherring@at.tentpost.dot.com> wrote:
> Roger Maynard wrote:
>> Dave Miller <dmiller@x7i0.net> says:
>>> Not necessarily Slackware specific, but I am having a problem
>>> viewing messages with pine. I set up a collection list for my POP
>>> mail, and the only folders that are displayed are the drafts, sent,
>>> spam, and trash. I cannot access the Inbox messages. The
>>> collection list path is set to the INBOX, but no messages are
>>> displayed. I can navigate to the above-mentioned folders and view
>>> their messages, however. Any help or suggestions?
>
> Here's what my settings look like.
> - M S C (main setup config)
> - inbox-path = {<server url>/ssl/user=<username>}inbox
> - incoming-archive-folders = Inbox.
> - M S L (main setup lists)
> - Server = <server url>/ssl/user=<username>
> - Path = Inbox.
> Maybe that helps?


I have PINE configured to access /var/spool/mail/theo as my
primary inbox using imap. The only way I could find to add pop3
accounts was to edit ~/.pinerc directly. Here is how mine are
configured:


# List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox
# Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path
incoming-folders=ted {linus.heise.nu:143/user=ted},
Insight {mail.insightbb.com/pop3/user=t.heise},
netINS {pop3.netins.net/pop3/user=theise}


Hope that helps.

--
Theodore (Ted) Heise <theo@heise.nu> Bloomington, IN, USA